XIM-APEX gives you “AIM-ASSIST” on the kb / mouse.
In my experience using it, my accuracy without XIM is 40% -45% in KB / MOUSE and with XIM it is 50% -55% using kb / mouse.
I would not use the XIM-APEX if 343 reduced the power to the Aim-assist 5% I have no problems with my 40% / 45% accuracy facing controller users with 45% / 50% but today even “Low-Platinum players” using control reach 55% even 60% accuracy because the lolAA this is unacceptable
There is the data on Reddit, proving the big “cap on accuracy” between both methods
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Solution here is separate pc and console players. Period.
I have run into more cheaters in 3 weeks of halo than I have in 17 years of playing console players.
A hard pill for you to swallow here is the fact aim assist is the lowest it’s ever been for console players and the PC crowed keeps crying.
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In my case I only use the XIM-APEX in quickplay / open crossplay to “match” the precision of the “controller users” as I said before, with the XIM I have 50% -55% accuracy
But there are people who will use it in “Controller-only” even xboxers who don’t like to use gamepad will use the XIM there in apex, fornite, overwatch and CoD-Warzone is infested with players using kb / mouse with aim-assist
If they lower the power to aim-assist 5% “There would be no reason to use XIM” for users like me who seek equality between the two methods. Although there would be people who would continue to use it because they simply do not like to play with control
Frankly, they do need to be separated. PC should only play with PC and console should only play with Console.
The only exception to this is crossplay lobbies where a PC player is playing with a controller against console players ALSO using controllers. Or consoles playing with M/KB against PC using the M/KB.
If you’re caught In a crossplay lobby using a different input method than the other players, you should be immediately banned. Using a M/KB, which is leagues more precise, in a controller lobby is akin to cheating. No exceptions.
In no uncertain terms, M/KB will ALWAYS have the upper hand over controllers and playing any kind of match with someone who is basically cheating will always feel terrible.
I do not EVER want to play against someone using M/KB because I know I’ll always lose. I’ll get depressed that I can’t have fun in this game and never come back which is exactly the thing 343I doesn’t want to happen. They want me here for as long as humanly possible and I want to play for as long as humanly possible so the only course of action is to never put me against M/KB.
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The aim assist is already so low in this game compared to previous titles (except maybe the BR) that it’s already barely playable for my casual friends. Lowering it even more simply for the sake of trying to appease M/KB players would be absolutely ludicrous.
In fact, I’d say that the current amount of aim assist is already unreasonably low on most weapons. Consider that most players don’t even care about ranked multiplayer in the first place, and mostly just want to play campaign/firefight and maybe the occasional quick play or custom games.
Further ruining their experience for the sake of “balanced” cross-play doesn’t make any sense because it will never be balanced regardless of how it’s tuned. They’re fundamentally different input methods that shouldn’t be forced together in the first place. They need to just be separate by default, and allow people to opt-in if they want to.
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You just need to get good mate
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Removing cross play should be a PLAYER CHOICE - not a forced solution.
I don’t mind playing against controller/aimassisted - It just forces me to try harder and get better.
But yes, I have noticed some “a keyboard cant do that” moments as well, which means there are advantages to controller as well - not just ‘downsides’. (melee comes to mind, with its incredible aim assist lock on)
and cheaters - run on consoles too, and with consoles being more and more PC like every generation - your about to wake up to find even more cheaters on consoles. The solution isn’t “not my problem, keep them away” - it is finding ways to prevent cheats and exploits for all.
Yes, halo’s AIM-ASSIST is not as powerful as apex / CoD so I only suggest reducing its power by 5% with that it would “normalize” kb / mouse vs controller and nobody would use the XIM-APEX there would be no need.
The aim-assist of apex / cod is an “aim-bot” that is not an aim-assist the one of CoD vanguard has 40% of power that is already a “Hack-legal” and in APEX it has 35%
In HALO-INFINITE the AA has about 30% in terms of potency
With the XIM-APEX I have only gained 10% accuracy using AA in the kb / mouse because even so I have to continue doing the “manual movements” and but with the control my accuracy is 55% -60% without “try-harding”
This is also why we need anti-cheat stuff in the game because if I understand what you are talking about, you are straight up cheating.
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Except controller is a better control scheme because of how strong aim assist/magnetism is, with 20% higher accuracy on average. Mouse is actually at a huge disadvantage right now. And console vs pc seperation already exists for where it matters, in competitive.
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It’s controversial
Basically controller users can have “Free” 30% -35% extra accuracy for aim-assist only because they play using that input and do they deserve to dominate the competitive?
If somebody wants to play kb / mouse then I have to “eat a handicap of 10% -15%” in accuracy, stand idly by and say nah HALO players dominate in control
No, competitive players like “Me” are going to cut those gaps that devs don’t want to fix. It is only giving me 10% accuracy and “with that I even things out” and my 1 vs 1 vs controller players i can “kill” them as fast as they do to me
LoL Lower aim assist? are you comparing it with fighting games?
The aim assist is not as bad as Halo 3, but the solution is not to separate PC from consoles the solution is to lower it to make the aim even for both sides… you know, actually AIM in a shooter.
You guys complain with the “all day hackers” that are in every match (i havent find any) but the MnK player have to play against “legal hackers” that got the aim assisted by the game itself and got easy “perfect” with the BR
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There are numerous games where keyboard and mouse and controller players have existed with no issues in the past. I.E. Battlefield, and even the most recent Modern Warfare (Didnt play coldwar)
I can tell you that coming from me, someone who has played MCC for the past 6 months on MnK, that Halo Infinite puts you at an extreme disadvantage when compared to controller. I have never been one to blame input devices, not on COD, not on Battlefield, not on Overwatch, not on ANY of the Halos in MCC (Which is predominantly controller, I believed it was fairly even IMO) not on Destiny 2, not on Apex. There have always been pros and cons across tons of games. That will always be the case, but I do not believe any one of those games had such a disproportionate advantage skewed towards either input device.
I won’t go as far as to give myself “artificially” apply a fix to my PC. To me, that genuinely should be considered cheating. I have been using controller now lately. I am winning more 1v1s, both in custom game 1v1s, and my single engagements in Onyx crossplay lobbys. I genuinely hope there is some fix for MnK in the future, without totally ripping controller to shreds, because in my experience, they can exist together. Plus, they already have them seperated in the solo queue playlist, so the separation argument is void.
TLDR: There is something wrong with MnK that puts you at an extreme disadvantage that just isn’t present in the other shooters I have played. I don’t want this to start an input war per se, I just want to see changes that are good fro both sides of the spectrum.
You might want to re-read what I wrote. I did not reference a fighting game.
I’ve never played PC shooters. So I honestly don’t know your issues. But nerfing controllers is not really viable. It’s already a pain in the -Yoink!- with some guns and it will makeup even harder for newbies causing large skill gaps.
At the very least they should buff PC players with some aim assist.
Did you just admit to cheating? Really man?
Another reason to separate MKB from controller players.