Trust Us™

343, consider this an open letter, among many others, that I will use to vent my discontent with the path Halo is headed. I do hope that it will reach some important ears, but I’m a realistic person. And keep in mind that this is more than just about how the game plays. It’s also about how you choose to handle it, how you choose to interact with us… and the time it takes to deliver.

Ever since the very first moment we saw the game, some of us were unsure about whether we would be able to like what we had in front of us. But most of us decided to remain silent and trust you guys. Because that’s what you wanted us to do. “It feels like Halo”. And we did it. It was mutual respect and trust. It’s something precious. Even though you decided not to give us the right to an open / public Halo 4 beta (with Microsoft to fund it too), we still trusted you, waited and bought the game.

And we were there. Like Frankie said in the most recent bulletin, Halo 4 broke sales records for the Halo franchise. All thanks to the trust you put in us. However, what about your part of the deal? The part where you have to ship a game worth being called Halo, the greatest Xbox exclusive of all time? More than just a AAA game, one of the bests out there. What happened?

I’m not talking about things that just plain don’t make sense in Halo as a game, such as customizable individual loadouts based on unlocks (featuring items far too powerful to spawn with – which could have been pointed out and prevented with a public beta), in-game power items rewards for doing good, the lack of proper matchmaking… matchups (Reach all over again, despite all the promises) and much much more. No. That’s not even what I’m talking about.

What I’m talking about is how Halo 4 was an unfinished, rushed product. I shouldn’t have to download a Title Update as I boot the game for the first time, not even a month after the game launches. I shouldn’t have to wait for another one ON TOP OF THAT, not even being sure of what it will contain, because there are just so MANY issues in the game. I shouldn’t have to wait “until next week, month, or soon” for my favorite playlist to be released. Because if I dare call it my favorite playlist, it’s because it was there in the past Halo games, and also appreciated by some people. So why is it gone now? And even if it comes back, I’m not even sure it will remain, because of this new “rotational playlist” idea. Is there even a reason for this? I’m sure it will remain unanswered like a lot of things, but you make it sound like it’s a huge… test, or beta or something. Is something bad going to happen if too many playlists are in the game at once? Is the population going to crumble because people have access to their favorite playlist at all times and have fun? Are you guys trying to build the best of the best hopper selection of all time, [not] featuring Team Snipers, also with guest appearance FFA Regicide?

It’s like you guys didn’t want us to play the Halo 4 beta before launch, because that is EXACTLY what we are playing right now. Slight problem is, we PAID the game’s full price for that. In a few days, we get to be part of your “Forge Test” playlist? I mean what is it for? We have to do more testing for you? Testing we didn’t ask to be a part of, and that will end up having little to no effect on how we enjoy the game, versus testing out stuff like if the boltshot is too strong BEFORE the game releases?

I don’t even need to say anything about the File Browser. But I’m going to. You promised us it would come back before the game even was out. Then said it would take a little while before it was up. Then kept saying that for weeks after the release. And again. And it’s still not out. Trust Us™.

The lobbies glitch up all the time too, for no reason whatsoever. In a AAA game! And not a random one! In Halo! I never thought that would be possible. We went from having the sleekest UI in almost any game combined (Halo: Reach) to it being almost rebuilt from scratch – while still using the same engine or so. Now it’s very clunky, sloppy, unresponsive and bugs all the time online… like a lot of stuff. It’s like the game was tested on LAN and under perfect online conditions here and there. We lost A LOT of options, whether it’s custom games or party details. There never was an explanation regarding the reasoning behind it, if it will ever come back, what to expect or not, when…

In fact, there hasn’t been explanations for anything. Just excuses and apologies, like the last bulletin. And that’s the saddening part here. We don’t want excuses, nor apologies. If you really feel bad and want to do something about it, don’t spend 20k characters telling us how much it’s the case, or how Halo 4 isn’t that bad. Improve the game instead. Tell us it’s going to happen. What is going to happen and when.

We keep trusting you and you guys keep procrastinating. It’s about to reach a point of no return though. It has ALREADY begun. The online population thing is no joke. Even Minecraft is ahead of Halo 4 in terms of online activity as it is. Yesterday, my friend told me “League of Legends has more twitch.tv VIEWERS than Halo 4 has online PLAYERS”. I laughed and shrugged it off as a joke. Then I looked for myself and actually felt very bad.

It’s how bad things are. And there’s a grim future ahead of Halo if you, 343, don’t change things and the decisions you make. The PR team won’t be the ones to do it for you. A new DLC won’t solve anything. Telling us “yeah, some stuff is going to happen soon, but we can’t tell you what yet” either.

We understand that the game was rushed to take sales from Treyarch’s new game. It makes a lot of sense from a business perspective, and even more when it comes to breaking records, which Frankie was so proud to remind us in the latest bulletin. But now we are paying the dear price in more than just one way. We know this game has flaws. It’s not perfect. No one is asking for perfection. But there is a lot of change for the sake of change and too little explanations. You don’t have to fill this part of Bungie’s shoes. It’s a good riddance.

Listen to us 343, and please don’t act like we haven’t been vocal, like in the last bulletin. Telling us where to contact you guys? Come on. Check the forums. Things are going downhill, no matter how much you deny it, or want to make it look like it’s not the case. If you actually take time to listen to our pleas and act based on that, this game will grow. We’ll be proud of telling people how awesome it is, and the population will go back up, slow, but it will.

But right now, things are bad. Awful. But it can change. All you have to do, is Trust Us™, the hundreds of thousands of people who bought the game and have been doing so for the past decade and who know what Halo is all about. More than you guys. Listen to our feedback, and act based on that.

Or you can ignore everything and Halo will just die a slow, agonizing death as a AAA franchise, and it will be hard on all of us.

And remember that you don’t have as much time as you may seem to think (based on the speed at which you release things). The population isn’t waiting for you out there, just like how Treyarch wasn’t waiting for you to be ready to launch their most recent game.

So start coding and programming, and keep us updated.

Do something.

This!!! +999999++

“Just wait for Halo 5.”

+1 well thought post, very true. too bad they wont read it and flamers will attempt to destroy this just for the sake of arguing.

> “Just wait for Halo 5.”

“…Just wait for Halo 6.”

+40, 000, 000.

Nothing else to say, just that this thread is excellent.

Good post.

$4$ Industries isn’t going to fix anything though. Halo is gone.

Halo Reach and Halo Reach 2, aka Crysis knock-offs, are the future of Halo sadly.

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Just wait for halo 7

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just wait for halo 8

I love the first post and agree with everything in it. <3

I agree with this 100% and couldnt have said it better myself.

I stopped playing Halo for the first time in years, because 343 destroyed the experience. There is some serious fixing to be done.

> > > +1 well thought post, very true. too bad they wont read it and flamers will attempt to destroy this just for the sake of arguing.
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Just wait for halo 9

Halo 4 was rushe dbecause they had 3years to assemble a team, figure out what they’re going to do, and then do it with a completely brand new development team. They had to take on a legacy that most would think too big for them, Frankie even says that in the bulletin.

343i knows their mistakes, but they also know their visions. This is where Halo is going, that is until another major switch in FPS happens where it could shift to something other than class-based. Thats not changing, 343i is not willingly to redo and erase everything they’ve done. Their goal was to move Halo 4 into a modern game, to pit their twist on Halo that would make it new in the series and able to compete with the top games.

Gooing back to Arena would have the full support of Halo fans. But thats it. The trend set by CoD is growing, class-based is where the population is. If Halo wants to survive, it needs to grow too. Thats why so much was changed to modernize it.

Some just can’t handle that, and that is understandable. But there are things 343i can do to make the game enjoyable for all, to make it easier to adapt to this new generation of Halo.
Halo 4’s lainchwasn’t perfect. Not by far. There are many major issues that need attention, and a lot of smaller community complaints or suggestions. Things like removing the whole Ordinance system are unreasonable, unlogical. But weapon balance, new playlists, small maps… those are what Halo 4 can chsnge and fix.

In the recent bulletin bs angel revealed 343i’s plans in general for the upcoming few weeks after the 21st. Spartan Ops returns, but a lot more does as well.
We’ve asked for small maps, community maps for a while. Halo 4’s defaults are too big. In the past developers just through in their picked community maps, regardless of community like or dislike. So now, 343i is making a playlist full of community maps that we can test and offer feedback for so 343i can work with them or cut them before being added to the full line up.

Specializations have been a cry for quite a while now. So every week 2specializations will unlock, leaving the last on eunlocked at the third week. That problem is solved.

DLC is coming with some smaller maps. We can hope smaller is smaller than the smalls of current Halo 4. More on thst will be coming.

People have complained about the communication of developer to us. So bs angel opened a new tab called News, where all announcements, bulletins, and ways to access 343i will be.

343i knows the problems, they know what to fix. We need to realize the difference between logical and reasonable complaining and unlogical complaining. They will not remove entire weapons. They will not remove loadouts. They will not take out ordinance.

And you act like 343i was a triple AAA studio, making games like Halo for years. They weren’t. You said how Reach had a great UI, and then Halo 4’s is like from scratch. It practically is.
343i isn’t Bungie. They haven’t been working together on projects like this for more than 10 years. 343i was a studio built from scratch, developers taken from all over. They learned as they went, figure out how they will try to make a game in the shadow of Bungie’s legacy. They weren’t perfect, they knew that. It was probably Microsoft more than anything making them rush through Halo 4’s development despite the struggles to build a studio.
In the general scheme, Halo 4 was an overwhelming success. But they know it can be better. And they’re working on that. The other games weren’t perfect at launch either, some as bad or worse as Halo 4. But those games became great, and Halo 4 can too. They’re taking a step in the right direction, from the last bulletin. And when they fix all that, they have time. More community maps, more gametypes, expanded customization, additional specialization tiers, etc. But they can’t roll out TUs and fixes in a snap of their fingers. Its not that easy, as some seem to think. Plus they’re being careful, making sure they don’t ruin the game more while trying to fix it.

Halo 10 is supposed to be great.

> Halo 10 is supposed to be great.

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> Halo 4 was rushe dbecause they had 3years to assemble a team, figure out what they’re going to do, and then do it with a completely brand new development team. They had to take on a legacy that most would think too big for them, Frankie even says that in the bulletin.
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> Gooing back to Arena would have the full support of Halo fans. But thats it. The trend set by CoD is growing, class-based is where the population is. If Halo wants to survive, it needs to grow too. Thats why so much was changed to modernize it.

When i read class based is where the population is, i stopped reading what you said. There is a reason this game was called halo and not COD. look at halo 3 for example and reach Mw2 and black ops were Out and Halo 3 still had 200k strong reach had a good 400k strong. This is halo we are thought to have been playing not Cod Futuristic bs with sheild as a halo fan I am so upset after 2months i have probably put down halo 4 for good. I put over 20k games into halo 3. my xbox 360 broke 4 halo 3’s games i went threw 200 dollars worth of halo game but each and every time it broke it was still worth the 60 bucks 1 to 2 years after release to go and buy that game because that Was halo. This game is not halo i hope 343 shuts me and all the people up and fixes this game and brings back Halo all we want is Halo not cod revamped.

Really? This game is ruined and we should wait for Halo 5 to come out? I remember Halo 2 which was pretty much untouchable at launch. A few TUs here and there and Halo 2 becomes widely known as the greatest Halo game to date. Halo 4 might be another Halo 2, just saying.

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Vetoed, be prepared, the barbaric minded forum dwellers are coming…

Halo 12 is already in the works by the Chinese government. They say it’s going to print money.

How many arena shooters do you see out now a days. I can’t think of any. Game developers are following CODs business plan because it rakes in loads of cash. Halo was great because it was a great arena shooter that no one could match (except maybe Gears 1). Developers gave up on trying to copy halo and moved onto an easier strategy. If halo 4 had only come with a ranked with only select weapons available it might not be where it is now.
By no means is halo 4 a bad game. Its just not a very good halo game.

keep us in the loop - that is the most important part.

Don’t care if they have the most amazing most game-balancing title update that’s coming in 2 months, I feel like 60% of the halo 4 population has already left and are continuing to leave because no one thinks it will be fixed

I love this game. (The 50% of it that works) But I hate 343i’s silence about everything. The amount of communication before Halo 4’s release was great. It should’ve stayed that way.