to the people who dont like the arbiters...

new look why?why dont you like it for me i thought halo 5s campaign was garbage but i really like the arbiters new look its badass and with his sword omg 10/10 doesnt mean i dont like arbiters old look they both look great

The issue primarily stems from his physical design, not the armor. He should look more like this under his armor, rather than this (note the different facial structure and other things).

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> The issue primarily stems from his physical design, not the armor. He should look more like this under his armor, rather than this (note the different facial structure and other things).

What issue? His facial features are completely covered by his helmet. Or are you talking about his exposed arm? It could be war paint, or just how he ages.

It’s definitely war paint, but I do agree with Emperor on the physical look of the Sangheili.

Their physiology looks exactly the same. Whats the difference?! Legitimately wondering because I’ve heard this gripe forever. I wish someone would circle it in paint because I don’t get it. And the armour looks so much better.

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> What issue? His facial features are completely covered by his helmet. Or are you talking about his exposed arm? It could be war paint, or just how he ages.

Apologies, that’s a bad example. He should look more like the Halo 2 Anniversary design. However, in Halo 5, 343 chose to use the model for the Elites in Halo 4 instead.

Look at Gek 'Lhar’s face. That is basically what Halo 5’s Arbiter looks like without his helmet, save for not having a scar on his left eye. Compared to the Halo 2 Anniversary design, the facial features are very different.

I still hate how they altered the Arbiter’s physiology to be the more bulbous, beefy design of the new Elite Phenotype with the slightly different mandibles. Actually, I dislike the new Elite phenotype altogether. The H2A elites were much better than the 4/5 elites.

because before he looked like a real warior that was smart and now he looks like an over the top stupid alien…

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> because before he looked like a real warior that was smart and now he looks like an over the top stupid alien…

especially in halo legends, the elites look the most human in that imo.

This thread is pointless. Everyone loves the king of all Dinos.

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> because before he looked like a real warior that was smart and now he looks like an over the top stupid alien…

I feel like this comment is more of an “I love Bungie and hate 343” comment than an actual thought out opinion. sarcasm yes, the mandibles are the make or break of looking like a true warrior and looking like an over the top stupid alien.

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> I feel like this comment is more of an “I love Bungie and hate 343” comment than an actual thought out opinion. sarcasm yes, the mandibles are the make or break of looking like a true warrior and looking like an over the top stupid alien.

yes that is my opinion, but im also more of a bungie fan, imo he looked more like an actual warior before than a stupid alien in 343s.

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> > > because before he looked like a real warior that was smart and now he looks like an over the top stupid alien…
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> > I feel like this comment is more of an “I love Bungie and hate 343” comment than an actual thought out opinion. sarcasm yes, the mandibles are the make or break of looking like a true warrior and looking like an over the top stupid alien.
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> yes that is my opinion, but im also more of a bungie fan, imo he looked more like an actual warior before than a stupid alien in 343s.

but imo the arbiter looked the most human in halo legends, thats one thing 343 or the animators got right i guess.

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> yes that is my opinion, but im also more of a bungie fan, imo he looked more like an actual warior before than a stupid alien in 343s.

How do those two elite phenotypes that look very similar make you absolutely hate one but love the other? That’s what makes me think that you’re bias towards Bungie. I understand that you prefer one over the other (as do I), but I don’t get how you can love one but despise the other. Please convince me that you’re not bias.

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> > yes that is my opinion, but im also more of a bungie fan, imo he looked more like an actual warior before than a stupid alien in 343s.
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> How do those two elite phenotypes that look very similar make you absolutely hate one but love the other? That’s what makes me think that you’re bias towards Bungie. I understand that you prefer one over the other (as do I), but I don’t get how you can love one but despise the other. Please convince me that you’re not bias.

they dont look similar…what are you on?? imo the arbiter looked more human and likeable in bungies thats it…

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> > > > > because before he looked like a real warior that was smart and now he looks like an over the top stupid alien…
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> > > > I feel like this comment is more of an “I love Bungie and hate 343” comment than an actual thought out opinion. sarcasm yes, the mandibles are the make or break of looking like a true warrior and looking like an over the top stupid alien.
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> > How do those two elite phenotypes that look very similar make you absolutely hate one but love the other? That’s what makes me think that you’re bias towards Bungie. I understand that you prefer one over the other (as do I), but I don’t get how you can love one but despise the other. Please convince me that you’re not bias.
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> they dont look similar…what are you on?? imo the arbiter looked more human in bungies thats it…

Yah they look pretty similar. You can still tell that they are elites. So let me get this straight: you don’t like 343’s elites…because they don’t look human? I hate to break it to you, but they’re aliens, not humans. They’re not supposed to look like humans. Also, Bungie’s also don’t look human because, you know, humans don’t have mandibles.

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> > > > > > because before he looked like a real warior that was smart and now he looks like an over the top stupid alien…
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> > > > > I feel like this comment is more of an “I love Bungie and hate 343” comment than an actual thought out opinion. sarcasm yes, the mandibles are the make or break of looking like a true warrior and looking like an over the top stupid alien.
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> > > > yes that is my opinion, but im also more of a bungie fan, imo he looked more like an actual warior before than a stupid alien in 343s.
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> > they dont look similar…what are you on?? imo the arbiter looked more human in bungies thats it…
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> Yah they look pretty similar. You can still tell that they are elites. So let me get this straight: you don’t like 343’s elites…because they don’t look human? I hate to break it to you, but they’re aliens, not humans. They’re not supposed to look like humans. Also, Bungie’s also don’t look human because, you know, humans don’t have mandibles.

im just saying he looks even more alien in 343s, he actually looks likeable and relatable in bungies imo.

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> > > > > yes that is my opinion, but im also more of a bungie fan, imo he looked more like an actual warior before than a stupid alien in 343s.
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> > > > How do those two elite phenotypes that look very similar make you absolutely hate one but love the other? That’s what makes me think that you’re bias towards Bungie. I understand that you prefer one over the other (as do I), but I don’t get how you can love one but despise the other. Please convince me that you’re not bias.
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> > Yah they look pretty similar. You can still tell that they are elites. So let me get this straight: you don’t like 343’s elites…because they don’t look human? I hate to break it to you, but they’re aliens, not humans. They’re not supposed to look like humans. Also, Bungie’s also don’t look human because, you know, humans don’t have mandibles.
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> im just saying he looks even more alien in 343s, he actually looks likeable and relatable in bungies imo.

SMH I give up. Just look up pictures of Halo CE-Reach elites, then look up Halo 4/5 elites. Trust me, they both look plenty alien. /s im sure when you first saw the arbiter, you said, “wow, he looks likeable.”

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> > > > > > yes that is my opinion, but im also more of a bungie fan, imo he looked more like an actual warior before than a stupid alien in 343s.
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> > > Yah they look pretty similar. You can still tell that they are elites. So let me get this straight: you don’t like 343’s elites…because they don’t look human? I hate to break it to you, but they’re aliens, not humans. They’re not supposed to look like humans. Also, Bungie’s also don’t look human because, you know, humans don’t have mandibles.
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> > im just saying he looks even more alien in 343s, he actually looks likeable and relatable in bungies imo.
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> SMH I give up. Just look up pictures of Halo CE-Reach elites, then look up Halo 4/5 elites. Trust me, they both look plenty alien. /s im sure when you first saw the arbiter, you said, “wow, he looks likeable.”

i compared halo 4s spartan ops elites to the arbiter in halo 2 and no they dont look similar, halo 4s look much more meaner and uglier.

Personally the way I see it, 343’s elites are (but not literally) the halo equivalent of a Japanese Samurai wearing a Somen but in this case the elites actual face is the Somen, what I’m getting is that most people think you have to look a certain way in order to be classified as being “honorable”, but in reality that doesn’t matter at all, you can be the most honorable of all warriors and have a ugly mug at the same time!

http://www.bladeshop.ru/prod/ls_01330182362.jpg

Here’s a even better example from the race that may have partially inspired the elites.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PV0-jlb96Z4/maxresdefault.jpg

As for the arbiters body type…It has been canonically confirmed that the arbiters correct phenotype is the h2a elites but whether or not 343 should try to be as accurate as possible for the next game?

http://i0.wp.com/www.pulsopop.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/giphy.gif?resize=800%2C450