Trying to be optimistic but

Reach sucked -Yoink- and you guys decided that you would include more gimmicks like Reach to cater to the casual players who will play the game for a month or two before the next instant gratification shooter comes out. Forerunner vision? Jetpacks return? Randomly spawning weapons? Instant respawn system?

Congratulations on showing you know nothing about what made Halo great and why Reach was terrible and was pretty much dying until you added the TU/ZB which pretty much brought back the people you are again alienating with this information about Halo 4.

I can only guess for most of you that have worked on Halo since CE that CE and H2 were where you got lucky, where you needed to have a core success or the game would flop. Now Halo is a big name, you think people are guaranteed to buy it and you can take risks…well that’s not how it is. If these new features are true, I will not be buying Halo 4, or 5 or 6 for that matter if this is the direction you wish to take the franchise. Halo 4 needed to return to the core Halo gameplay of everyone being equal, the best player winning, etc. Instead you have taken it upon yourself to add even more random crap into the game to move it even further away from the starting point of Halo.

Good job, and I hope you are pleased with yourselves.

To be perfectly honest, I am very optimistic about the “classic” gameplay. But if I am limited to one -Yoinking!- playlist because everything else has wall hacks, I won’t even bother.

My brother, My sisters, people who I’ve fought along side, and killed. I first wanna say that I’m proud of each and everyone of you, for I couldn’t have asked for a better class of people.

However with recent things, there have been murmurs of discontent

However dear friends, I would like to point a finger at Halo:Reach, not so much the game-play, its trash. But the verity of said game-play.

3 shot pistols, bloom, zero bloom, TU, no TU, Classic, TU, and Reach. I would have the hope that any major changes to the core of Halo 4’s gameplay, over say, the core of Halo 2 and 3, would be completely optional. 343 has shown that they are willing to go the extra mile for the community, if they have things they think would be fun, let them put them in the sandbox, but don’t force us to play with them.

I have faith in 343, and believe they will make the right choice, if not god help them.

Just look at Mass Effect 3 for fan outcry, don’t make the same mistakes and betray your game, and your community.

> My brother, My sisters, people who I’ve fought along side, and killed. I first wanna say that I’m proud of each and everyone of you, for I couldn’t have asked for a better class of people.
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> However with recent things, there have been murmurs of discontent
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> However dear friends, I would like to point a finger at Halo:Reach, not so much the game-play, its trash. But the verity of said game-play.
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> 3 shot pistols, bloom, zero bloom, TU, no TU, Classic, TU, and Reach. I would have the hope that any major changes to the core of Halo 4’s gameplay, over say, the core of Halo 2 and 3, would be completely optional. 343 has shown that they are willing to go the extra mile for the community, if they have things they think would be fun, let them put them in the sandbox, but don’t force us to play with them.
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> I have faith in 343, and believe they will make the right choice, if not god help them.
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> Just look at Mass Effect 3 for fan outcry, don’t make the same mistakes and betray your game, and your community.

I do appreciate that they are trying to please everyone, but Reach is a -Yoink- of gametypes.

> > My brother, My sisters, people who I’ve fought along side, and killed. I first wanna say that I’m proud of each and everyone of you, for I couldn’t have asked for a better class of people.
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> > However with recent things, there have been murmurs of discontent
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> > However dear friends, I would like to point a finger at Halo:Reach, not so much the game-play, its trash. But the verity of said game-play.
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> > 3 shot pistols, bloom, zero bloom, TU, no TU, Classic, TU, and Reach. I would have the hope that any major changes to the core of Halo 4’s gameplay, over say, the core of Halo 2 and 3, would be completely optional. 343 has shown that they are willing to go the extra mile for the community, if they have things they think would be fun, let them put them in the sandbox, but don’t force us to play with them.
> >
> > I have faith in 343, and believe they will make the right choice, if not god help them.
> >
> > Just look at Mass Effect 3 for fan outcry, don’t make the same mistakes and betray your game, and your community.
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> I do appreciate that they are trying to please everyone, but Reach is a -Yoink!- of gametypes.

Oh I agree, however as long as the core of Halo 4 is competitive, add all the BS you want, because if we can strip that away, in a competitive playlist, then there is hope. Halo Reach sucked because the core sucked.

That’s what I fear. I don’t want to be limited to 1 playlist.

> That’s what I fear. I don’t want to be limited to 1 playlist.

Let me fix that for you and hopefully point you in the proper direction.

“That’s what I fear. I don’t want to be limited to my friends list just to play custom games”

Playlists have been the one great downfall of Halo.
It’s just finally catching up to itself.
Some of you still insist on blaming everything else.

Blame matchmaking, blame the playlists, blame the way it handles a million different people with a million different opinions and forces us to feed from a limited selection of predefined settings laid out for us by people who, quite honestly are not capable of keeping up with the community that plays their game.

There is no reason why we should have to waste time in a forum asking for updates to playlists. NONE!

And the only reason, we do, is because customs is limited to friends only, instead of being given access to all of XBox Live.
I Firefight can get access to the larger pool of players available on Live, other than just a friends list. Why does customs keep getting left in the corner?

Notice pretty much every complaint everyone ever has about this game all goes back to the root cause of the entire community being forced to feed from a limited selection of playlists. NOTICE. PLEASE NOTICE!. Because until you do, Halo will continue with it’s downward spiral and the forums will continue to be filled with whiney little -Yoinks!-.

> > That’s what I fear. I don’t want to be limited to 1 playlist.
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> Let me fix that for you and hopefully point you in the proper direction.
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> “That’s what I fear. I don’t want to be limited to my friends list just to play custom games”

That too, even though the only time I play Reach anymore is for customs.

I’m trying to be optimistic, I really am. But seriously? No Elites playable or Firefight really?

The bad kids will have MLG playlist and hopefully a Bigteambattle.net playlist where they can modify to their little hearts’ content, so I don’t see the need to worry about any of this.

I was trying to tell everyone to be optimistic too…but randomly spawning weapons? X ray vision!!! Instant spawns!

There is trying to cater for the casuals, then there is forgetting about who really loves your game.

I’m really hoping they break the game into casual and ranked competitive playlists. This way they can make all the insane changes they want and throw it in casual while the ranked will get balanced classic no hand-holding halo. But yeah I don’t want to be stuck in one playlist either. Half the playlist should go to social with ridiculous changes while the other half should go to the competitive community.

The first thing I thought when I read it was “well… I’m in it for campaign anyway.” I’m sure MP will still be fun, maybe not “Halo” fun but still fun.