Ok let’s just say this we all know it’s because achilles .Listen it takes a lot of people playing constantly to get it and kill counts on commendation is pretty high and gets even larger after level 4 and 5 so you have to farm to get it you have to get to level 3 to get the armor and level 5 to get the helmet ok let’s say when you get to level 4 there’s like 15k to 24k of kills you have to earn for each commendation oh and it gets even larger after you get to level 5 it takes forever to do unless you have people playing constantly this is why companies farm kills gets unless 343 decreases the level to get the helmet it might ease the kill farming but I doubt it there are probably hundreds of companies grinding towards it so I doubt it stops good luck just fight your way though it like a spartan
then you have those companies who just farm because they want to whats your point
Do you expect people to read that?
I saw the first two sentences, but then I stopped reading…
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> Ok let’s just say this we all know it’s because achilles .Listen it takes a lot of people playing constantly to get it and kill counts on commendation is pretty high and gets even larger after level 4 and 5 so you have to farm to get it you have to get to level 3 to get the armor and level 5 to get the helmet ok let’s say when you get to level 4 there’s like 15k to 24k of kills you have to earn for each commendation oh and it gets even larger after you get to level 5 it takes forever to do unless you have people playing constantly this is why companies farm kills gets unless 343 decreases the level to get the helmet it might ease the kill farming but I doubt it there are probably hundreds of companies grinding towards it so I doubt it stops good luck just fight your way though it like a spartan
Your premise is completely wrong, so anything after your first sentence relating spawn killing and armor is false. 343 compared the killing before AND after the announcement of the armor and THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARMOR. Spawn killing has been occurring WAY before halo was a video game. Spawn killing is an unavoidable property of ANY FPS. Stop pointing fingers at people, and take a look at yourself playing and figure out if what you have to do to stop it. No ‘farmer’ is forcing you to get spawn killed, just as how many players need to stop telling others how to play because they aren’t having fun.
I’m glad 343 made it hard to get the armor, you actually have to work for it. Many companies doing this thing called “making friends and play together constantly,” I encourage many of you to do this special social act called “communicating” and “making friends with people online” instead of pointing fingers and making up excuses.
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> > Ok let’s just say this we all know it’s because achilles .Listen it takes a lot of people playing constantly to get it and kill counts on commendation is pretty high and gets even larger after level 4 and 5 so you have to farm to get it you have to get to level 3 to get the armor and level 5 to get the helmet ok let’s say when you get to level 4 there’s like 15k to 24k of kills you have to earn for each commendation oh and it gets even larger after you get to level 5 it takes forever to do unless you have people playing constantly this is why companies farm kills gets unless 343 decreases the level to get the helmet it might ease the kill farming but I doubt it there are probably hundreds of companies grinding towards it so I doubt it stops good luck just fight your way though it like a spartan
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> Your premise is completely wrong, so anything after your first sentence relating spawn killing and armor is false. 343 compared the killing before AND after the announcement of the armor and THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARMOR. Spawn killing has been occurring WAY before halo was a video game. Spawn killing is an unavoidable property of ANY FPS. Stop pointing fingers at people, and take a look at yourself playing and figure out if what you have to do to stop it. No ‘farmer’ is forcing you to get spawn killed, just as how many players need to stop telling others how to play because they aren’t having fun.
> I’m glad 343 made it hard to get the armor, you actually have to work for it. Many companies doing this thing called “making friends and play together constantly,” I encourage many of you to do this special social act called “communicating” and “making friends with people online” instead of pointing fingers and making up excuses.
Lol, another person who has fallen for the propaganda! Dear oh dear, people are so easily led. They only showed 1 week after Achilles was announced, lol! Obviously Achilles has had an effect, else why didn’t they show 1 month after it was announced?
Use your brain, and stop writing stuff in bold and capitals. It doesn’t make your point any more valid.
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> Use your brain, and stop writing stuff in bold and capitals. It doesn’t make your point any more valid.
Please explain how it “obviously has had an effect” when in h1,2,3 the spawn killing way much easier. I’m dying to hear your facts. Please “use your brain” too.
Regardless of the reason. The real problem is completely unbalanced teams. You simply can not matchup a team of randoms to be competitive against a party of 12. You also can not expect the whole player population to go searching for a team to play with so they have a better chance. Neither are going to happen. A party of 12 playing against randoms is equal to a 12 yr old fighting a 5 year old. and not just fighting the 5 yr old but taunting him for 30 minutes as they stomp them in the ground.
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> Please explain how it “obviously has had an effect” when in h1,2,3 the spawn killing way much easier. I’m dying to hear your facts. Please “use your brain to.”
H5 isn’t 1, 2, 3, Reach, or 4. So even if they are in the same series it doesn’t matter how easy it is to spawn kill in those games because this is a discussion of farming in warzone, not in arena or the game as a whole. But data can be presented in almost anyway to make it sound good so of you are only looking at the first week then it probably hadn’t been in full swing.
That said farming is said to be done in 0.3% of warzone games so I doubt it would effect death count altogether but it is still unsportsmanlike behavior and does violate terms of service.
If I had the ability I’d either make Achilles possible to get by solo play (but could be harder since you don’t have to depend on a team) or just take it out altogether since the only people who currently have it are the farmers.
That whole story is one sentence.
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> Regardless of the reason. The real problem is completely unbalanced teams. You simply can not matchup a team of randoms to be competitive against a party of 12. You also can not expect the whole player population to go searching for a team to play with so they have a better chance. Neither are going to happen. A party of 12 playing against randoms is equal to a 12 yr old fighting a 5 year old. and not just fighting the 5 yr old but taunting him for 30 minutes as they stomp them in the ground.
I agree to a certain extent, they should have implemented team vs team and smaller teams vs smaller teams, and solo vs solo. The mindset of these 3 types has a much larger impact of the dynamic of the game.
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> I agree to a certain extent, they should have implemented team vs team and smaller teams vs smaller teams, and solo vs solo. The mindset of these 3 types has a much larger impact of the dynamic of the game.
They need at least one more Warzone gametype either for solo players or a gametype teams of 6 or bigger. This is all that needs to be done. Problem solved.
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It occurs in all fps’s in all playlist.
When people say it it’s unsportmanlike, that’s subjective and I don’t agree with it, because I’m interpreting it as " I am not having fun because the other players are constantly killing me with no regard. If I’m not having fun, then other players must also not have fun, therefore it is wrong."
The spawn killers could argue the same way and say “other players lacking skill” (again subjective). “I am spawn killing the other team, the other team does not know what to do to get out of the trap, therefore they are lacking skill.”
Both are incorrect, imo, so reporting for unsportsmanlike behavior is the same as pointing fingers because it’s as if players just give up and don’t know what to do.
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I don’t think it would be a solution, but it is a change in the correct direction to remove majority of the problems players are having. 
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Oh lordy.
Unsportsmanship behaviour is more or less disrespecting your opponent through means of gameplay, or team mates for that matter.
I sure can have fun losing and getting beaten quickly. But drag the match out for your own gain at my expense, both time and experience wise, not allowing a gracious ending, is disrespecting me as a player.
If you can destroy the core in Warzone, then do so and end it. Don’t disrespect everyone on the enemy team. Or cap all flags or whatever objective there is in the match.
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That’s the point. Its subjective. You don’t have to agree that its unsporting for others to feel that way.
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I don’t see how that’s disrespectful, if the game is dragging out aren’t you have more time to figure out what to do/ get out of the trap?
No one can tell someone else how to play, obviously you prefer to core to be blown up and I understand, but are you’re saying “end game because I don’t want to be disrespected.” That kind of give me the sense that you basically have given up, which could be disrespectful to the other players too.
Earlier, Spartan x posted the best remedy to the issue, team vs team and random vs random. That is honestly, the best change to alleviate majority of the problem many players are having.
You actually blamed 343 for the reason why people are being -Yoinks!- to the rest of the community, and then basically told everyone to fight their way out of dying 1 second after spawning. I think this thread needs to be locked it going to start so much flame.
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Farming is not just spawnkilling, it’s intentionaly not blowing up the core just to rack up kills towards a goal such as Achillies. It it the obvious reason because farming started like a week after it came out. You’re delusional if you think there is no correlation.
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No teams would be able to find a game. Very few people can organise a whole team together so you only find 2-4 teams every couple hours.