I’m calling it now.
Chief is gonna get his -Yoink- knocked out at some point. Advanced race finds him and upgrades his armor so he can help them.
You’ll see.
> > The armor was NOT PHYSICALLY updated in cryo. That’s impossible. She only updated his software. 343 changed the armor cause they wanted to.
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> ok but in the novels, the armor can update itself. so the mkVI can become a mk.VII
Which still sounds absolutely ridiculous. I know it’s mentioned in the one of the newer books. These “nanonmachines” can upgrade and repair the actual armor. But c’mon, in Halo 2 chief actually got some new parts in the intro scene. How is that possible if these “nanomachines” should do the work?
Well, the new books come with so many things which have never been explained before. So sudden, from nowhere, only to justify the games content. I think it’s lame.
I hope they don’t use the stupid, so creative, nanomachines idea to explain the new armor…
Surely a lot of the changes can just be explained as field repairs. For example, the shoulder pads look like they could be spare parts that the Chief has strapped to his shoulders for extra protection. As for the missing pieces, surely he just removed them for extra mobility. As for the rest, well they’re just artistic license and due to the extra polygons. Remember, the trailer is not canon, Master Chief doesn’t necessarily wake up looking like that.
Also, about the nanobots, does Glasslands specifically say that Mk.VI can’t upgrade, or does it just say that MK.VII can? If it says that MK.VII is the first armour to have nanobots then that should definitely end this whole nanobot argument that people use.
Im fine with the changes to him …
There’s no canonical reason for it, which is pretty -Yoink- but who knows. I mean would it really be that hard to just recycle Halo 3 armor for the start of the game and then get upgraded on Requiem by an engineer or something? I’m not sure 343 understands the point of engine upgrades, you shouldn’t change something for the sake of looking nicer if it draws you out of the experience.
Hey there all, I know this thread is somewhat old, but I was scrolling through it, and I found some of the theories and explanations to be very engaging and interesting.
Having thought about this same issuer myself quite a bit, as I am a fan of the Mk VI armour, I feel I should bring my own observations to bear.
Essentially, the confirmed firmware/HUD update makes sense and is a valid change for 343i to make. However, from what I can see, the new suit is simply a redesign of the Mk VI, since the scar on the right hand side of the chief’s breast plate is still present, as it was throughout Halo 3, and would have been repaired if the armour was indeed upgraded or replaced by nano bots etc. furthermore, Frank did mention that the new suit has the Braille markings for ‘117’ imprinted on the other side of his chest. A nice, albeit unnecessary touch.
In conclusion, 343i are going to have some serious explaining to do concerning the canon reason for the change, but I feel it is good that they’ve built him the way they want him to look, and respect must be given to the art team for this. But, given that it is still the Mk VI, where did he get the jetpack attachment from!? Did he just suddenly remember he had it?
Anyway, thanks for reading and I am confident that we are all equally looking forward to Halo 4, and best of luck to the 343i team when the game is released.
deal with it reclaimer
Frank O’Connor stated in an interview it was nanobot technology that upgraded the MJOLNIR armor while John was in cryo-stasis. It’s a Cortana-variant armor, now. Yes, she did upgrade the firmware of his HUD, but she also activated the nano-bots and gave Chief his new, one-of-a-kind armor. It was a retcon, basically. The Mark VI had nano-bot technology.
You can watch the whole video, or skip to the 33 second mark.
They changed the armour simply because they were going for a new art direction, so they have a hard time explaining the change - as they said, don’t look into to much.
I heard something about Nano-bots, but whatever; 343 is changing a lot of things and trying to appeal to the hardcore fans with canonical reasons but so far, that all sound like cheap excuses.
It’s Dah Future! Anything is Possible! Cortana’s tinkering changed the armor! Plus it looks better now! My new favorite armor!
I can feel how this thread will face new wars when people get their game and start the campaign…
I hope this will not count as a spoiler, because it is just a clarification: this armor is infact the standart Mark VI. Cortana changed the firmware, right. But the hardware is just a redesign. Frankie’s statement is partially wrong/true, depends how you look at it.
Anyway, it will come clear with release BUT some questions will never be acceptable answered. But this works for me.
> Frank O’Connor stated in an interview it was nanobot technology that upgraded the MJOLNIR armor while John was in cryo-stasis. It’s a Cortana-variant armor, now. Yes, she did upgrade the firmware of his HUD, but she also activated the nano-bots and gave Chief his new, one-of-a-kind armor. It was a retcon, basically. The Mark VI had nano-bot technology.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeZCVtf7jvc
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> You can watch the whole video, or skip to the 33 second mark.
Also, upgrading the armor helped Cortana to survive because, as we know AI’s need to think and perform functions. In Human Weakness (Halo:Evolutions) she even compared performing tasks to breathing. With four years aboard a ship stranded with nothing to do. She could easily shut down or go rampant. The only thing giving her something to do is upgrade the chiefs armor.
In short it means Shortly before reach falls Halsey gives Cortana the specs. for the Mk. VII (Which was in her journal) while she is stranded Cortana tries to upgrade as much of the chief as she can without removing him from Cryo. Therefore, he retains his helmet and the dents because she cannot fully upgrade him. And , other than the part that sticks out over the visor, there is little difference in the two helmets.
Okay who necro-posted…
looks to the poster responsible. 1 post
new guy…again.
> > Frank O’Connor stated in an interview it was nanobot technology that upgraded the MJOLNIR armor while John was in cryo-stasis. It’s a Cortana-variant armor, now. Yes, she did upgrade the firmware of his HUD, but she also activated the nano-bots and gave Chief his new, one-of-a-kind armor. It was a retcon, basically. The Mark VI had nano-bot technology.
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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeZCVtf7jvc
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> > You can watch the whole video, or skip to the 33 second mark.
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> Also, upgrading the armor helped Cortana to survive because, as we know AI’s need to think and perform functions. In Human Weakness (Halo:Evolutions) she even compared performing tasks to breathing. With four years aboard a ship stranded with nothing to do. She could easily shut down or go rampant. The only thing giving her something to do is upgrade the chiefs armor.
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> Here is my theory
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> In short it means Shortly before reach falls Halsey gives Cortana the specs. for the Mk. VII (Which was in her journal) while she is stranded Cortana tries to upgrade as much of the chief as she can without removing him from Cryo. Therefore, he retains his helmet and the dents because she cannot fully upgrade him. And , other than the part that sticks out over the visor, there is little difference in the two helmets.
It’s a redesign…nothing else. Please read posts with facts first, before stating an opinion.
OK.
Canonically, Chief’s armor never changed.
Cortana ONLY updated his firmware, which means his HUD.
Chief’s new appearance is due to a change in art direction. Why? Well (my theory), his Mark IV armor from Halo Legends is now canon, as seen in Forward Unto Dawn. So, the Mark IV armor looks very similar to the original Mark VI armor. This makes very little sense because the Mark V armor looks completely different from it’s successor and predecessor. Pretty inconsistent.
So, they changed the armor to the point where at first sight, you immediately know it’s the master chief. It’s not until you take in the details that you see there are visual differences. It still comes together as being a Mark VI or a Mark VI variant, but also something that properly separates itself enough from the Marks IV and V.
It is the same Mark VI uniform he entered the Cryo-Pod in at the end of Halo 3. But Mark VI is apparently designed with Nano-technology, and Cortana has been able to modify/upgrade it over time in the years he was asleep.
Doesn’t make sense to me to be honest.
UNSC technology in Halo 4 is completely inconsistent with the rest of the series. The UNSC sure as hell didn’t have Nano-tech in 2552, and there’s just no way they could have reality-simulation/holodeck tech in 2556.
> OK.
> Canonically, Chief’s armor never changed.
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> Cortana ONLY updated his firmware, which means his HUD.
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> Chief’s new appearance is due to a change in art direction. Why? Well (my theory), his Mark IV armor from Halo Legends is now canon, as seen in Forward Unto Dawn. So, the Mark IV armor looks very similar to the original Mark VI armor. This makes very little sense because the Mark V armor looks completely different from it’s successor and predecessor. Pretty inconsistent.
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> So, they changed the armor to the point where at first sight, you immediately know it’s the master chief. It’s not until you take in the details that you see there are visual differences. It still comes together as being a Mark VI or a Mark VI variant, but also something that properly separates itself enough from the Marks IV and V.
Except that Canonically, Mark VI “Classic” in multiplayer is meant to be the last variant worn by Spartan IIs Kelly, and Master Chief. And it still looks just like Halo 2/3.
Master Chief’s armour in Halo 4 has been described as “Extremely special custom-designed Cortana armour”. Meaning that only 1 armour like that exists and it is a modified version of the “Classic Mk VI” Master Chief wore in 2/3.
Also, the reason you cannot have it in Multiplayer, is because it is unique, only one version of it exists, because it was only ever modified in the time Cortana and Master Chief were together on the FUD.
> > OK.
> > Canonically, Chief’s armor never changed.
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> > Cortana ONLY updated his firmware, which means his HUD.
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> > Chief’s new appearance is due to a change in art direction. Why? Well (my theory), his Mark IV armor from Halo Legends is now canon, as seen in Forward Unto Dawn. So, the Mark IV armor looks very similar to the original Mark VI armor. This makes very little sense because the Mark V armor looks completely different from it’s successor and predecessor. Pretty inconsistent.
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> > So, they changed the armor to the point where at first sight, you immediately know it’s the master chief. It’s not until you take in the details that you see there are visual differences. It still comes together as being a Mark VI or a Mark VI variant, but also something that properly separates itself enough from the Marks IV and V.
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> Except that Canonically, Mark VI “Classic” in multiplayer is meant to be the last variant worn by Spartan IIs Kelly, and Master Chief. And it still looks just like Halo 2/3.
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> Master Chief’s armour in Halo 4 has been described as “Extremely special custom-designed Cortana armour”. Meaning that only 1 armour like that exists and it is a modified version of the “Classic Mk VI” Master Chief wore in 2/3.
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> Also, the reason you cannot have it in Multiplayer, is because it is unique, only one version of it exists, because it was only ever modified in the time Cortana and Master Chief were together on the FUD.
The Mark VI classic is an easter egg/nod to the Halo’s 2 and 3. Even if the multiplayer is now canon, that aspect isn’t.
I haven’t heard any official content refer to it as special custom designed Cortana armor, and even so, it’s pretty much impossible for her to physically manipulate the armor while he’s in cryo. The nanobot theory COULD work but they’re only apart of the Mark VII armor. I mean, even the HELMET is shaped different and the visor.
Now, I’m very interested in the whole Cortana thing, with her being alone with no one but an armoured Popsicle to talk to, but I simply don’t see how the nano tech could be implemented while on board a derelict ship with limited power. And if MJOLNIR Mk VI does have nano tech, why are we only aware if this now? Why wouldn’t he get his armour repaired/upgraded at an earlier stage? (Because Bungie didn’t consider this eventuality perhaps), but I really think that the reason that seems to be rising as to why the armour looks different: ‘because Cortana was bored’, seems a little far fetched. I would certainly prefer to think of the new suit as simply a redesign, and I can live with that. I am still enormously looking forward to the development of Cortana’s rampancy, and how she and John deal with this. Oh, and I am going to find it hard to get used to John talking while in-game!
> Okay who necro-posted…
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> looks to the poster responsible. 1 post
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> new guy…again.
Yeah, really sorry if reviving an old post is an Internet crime, but I took an interest in this topic, and wanted to share my thoughts, just like everyone else. I hope that’s forgivable!