I think their reasoning for smaller maps was to cater to the Pro audience of Halo. Smaller maps and practically no radar (Most good players I know prefer not to have radars, so maybe that’s why it got nerfed) forces engagements to happen, for better or worse. I certainly have “loved” playing Swat on Truth just to be spawned killed 8 times in a row because the map is so small. It is frustrating and I think spawns need to be better on Swat (I saw a video where someone got a Killpocalypse spawn killing people in Swat).
On the other hand, for now, arena has focused on smaller group engagements and so I believe smaller maps are appropriate. Warzone, and the new Big Team Battle coming out, focus on large group engagement with vehicles and the maps are much larger with more open sight lines. I played a lot of Halo 4 and my feelings about that game was that it was a ranged game. There were a ton of big maps with open sightlines, and for the longest time DMRs ruled the day because of it. I’m glad that we finally have a distinction between the two and have small maps and large maps.
On a final note, I do feel Radar needs to be improved to promote map awareness. Right now it is horrible. And small maps are great, but the spawns need to be better so you don’t get spawn killed.
Just my opinion though.
From what I’ve seen of Arena it seems the maps are smaller horizontally but have more versatility vertically. Now instead of relying on man cannons and other things to get to a higher point on the map we can just climb or jump to new vantage points. I do feel the maps are a little small but that’s because the other maps used to be so large in previous games you could go almost a whole minute without running into another player. Maybe they want to see how the community does with more “fast paced” game types? And on the issue of the radar I have no problem with it. In Warzone (especially on Apex 7) the match usually devolves to mid and long range fighting anyway so the radar only helps when your trying to defend a base (and as far as I’ve seen, the 18m range pretty much covers the whole base.)
Remove Sprint, up the Movement speed to 100% and there you go… a very good halo with good but not outstanding maps. Increase Radar to 25 in a social list, remove it completely in an hardcore playlist.
I probably got killed 95 % by players who are worse than me, but just had the luck to spawn or stumble upon me from behind, which I couldn’t see on radar. Gone are the days where I could test my skill against another player on a fair duel. It’s sad.
The only reason MLG players hated expanded Radar was because it gave the above averages a fighting chance against them and they hated that. Now I do hate campers too which it does seem like there are less of them so far but it might be just because they haven’t figure out the good places yet to set up their tents.
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> Remove Sprint, up the Movement speed to 100% and there you go… a very good halo with good but not outstanding maps. Increase Radar to 25 in a social list, remove it completely in an hardcore playlist.
To be completely honest I prefer no radar instead of 18m.
OP was heading in the right direction but then he lost it.
The maps are bigger. Don’t tell me that you think maps like rig and plaza are the same size as maps like lockout, ivory tower, warlock, chill out, guardian, etc. I mean look how much more stretched out regret is compared to midship.
No, good players prefer no radar because it adheres to realistic battle dynamics. You can’t flank people with radar. In addition, situation awareness and knowledge of firing angles should determine a successful engagement, not random luck from grenade tosses towards someone’s radar signature.
You have ~500 arena kills with not much less deaths. The majority of your time you have played Warzone, where you have ~13k kills. If “get gud” is you answer, then your Arena playtime should be much higher.
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> Maybe the radar would not be as bad if it functioned at its advertised 18m. See here for explanation.
Wrong, my Arena KDA is 3.0. Glad you took the time to look me up though, even if you misrepresented the facts. Regardless, my KD is irrelevant to the conversation at hand. Plain and simple, good players want no radar, bad players prefer radar. I’ll leave it to you to figure out which one you are lol.
To the OP, yes the design choice is odd. Some say the maps are not smaller, and while that might be true, they sure feel and play alot smaller. Part of the reason for that is because most the maps are utter garbage with terrible sight lines and cramped spaces. A great example is the Rig; it is an atrocious map shortly followed by regret and plaza.
As already stated, the short radar makes the situation even worse especially when considering how much the automatics got buffed. Most players including me don’t want to play all Arena matches as it is slayer pro or MLG. Also, I mostly play solo, and the current game mechanics make it extremely undesirable to play Arena without a team/party.
Nystic brings up a good suggestion. The radar should be restored to its previous incarnations and an MLG/No Radar playlist should be added like it has existed in previous games. Too bad 343 has the memory of a toddler.
Maybe the radar would not be as bad if it functioned at its advertised 18m. See here for explanation.
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I’m not playing Arena because my mic isn’t working, and hasn’t been since the game launched. I’m not even bothering to look you up because I already know you’re bad because you want radar.
Once again, how much time I play Arena is irrelevant to my skill at shooters.
How old are you?!? I feel like I’m having a discussion with a teenager lol. I’ll ignore you from now on unless you manage to put together a logical train of thought.
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Last I checked 484/418 ≠ 3.5, unless you play on multiple accounts. This account has no record of playing Halo 2, 3 or MCC. Also, you are SR93 in H5, maybe its time to take a washroom break?
As far as your radar generalization goes, if you want Halo to completely die out then be my guest. Remove radar and only the gamebattles and MLG players will be left; the game will be a ghost town, as if it’s not becoming one already.
Having no radar (or broken radar) is only rewarding when facing absolutely clueless players or when playing with a full team who has the advantage of communication. The games fast pace gameplay and narrow fov make it extremely difficult for anyone playing solo. It devolves the game to “who shot first wins.”
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> How old are you?!? I feel like I’m having a discussion with a teenager lol. I’ll ignore you from now on unless you manage to put together a logical train of thought.
Nice subtle edit of your previous post where you conveniently changed “K/D” to KDA.
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> Wrong, my Arena KD is 3.0. Glad you took the time to look me up though, even if you misrepresented the facts. Regardless, my KD is irrelevant to the conversation at hand. Plain and simple, good players want no radar, bad players prefer radar. I’ll leave it to you to figure out which one you are lol.
Are you serious dude? From your overall arena stats on halo 5, you have a 1.16 KD, as shown here. How about you don’t try to defend yourself through lies so that I don’t have to question your credibility, especially while you claim to have an engineering and law degree?
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Yeah, it’s like he only hears what he wants to hear, much alike feminists and SJW’s. The only cohesive argument he can construct is for 90% of the player base to “git gud.” As it stands right now, it seems as he is not practicing what he is preaching and belongs to that 90%.