Traitor. Halsey is the first name that comes to mind, right? Is that who the bullet is for? I haven’t read many other post about this, so I’m sure someone has brought this up already. Maybe this means that Master Chief will turn against the UNSC. I know that was already a popular speculation. Perhaps this is a reference to Halo: Nightfall how everyone turned on each other when their survival depended on it. Halo 5 might utilize similar themes between the Spartans and Elites. So,
Who do you think the bullet is for?
I doubt it is Halsey given her fate is more than likely going to be decided in the Escalation comics. Given Locke’s mission, I’d say it is for the Master Chief.
I wonder what chief did that made him a traitor,going AWOL doesnt make you a traitor
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> I wonder what chief did that made him a traitor,going AWOL doesnt make you a traitor
I suppose that is why we are hunting the truth.
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I don’t think Locke will be foolish enough to believe what ONI tells him fully.
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Probably not, but when the legendary hero of humanity goes AWOL and vanishes without informing anyone of what he is up to…that raises red flags no matter what you think of ONI.
Maybe its a conspiracy to do with traitorous spartan 4s. Either that or MC has been branded as a traitor.
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> I doubt it is Halsey given her fate is more than likely going to be decided in the Escalation comics. Given Locke’s mission, I’d say it is for the Master Chief.
I hope they don’t do that. It would be pretty anti-climactic. I think Halsey is going to play an important role in Halo 5. Maybe, since she has already been labeled a traitor, if Master Chief finds her (for Cortana reasons), she might pass the label onto him. If not, what would make him a traitor
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Yeah, in Spartan Ops the Librarian seemed to have something planned for Halsey and considering she planned the SPARTAN-IIs and Cortana thousands of years before they came to be, it’s safe to say Halsey is appearing in Halo 5 with an important role and is not going to be killed anytime soon, well extended universe-wise, we don’t know Halo 5’s full story yet.
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> I doubt it is Halsey given her fate is more than likely going to be decided in the Escalation comics. Given Locke’s mission, I’d say it is for the Master Chief.
The bullet and traitor arc is for Halsey. The story of one of the most important characters in the universe betraying the UNSC is not going to be resolved in comics that only a small, dedicated portion of Halo fans even read.
There is no way anyone is calling Chief a traitor yet. He hasn’t done anything to warrant that. He went AWOL with Blue Team but that doesn’t make him a traitor. There may come a point in Halo 5 or at the end of the game when Chief legitimately earns that designation, but he was a returning hero at the end of H4 and he did nothing in the Escalation comics to change from that. There’d be a huge gap in the narrative if he started off H5 a traitor.
It would take a lot for the #1 piece of ONI / UNSC propaganda and the greatest hero humanity has ever known to become a traitor. Something that monumental would have to happen in-game, with the player experiencing it.
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So I can’t assume that Chief is the traitor but you can conclude it is for Halsey? Seems a bit hypocritical. AWOL in and of itself isn’t automatically a treasonous offense, but the thing is we don’t know what Chief is up to as you said. However, that goes both ways. We may enter Halo 5 learning that Chief has done something that warrants him being labelled a traitor.
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> So I can’t assume that Chief is the traitor but you can conclude it is for Halsey? Seems a bit hypocritical. AWOL in and of itself isn’t automatically a treasonous offense, but the thing is we don’t know what Chief is up to as you said. However, that goes both ways. We may enter Halo 5 learning that Chief has done something that warrants him being labelled a traitor.
You can assume whatever you want–I was just disagreeing and explaining why.
But you’ve touched on the main reason I think you’re mistaken–“entering Halo 5 learning that Chief has done something to warrant being labeled a traitor.” That’s not something that would happen in the EU. We’d experience that event or decision in the game… like all the major events in Chief’s story post fall of Reach. Everything else in First Strike, Uprising, and any other piece of EU Chief has been in wasn’t really essential. Chief going from unequivocal hero, totally dedicated to the UNSC and Humanity to traitor would arguably be the biggest thing that ever happened to his character. I just don’t think that’s something 343 would have 90% of Halo fans miss out on.
But it’s all just speculation. Maybe we’ll know one way or the other Sunday night.
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Judging by the cutscenes in the Master Chief Collection, it seems like Chief has done something to warrant him being hunted down by a top ONI agent and his fireteam. Seems like overkill if he is just going off on missions as Escalation leaves us. Even the earlier issues of Escalation hint at him being gone and at that point it is nearly a year after Halo 4.
I’m assuming for the chief right? i mean locke is pretty much hunting him down?? ahhhhh can’t wait for the game. =)
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Sure, maybe. But I stand by my point that Chief would not go from returning hero and savior of humanity to traitor between games. Agree to disagree.
I prefer not to speculate. Lets wait.
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Just because some force considers him a traitor doesn’t mean Chief is evil. Oftentimes it is the great heroes who get marked for elimination similarly to what happened after David killed Goliath and became a hero, King Saul did all he could to off David despite him being a hero. Yet David wasn’t a bad guy because of it.
I haven’t read anything but the first post on this so dont do anything rash now o.o, i’ll read the rest later.
I for one have also thought Halsey to be the traitor of sorts. In the end of Spartans ops, as we know she was shot by Palmer but on the order of an ONI commander. In the game Master Chief and Cortana talk a lot about getting to Halsey and seeing if she can fix Cortana. I haven’t seen much of the comments but after master chief kills? the didact again, there is a log about how Chief has kept on going with missions and won’t stop.
Locke the new ONI character introduced to this game is said to on a manhunt for the Chief but so far no one knows if its bad or good ( or you all do and i’ve just been missing out, anyway). With Locke is the Arbiter who as we know is a friend to Master Chief. As said by Thel’ Vadam questioning Locke “who is your prey” but Locke only says he’s looking for Master Chief.
I think Chief is searching for Halsey, following Jul’ Mdama tracks because he has Halsey. However ONI still wants Halsey dead. So Locke has been sent to find Chief, with the Arbiter (probably to gain the Chiefs trust) so that Locke can be lead straight to Hasley and eliminate her. However I don’t see were the Key gets involved in all this. Though Jul’ Mdama is another target for ONI so i guess killing them both using Locke is killing to birds with one stone.
Well, I guess that we will find out in 2 days, 3 hours, 39 minutes and 12 seconds.
As for who the bullet is for, I am going to say MC. We don’t know what he has done to warrant being targeted by a squad of ONI Spartan-IVs, but I doubt that ONI is being entirely truthful about why he is being targeted… Halo seems to be building up this whole “ONI is evil” story, and I think that the remainder of this Reclaimer saga is going to explore the wonkiness of ONI and those who work for them.
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We’ll have to see how all this plays out after the next issue of Halo: Escalation releases. Halsey may very well be dead before Halo 5 stops if Palmer gets her way.