Type-25 Rapid Assault Vehicle: Brutes are in!

  • UPDATE -
    With the following Achievement, Brutes have been indirectly confirmed!

Chief, Smash!
In Mission 8, kill 3 Crawlers in one hit with the Gravity Hammer.

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A Gravity Hammer in the Campaign is all but 100% confirmation of the presence of Brutes in Halo 4, which gives them a good chance of returning with the ever beloved Chopper and the fan-favourites, the Brute Shot, and it’s little brother; the Spiker Rifle!

  • ORIGINAL THREAD -
    What drives like a dream, and turns on a dime?

What drives through all terrain, and makes great time?

What fires 35mm rounds, and after taking a rocket, will always start?

What cannot flip, and rips people and vehicles apart?

Can you guess…? It’s the Chopper!

I’d just like to express my fondness for this particular vehicle, and hope that it will return to Halo 4’s Multiplayer Matchmaking/Infinity (along with the Brute Shot and Gravity Hammer, naturally) in a form that does it justice. Anyone who could give evidence of it’s presence will have a special place in my liver, anyone who can prove it’s absence will have my thanks for bringing me closure.

I like it but I doubt it will be there.

Brutes haven’t shown up in anything so far. While I’m very fond of the chopper too, I’m pretty skeptical that it’ll be in Halo 4.

> Brutes haven’t shown up in anything so far. While I’m very fond of the chopper too, I’m pretty skeptical that it’ll be in Halo 4.

While Brutes would be an unlikely enemy for us to encounter in Halo 4, I don’t see why we couldn’t be enjoying the fruits of their existence. They for instance, did replace the Brute Shot in Halo: Reach with an Elite counterpart, albeit it didn’t do the weapon justice IMHO.

My point being, the Chopper has such unique and interesting gameplay designed around it. It would be a shame to throw that all away just because the Brutes won’t be piloting it anymore.

> > Brutes haven’t shown up in anything so far. While I’m very fond of the chopper too, I’m pretty skeptical that it’ll be in Halo 4.
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> While Brutes would be an unlikely enemy for us to encounter in Halo 4, I don’t see why we couldn’t be enjoying the fruits of their existence. They for instance, did replace the Brute Shot in Halo: Reach with an Elite counterpart, albeit it didn’t do the weapon justice IMHO.
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> My point being, the Chopper has such unique and interesting gameplay designed around it. It would be a shame to throw that all away just because the Brutes won’t be piloting it anymore.

you’re not saying that you want elites driving them are you?
because that would never happen

if they made something similar…
but the thing is, Covenant-pure vehicles don’t really use wheels, or Explosive or ballistic weapons all that much, so i don’t see how it could be recreated with a more pure-covenant taste

> > Brutes haven’t shown up in anything so far. While I’m very fond of the chopper too, I’m pretty skeptical that it’ll be in Halo 4.
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> While Brutes would be an unlikely enemy for us to encounter in Halo 4, I don’t see why we couldn’t be enjoying the fruits of their existence. They for instance, did replace the Brute Shot in Halo: Reach with an Elite counterpart, albeit it didn’t do the weapon justice IMHO.
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> My point being, the Chopper has such unique and interesting gameplay designed around it. It would be a shame to throw that all away just because the Brutes won’t be piloting it anymore.

With the exception the golf club, no halo game has added extra weapons or vehicles to MP that have no relevance to the story.

No brutes = No brute weapons/vehicles

> > > Brutes haven’t shown up in anything so far. While I’m very fond of the chopper too, I’m pretty skeptical that it’ll be in Halo 4.
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> > While Brutes would be an unlikely enemy for us to encounter in Halo 4, I don’t see why we couldn’t be enjoying the fruits of their existence. They for instance, did replace the Brute Shot in Halo: Reach with an Elite counterpart, albeit it didn’t do the weapon justice IMHO.
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> > My point being, the Chopper has such unique and interesting gameplay designed around it. It would be a shame to throw that all away just because the Brutes won’t be piloting it anymore.
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> With the exception the golf club, no halo game has added extra weapons or vehicles to MP that have no relevance to the story.
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> No brutes = No brute weapons/vehicles

Two words for you: Halo PC. There were both Rocket Warthogs and Flamethrowers available in multiplayer.

Anyway, all I’m hoping for is a Promethean equivalent that acts at least somewhat similar to the Chopper.

> > > > Brutes haven’t shown up in anything so far. While I’m very fond of the chopper too, I’m pretty skeptical that it’ll be in Halo 4.
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> > > While Brutes would be an unlikely enemy for us to encounter in Halo 4, I don’t see why we couldn’t be enjoying the fruits of their existence. They for instance, did replace the Brute Shot in Halo: Reach with an Elite counterpart, albeit it didn’t do the weapon justice IMHO.
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> > > My point being, the Chopper has such unique and interesting gameplay designed around it. It would be a shame to throw that all away just because the Brutes won’t be piloting it anymore.
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> > With the exception the golf club, no halo game has added extra weapons or vehicles to MP that have no relevance to the story.
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> > No brutes = No brute weapons/vehicles
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> Two words for you: Halo PC. There were both Rocket Warthogs and Flamethrowers available in multiplayer.
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> Anyway, all I’m hoping for is a Promethean equivalent that acts at least somewhat similar to the Chopper.

erm…technically PC is two words…

> My point being, the Chopper has such unique and interesting gameplay designed around it. It would be a shame to throw that all away just because the Brutes won’t be piloting it anymore.

Oh, so… Promethean Chopper? That’d be awesome. I’d go for that, yeah.

> > > Brutes haven’t shown up in anything so far. While I’m very fond of the chopper too, I’m pretty skeptical that it’ll be in Halo 4.
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> > While Brutes would be an unlikely enemy for us to encounter in Halo 4, I don’t see why we couldn’t be enjoying the fruits of their existence. They for instance, did replace the Brute Shot in Halo: Reach with an Elite counterpart, albeit it didn’t do the weapon justice IMHO.
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> > My point being, the Chopper has such unique and interesting gameplay designed around it. It would be a shame to throw that all away just because the Brutes won’t be piloting it anymore.
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> you’re not saying that you want elites driving them are you?
> because that would never happen
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> if they made something similar…
> but the thing is, Covenant-pure vehicles don’t really use wheels, or Explosive or ballistic weapons all that much, so i don’t see how it could be recreated with a more pure-covenant taste

Well, I’m not saying they shouldn’t re-design it’s appearance or anything. As long as the mechanics are the same I’m cool with whatever.

And just to clarify, the Covenant are quite fond of explosive weaponry, and they have their fair share of unconventional ballistic weaponry as well. As for the wheels in the front, I’m sure that they could be re-designed into a bigger gravity-whatever than the one of the back. Then they’ll just cover the whole thing in a purple or dark-blue carapace, make the shots green and we’re cool.

Though if they wanted to keep it closer to the old visual design they could just clean up the scratches, fuel up the cannons with Hardlight, refer to it as a Promethean vehicle and announce the Chopper’s return to the cheering crowds beneath the balcony of their palace.

Brute tech could easily return and not conflict with the War games cannon. War games is a simulation designed for training purposes. Brutes still exist in the Halo universe and the prospect of the UNSC encountering Brute is still a possibility. The prospect that it may be a hostile encounter is also still a possibility. It would make sense to train for such an encounter. The question is whether or not 343 will bother if they are not including Brutes in campaign. Saying that there has been no confirmation either way yet. Little has been revealed yet about the background of the Storm covenant yet so we can only speculate. All we know about this Rogue group is that they are not upholding the Human Covenant truss. + I don’t think the Griffball community would be all too happy if the Hammer doesn’t come back- even if the golf club returns.

Around the middle of the third paragraph of the section called “Fall of the Covenant Empire” it says:

> Despite the hatred for Jiralhane the Sangheili employed Jiralhane who stayed at the Sangheili’s side.

This might suggest that some of the renegade Brutes may or may not serve under the renegade Covenant forces on Requiem, which may or may not indicate that it is possible that there is a sliver of Brute tech on said planet, which again would mean that it might be probable for the Chopper to return (along with the Gravity Hammer and the Brute Shot) to Halo 4’s MP-MM/ Infinity!

What do you mean I’m “grasping at straws”?!

I love the Chopper, it was one of my favorite H3 vehicles. Too bad… I doubt it will make a comeback.

Wohoo! With yesterday’s bulletin we have a great chance of getting the Chopper back!

There’s no reason for the Gravity Hammer to return in the Campaign other than the fact that there are Brutes present to wield them. Brutes wouldn’t only use Gravity Hammers, so there may be Brute Shots and Brute Plasma Rifles. Brutes need something to drive as well, so that gives the Brute Chopper a chance. :slight_smile:

the bulletin has shown that the hammer is back with the chief smash achievement so we could see some more brute stuff but its entirely possible that you can get the gravity hammer through different means than killing brutes since these “storm” covenant are a splinter faction of the the covenant they could be salvaging any weapon they can get their hands on including brute weapons we could see elites bringing hammers to the fight as well as brute shots while this seems silly remember these elites are NOT the same elites we have fought in the past they are even more devoted to the forerunner religion than any other elite so far meaning they are more likly to throw away pride and honor to please their gods

im not saying that brutes cant be in the game at all but try not to get super hyped which could end in disappointment

now that i said that i will also say id love to see the chopper twas the best covie vehicle in my opinion

Just because the hammer is still in doesn’t mean that Brutes are confirmed. If I want any old vehicle to return I’d want the Spectre from Halo 2

The chopper was freaking awesome in Halo 3, I’d love to see it come back.

This here is me explaining every reason why the Brutes might be in H4 and every reason they might NOT be in H4, along with predictions of what might happen.

you should really change the title. It’s pretty misleading. Because this is still speculation, not confirmation, and just because the hammer, and perhaps brutes have been confirmed that doesnt mean the chopper is too. Halo 3/ODST were the only games to have the chopper.