To all staff at 343 Industries

When Halo CE came out,it just blew my mind.At the time i was playing Blue Streak,Street Fighter 3 and other games on the Dreamcast but Halo was like nothing i had ever played.
When Halo 2 came out,i wasn’t overly hyped about dual-wielding but i loved the game for what it was.
Wasn’t overly hyped about Brutes being the main villains in Halo 3 but loved the game anyways for what it was.
Halo Reach was so awesome because it gave me a small taste of what a Spartan actually were and is the game i play till this day the most,even tho it didn’t feel as open as the previous ones before.
When i played Halo 4 and especially Halo 5 i truly felt for the first time like a real super-human/soldier gameplay-wise but was a bit dissapointed in certain aspects of both games,but still loved them for what they were.
Halo Infinite,from the little i have seen,has given me the same feeling the first game gave me.That sense of open-world to explore on this huge ring,which i feel should’ve been there all along,but technology wouldn’t allow,until now.
Each game has had things i didn’t like,but i have loved everyone in there own way and for what they were.
I’m sure there are going to be things in Halo Infinite i’m not going to like,like those big yellow bullet tracers or whatever they are called when you shoot,or that the Warthog maybe could sound a little beefier,and probably other things too,but i i’m equally sure that i will love this new game for what it is,like i have with every Halo before.

Are the graphics overall something that could use additional work to really represent next-gen?Sure,but it doesn’t guarantee a game that’s any more fun because of it.Look at Crysis 2 and 3.Pretty,but no so much fun.

I’m super excited to see what Halo Infinite will look and feel like once it is out.

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> Monitors don’t work for 343i.

who do they work for then? mcdonalds?

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> I’m a little irked about sprint being in the game after we all complained about it for 5 years straight

5 years? How about 10?
Sprint has been the single most-hated mechanic ever since Bungie’s Reach in 2010.

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> Sprint has been the single most-hated mechanic ever since Bungie’s Reach in 2010.

Well in Reach Sprint wasn’t a built-in mechanic and I’d argue Jetpack and Armor Lock were more hated at the time.

Contructive critism even at the risk of “offending” those who might be jaded be it publisher or developer is valid. Often the case as such is appreciated and I belive thats the case regarding 343 unless proven otherwise.

Destructive critism like the nonsense which indeed was censored are not helping anyone. Diplomacy 101, right? Yeah, its discouraging and it might actually indirectly, partly influencing devs to i nthe end dont give a *insert harsh word *

My view, now… more coffee!

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> Well in Reach Sprint wasn’t a built-in mechanic and I’d argue Jetpack and Armor Lock were more hated at the time.

Maybe armor lock was more disliked for Reach specifically, but it was gone from the next game. Sprint has been continuously despised over the entire decade.
Also, I don’t remember anybody hating on jetpack. Certainly not to the same degree as AL and sprint. O.o

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> > > > I want to thank you all for the incredible hard work that you all have been doing to make this game a spiritual reboot of the Halo series, and I must say that I am excited to play Infinite after watching the game-play in today’s Xbox event.
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> > > > As an original and loyal Halo player of ALL Halo titles on all platforms I would have to say you all have met the perfect balance with making the game feel like an original (Bungie made) Halo title while making you own logical spin on the game. I am impressed with how much it feels and looks like a Halo title we all know and love and yet has something new for us to explore.
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> > > > There is a ton of hate going around because of this campaign reveal and I feel like it is misguided, confused, and biased. I seems like most of it is because these people have been personally hurt from Halo 4 and 5 and cannot let go of the past. I feel once they see the actual game in its finished state most of them will change their minds and come to love this game you guys have worked so hard for.
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> > > > Also I would like to make a point on the Brute’s face markings. The white war paint on his face kind of makes his face look like low resolution textures. I had to watch the campaign video multiple times to realize that it was not skin texture and that it was in fact war face paint. I didn’t want to tell you how to do it, but I just wanted to point out the fact that the face paint looks like low resolution skin textures.
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> > > > Remember to not ignore the hate, but don’t take it to heart and don’t take it personal. These people have just been hurt and they need some healing and reassurance.
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> > > > Keep on trucking and knock us out of the ball park on this one 343! We’re ready!
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> > > Based on what we saw 343 has a lot to answer for. If this is how the game looks at launch Halo is dead.
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> > > Halo not only has to be pushing the envelope graphically as the other Halo games did but in the gameplay department and so far nothing I saw impressed me that much.
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> > What you saw in the campaign reveal was an older version of the demo and at current time the game is already much more polished.
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> Do you have any source to back up that claim? Are you saying something you hope is true hoping 343i will notice your efforts to defend a faceless corporation?
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> Let us get some objective facts out of the way with:
> - This was a Microsoft held event, not a 343i held event - The goal was to showcase games going to be on the XBox Series X (lame name) - When trying to sell a product, you want to make it as appealing as possible - Consoles are expensive, and the PS5 is going to be released around the same time - The competition is tough - They needed to make it the absolute best presentation possible, especially after how well received Sony’s PS5 press conference was - 343 Industries has given us no information about Halo Infinite since the announcement trailer - Halo Infinite is going to be released within four months - The Halo franchise was used as a system seller, a way to get people to buy XBoxesNow that we got that out of the way with, let me know if anything I said was factually incorrect.
> The difference between a fact an opinion is if you can prove it is always true.Can you explain to me why a company that has been working on a game for five years, with no information until four months until release, and hoping it will make people want to buy an expensive new console, will give sup-par gameplay and visuals instead of the best they can show? This was not an event for Halo fans, but something to show the entire world to say “Look at me!” You only have one chance to make a first impression, and now it is a laughing stock among the gaming community, not just Halo fans.
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> There is a possibility the game will be great, but right now everyone is comparing it to Destiny, Doom, Borderlands, and Titanfall, while reminding everyone of what Anthem was like from announcement to release. 343i has been controversial due to Call of “halo” 4, the Disaster Chief Collection, and “halo” 5, with the sales and population to back that up. Sure the franchise was on a slow decline since Reach, but 343 Industries accelerated it.

Well I can tell you that consoles are the cheapest way to go if you want to consider gaming. Even smartphones that are gaming capable are more expensive than consoles. It is somewhat true that 343i hasn’t given us any “real” info on the game since last years teaser, but they have given us a few screenshots and audio recordings in the mean time (it’s not much, but it’s something). Also for the sources saying they used an earlier version of the game, its here on waypoint, HidenXperia and HaloFollower talked with 343i in a conference call imediately after the campaign reveal, and there are tons of credible websites that have covered this topic (too many too list/easy to find).

Also I’m not defending their company. I’m trying to show face for the fans that are still excited to see this game release. Plus positive feedback works for team moral and helps get the job done (even if some people dont think they deserve it).

I personally think the game is going to be at least good, but I am also keeping it in my mind that this game could just turn for the worst and it be total trash, and as I said many times elsewhere this Halo game will be my last one if it disappoints.

The thing about comparing games in these current times is that you cant make any game at all (I dont care if it’s something that hasn’t been done before) without some people comparing it to other games or saying “this reminds me of this game”. That’s just how it is now because there are thousands of games on the market and its literally impossible to make an entirely unique game that is completely different from everything else.

I agree that 343i should have used a more updated version of the game as a first impression because you are right, first impressions are everything and I think 343i did drop the ball on that part. But to me the gameplay looks good and I know how easy it is to add in those finer details in the last few months, so the lack of details didnt bother me at all.

If you think about it for a little bit 5 years really doesnt seem like enough time to pump out a proper game when they had to make an entire new engine first, and then make the game for that engine. Making an entire new engine by itself takes at least a years time minimum to make. When they talked about it in 2018 they said they were still tweaking and fiddling with the engine while they were making the game. Thats hard to do because the slightest change can restructure something critical in the game. Not to mention all this Covid-19 and other multiple political stuff going on in the world.

You and everyone else who feels the way you do has every right to feel disappointed in 343i for their track record and using an old version of the game as a first impression. I would still give the game a chance and playing it might change your mind. Also check out the updated trailer. It has a more current build that all of you might like better.

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> Look Im not going to sit here and blindly hate 343.
> But I’m not going to sit here and say they don’t deserve a decent bit of whats said about them.
> I personally feel as if they have ignored us for 10 years! While they are copying other games.
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> In the beginning I thought it was because they were a new company, but over time I began to feel like they do this purpose.
> There has to be a reason they are named after what killed Johnson.

I’m right there with you. They definitely deserve some rough criticism, but not blind hate. At the same time these people have been working their butts off to make this work, so I feel they should get some kind of positive encouragement (not praise) because constant negativity drains your soul. I also do feel like they ignored us the whole time up until now and that’s why if this ends up being another 343i fail game then I’m done playing halo games. But if it shows they have listened and their hard work has paid off then I will remain loyal to Halo.

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I think the monitors are just website moderators. I dont think they get paid at all. But I could be wrong.

Wholesome post OP.

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> I think the monitors are just website moderators. I dont think they get paid at all. But I could be wrong.

We don’t work for 343 and we don’t get paid for what we do here

I agree with you for the most part OP.

There are some valid criticisms to be made, grappleshot physics and graphics being my two biggest, but you know what, as another day 1 fan, I’m quite satisfied with what I saw. What I saw was Halo.

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> That will be the spirit at MS if Infinite fails, especially if the budget is anywhere near the rumored $500M amount. MS could develop several new franchises with that kind of money. Masterchief and Halo deserved a legendary send off, but I’m getting a Mass Effect: Andromeda vibe from the what I saw in the demo today.

That’s the stupidest comparison i think I’ve heard so far, so thanks for that. What gives it a mass effect feel …they aren’t doing dialogue trees and stuff like that, you’re just trying to stir up drama putting infinite compared to a game that is universally hated by most people because it fits your agenda. You haven’t said what makes you feel like it’s like ME-A, maybe if you did it would make more sense.

Bottom line, that demo was lacking. And when 343 says ‘ah, the pandemic, it’s an earlier build’ I just have to wonder why a game that’s been in development for half a decade looks so meh?

That demo had one job to do: impress people who walked away from Halo due to Halo 5. The demo failed.

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> There are some valid criticisms to be made, grappleshot physics and graphics being my two biggest, but you know what, as another day 1 fan, I’m quite satisfied with what I saw. What I saw was Halo.

Amen brother. Hope to see you on the ring.

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> We don’t work for 343 and we don’t get paid for what we do here

One of the legendary Monitors has actually directly acknowledged me! I am in awe and humbled. Thankyou for your time and hard work stckrboy.

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Monitors work on the installations

Hey 343 you can make this game amazing or a dud it’s up to you.

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I was speaking in context of a sequel claiming to refresh a franchise, doing irreversible harm instead. Infinite is being touted as a “spiritual reboot”, but so far it seems to be more similar to H4/H5 with worse graphics. But, as I’ve stated elsewhere on these forums, I’m cautiously optimistic that Infinite will change for the better when launch time comes around. Whenever that may be.

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Me personally it seems like the story is better than Halo 5, but I will have to see more of the story to determine if I think the story is better than 4. As far as the graphics go it has been said so many times that the reveal was a version about 7-8 months old. Im not going to list my sources because you can look it up on Google and there is probably a dozen websites that have covered this topic.