Top 3 get a win in ffa

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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Let me know what you guys think. Do you agree with this?

( This is coming from me who was a champ 1 in ffa in the beginning of the season)
The new update in ffa is good we can finally find games but only thing i don’t like is how you get a loss if you don’t place first. Is it possible for you guys to make it where the top 3/half of the players in ffa get a win for placing? Shouldn’t even be me saying if it’s possible. I think you guys should do this. Let me give a few reasons why and i will give you guys some pro’s and con’s for this.
Halo 3 - Top half of people who placed in ffa got a win
Halo reach - top half of people who placed in ffa got a win
halo 4 - top half of people who placed in ffa got a win
halo mcc- top half of people who paced in ffa got a win ( before you guys updated it to only 1st place wins idk if it was error on your guys part or not)
After ffa was 1st place only to win in mcc then the playlist died down. Went from me being able to find games to not finding games at all sometimes
halo 5- 1st place gets a win only
You guys had it good from the start idk why yo guys decided to change it up all of a sudden to 1st place only.
There’s a reason a lot of people played ffa back then and it was because they could get their wins up while playing ffa when it was top 3 win. I’ve been playing halo for like 10 years and loved ffa then but now i’m just iffy about it.
Halo kids ( Competitive one’s ) care about their records and when i mean they care they care a lot so basically what is happening is that the population that cares about their record isn’t playing h5 ffa. It’s really not possible to have an insanely good record in ffa. I’ve seen even pro’s have bad records in the playlist.
Then you got other people who have no h5 friends or barely any h5 friends so what would they be doing if they got nobody on? They would play ffa trying to get some more wins if they get a win for placing. But instead when nobody is on they will either get off or go on another game. Almost everyone on my friends list says h5 ffa is whack for the simple fact that you get a win for placing 1st only and it’s impossible to get 1st every game. I had champ 1 in the beginning of the season and had like a 82 win%. Would have had like a 98 win% if i got wins for placing.
The people who really don’t care about their records are the only one’s playing h5 ffa. Then you got the other population who only likes ffa so either they’re stuck playing ffa or they completely don’t play the game at all and play anther game. I’ll play h5 every other day or so it’s just like ehh for me. I’d definitely play more and be griding if you actually got a win for placing and i’m sure a lot of others would as well. You guys had it in h4 and mcc where if you place top half you get a win idk why you guys decided to change it.
Lets say for example bob is playing hcs at night with his team and his team gets off. Bob is competitive so he cares about his record. He see’s that ffa is top 3 get a win so he will search when he has no one that’s on. If he see’s that ffa is only 1st place gets a win then he simple won’t play and will either get off or go on a diff game. Heck even call of duty gives you a win for placing now… lol. Or if he wants to warm up in the morning he will play ffa.

Pros - Higher population/More of the Competitive population will play ffa/Higher the population = More people playing h5 = Faster games = More people searching at night time so people can find games ( sometimes you can’t find games at night) = More people playing ffa for the simple fact they can get their record up
One of the reasons halo 3 thrived was because of people making new accounts caring about their record. I’m sure there will be plenty of people making new accounts going for perfect record champions in ffa if you guys do end up making it top half get a win. You will also see more streamers/pro’s playing ffa which will increase the population even more.
Cons- There really aren’t any cons at all… Lol. Nobody is going to complain about getting a win for placing. Instead of people having 10-20 win percentages in ffa they will have better one’s and better records overall. Not many people want an account with a 10-20 win % lol… n that’s why not many people play ffa. I legit match the same people every time i play.
If it’s not possible to do i hope you guys at least do this in halo 6. Really though you guys aren’t losing anything by doing this and by everything i just said you guys will only benefit from this. Literally every single person i’ve talked to about ffa in halo 5 say they don’t like it only because you don’t get a win for placing when in all the other halo’s it gave a win for placing. N when i mean other people i mean people who have been playing halo for years and constantly grind xbox. Not just casuals who play like once a week. All i see is a win/win situation with this so i hope you guys follow through on this. I’ve been playing for 10+ years and i wanna keep supporting halo for the simple fact that i enjoy playing but i’m a little iffy on how you only get a win for placing 1st in ffa on h5. FFA is pretty much all i and many others play/enjoy so i hope you guys can make ffa great again.

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So if I got this right, you want 2nd and 3rd to be counted as a win correct?

I don’t have a HUGE problem with that but technically you didn’t win… you know… so your winning % is somewhat misleading if they count 2nd and 3rd as a win. Maybe a better thing to do would be for FAA not have wins/loses and have a stat that shows how many times you got first, second, third etc.

Also you said,

> There’s a reason a lot of people played ffa back then and it was because they could get their wins up while playing ffa when it was top 3 win

I have to disagree here. The reason why a lot of people played FFA before was it was because it was the easiest playlist to get a champion rank as it was more about just grinding it out than actual skill. ZaedynFel of 343I talked about this in the past in his matchmaking feedback discussion forum if your interested.

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FFA needs it’s own separate ranking really. What 343 needs to do is really separate the stats for players more than it is. Maybe have separate stats for ranked between FFA and the 4v4, social stats, warzone and then firefight stats.

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This is what ZaedynFel wrote about this back in April.

> Can we have 1-3 count as a win in FFA?
> This is something we would like to do, but is currently deceptively difficult for technical reasons related to the current specific implementation of how wins and losses are reported. I don’t think this will get fixed for Halo 5, but it’s something we are aware of and would prefer down the road.

No matter whether you receive the win your CSR does go up when you are 1st through 3rd.

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> So if I got this right, you want 2nd and 3rd to be counted as a win correct?
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> I don’t have a HUGE problem with that but technically you didn’t win… you know… so your winning % is somewhat misleading if they count 2nd and 3rd as a win. Maybe a better thing to do would be for FAA not have wins/loses and have a stat that shows how many times you got first, second, third etc.
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> Also you said,
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> > There’s a reason a lot of people played ffa back then and it was because they could get their wins up while playing ffa when it was top 3 win
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> I have to disagree here. The reason why a lot of people played FFA before was it was because it was the easiest playlist to get a champion rank as it was more about just grinding it out than actual skill. ZaedynFel of 343I talked about this in the past in his matchmaking feedback discussion forum if your interested.

When i meant “back then” i mean the other halo’s where you get a win for placing top half.

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> 2533274815533909;2:
> So if I got this right, you want 2nd and 3rd to be counted as a win correct?
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> I don’t have a HUGE problem with that but technically you didn’t win… you know… so your winning % is somewhat misleading if they count 2nd and 3rd as a win. Maybe a better thing to do would be for FAA not have wins/loses and have a stat that shows how many times you got first, second, third etc.

I’m a former champ 1 in ffa and i will even say it’s a joke that only 1st place gets a win. Like i stated before in the o.p that it’s just not possible to win all your games no matter how good you are. The highest win % i’ve seen is 82-85% in the champion range. The rest of the majority of are like 10-20-30 win percentages. Now what game do you see people having 20-30 win percentages in? Not really any other game. It’s not misleading at all because it’s always been the top 3 get a win idk why they decided to change it to 1st only but i see it doing more harm then good the way it is right now. Halo kids cares about their records a lot and only giving a win to 1st place discourages so many people from wanting to play. Maybe to a lot of casuals it doesn’t make a difference but to competitive people it does. Then again there’s not a lot of competitive people on the forums so many people on here probably don’t care about their wins/losses. The only reason i decided to post on here is so they can possibly change this.

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oh well i am glad to see someone think like me…

me i would like something who show all game position… something like that :

300 games :

1rst: 45 games
2st: 80 games
3st: 40 games
4st: 50 games
5st: 55 games
6st: 30 games

i am always curious to see how i am doing… but the only thing i can see his win :frowning: …

anyway i really like your idea. and i play a lot FFA .

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