To all of the people telling us not to buy Halo 5.

Games Halo: The Master Chief Collection
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You do realize that there are several artists, innocent lighting guys, animators and all that, right? 343 isn’t some entity, it is a group of people with families who are trying their best you -Yoink-. I don’t care how bad they messed up with the MCC, they are CLEARLY trying. They are constantly informing us on their progress. Some of you act like 343 is just some corporate demon that is trying to steal our souls. I love Halo’s sci-fi universe, and I won’t *not buy it on your behalf.

Edit: I care more about the game than 343’s employees, BUT I’m simply stating that 343 are really trying, so tone down the hate. It’s not like Bungie was able to deliver a compelling sci-fi univerese with Destiny. It was more of a so-so sci-fi solar system with practically no dialogue, and insane repetition and lack of equal starts in multiplayer.

Edit: It appears that some of your fps careers are over. Halo 5 is a hell of a lot more competitive and skill based than any other shooter in the foreseeable future. And to think that your pride is so high, that you won’t even push plastic buttons to shoot out fake bullets anymore…

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I’m not going to shell out 60 just so I can make sure the graphic artist who didn’t have the sense to jump ship and find a good developer can put food on his table.

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> I’m not going to shell out 60 just so I can make sure the graphic artist who didn’t have the sense to jump ship and find a good developer can put food on his table.

Well, I’m a fan of Halo’s characters, sci-fi tech, enemies. It’s all very incredible. I don’t want to shell out 60 bucks for some military bro-fest with golden guns either. I want an adventure with well composed music. If you honestly think that Halo 5 is going to be bad, you have some really weird standards. Tell me when you find another Console shooter with a decently long campaign, equal starts, and reticles that make for accurate hipfiring. $60 is chump change, so I’d rather spend my change on something that took a lot of heart and soul, and not some annual money grabber. Halo is most certainly not some cash cow. It has a lot of lore that can still be covered.

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I could careless about the people who work for 343. I have preordered the Legendary Edition because #1 I want the stuff that comes with the pre-order. #2 the simple fact that I love Halo. #3. I enjoyed the beta and can’t wait to see where the Halo campaign is going.

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> I’m not going to shell out 60 just so I can make sure the graphic artist who didn’t have the sense to jump ship and find a good developer can put food on his table.

Then that is your belief. All these people who are telling others to not buy Halo 5: Guardians need to stop forcing what they want on others. It is really annoying. Same thing with pre-orders. If people want to do it, then there is nothing you can do to stop then.

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To the OP - I do hope that you live by your words, and buy every single game ever made. Because it wouldn’t be fair to support one group of developers and not another, right? They all have to put food on the table after all.

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I’ll be buying halo 5, but not pre ordering or buying it on release because of what happened with Halo MCC. And i’m probably gonna get it used, so my money won’t even end up going to 343 anyways. This will be the first halo I ever buy used and after it launches.

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Those guys get paid regardless. A decision not to buy is to not support the company. It’s a fine decision if that’s how you feel. The salaried employees shouldn’t change that.

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> Well, I’m a fan of Halo’s characters, sci-fi tech, enemies. It’s all very incredible. I don’t want to shell out 60 bucks for some military bro-fest with golden guns either. I want an adventure with well composed music. If you honestly think that Halo 5 is going to be bad, you have some really weird standards. Tell me when you find another Console shooter with a decently long campaign, equal starts, and reticles that make for accurate hipfiring. $60 is chump change, so I’d rather spend my change on something that took a lot of heart and soul, and not some annual money grabber. Halo is most certainly not some cash cow. It has a lot of lore that can still be covered.

What you’re describing is a game NOT made by 3v4 industries.<div>

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Halo 4: terrible audio work, terrible level design. Largely pretty, but graphics elements that reek of laziness. Near complete disregard for standing lore.</div><div>

</div><div>MCC: blatant disregard for craft with the parts 343 contributed on. Blatant cash grab.</div><div>

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You can’t tell me to stand by a developer that is unproven and competent conflicting the standards you just presented.</div>

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> To the OP - I do hope that you live by your words, and buy every single game ever made. Because it wouldn’t be fair to support one group of developers and not another, right? They all have to put food on the table after all.

Dude, I’m not saying that I’m buying the game for the sake of 343’s employees. I’m just saying that people shouldn’t pretend that 343 is the freakin dark lord of Hell. There *are plenty of innocent hard workers, and if they are delivering me my Classic enemies, vehicles, and expanding the Halo universe, I’m going to probably spend $60 on that without pretending that I’m going into bankruptcy.

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> > To the OP - I do hope that you live by your words, and buy every single game ever made. Because it wouldn’t be fair to support one group of developers and not another, right? They all have to put food on the table after all.
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> Dude, I’m not saying that I’m buying the game for the sake of 343’s employees. I’m just saying that people shouldn’t pretend that 343 is the freakin dark lord of Hell. There *are plenty of innocent hard workers, and if they are delivering me my Classic enemies, vehicles, and expanding the Halo universe, I’m going to probably spend $60 on that without pretending that I’m going into bankruptcy.

Nobody saying they’re the devil. You don’t get it. They’ve done a terrible job with the franchise, and if people want to express that opinion by not buying the game they certainly have a right to.

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> Nobody saying they’re the devil. You don’t get it. They’ve done a terrible job with the franchise, and if people want to express that opinion by not buying the game they certainly have a right to.

“Terrible” is a freakin exaggeration. Halo is the only franchise left that isn’t scripted up the -Yoink-, and has really neat looking environments. Halo 4 was very interesting to me, because I’ve always been interested in the forerunners. The mission structure wasn’t always the best, BUT it’s not as mind numbingly terrible as Bungies first Halo missions, such as Assault on the control room, Two betrayals, and the library. Granted, I absolutely live Halo CE, because it had an awe-inspiring setting and cool enemies. Halo 4 had a pretty cool setting, and cool enemies too. The animations were great. the cut scenes were entertaining, Cortana was more interesting than before. The Chief was more interesting than ever before, and the list goes on. If Halo 4 was terrible, than any other mainstream *console shooter must be dreadful. They tend to have shoddy writing, the same exact enemies with bland ai, and insanely scripted 5-6 hour campaigns.

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> “Terrible” is a freakin exaggeration. Halo is the only franchise left that isn’t scripted up the -Yoink-, and has really neat looking environments. Halo 4 was very interesting to me, because I’ve always been interested in the forerunners. The mission structure wasn’t always the best, BUT it’s not as mind numbingly terrible as Bungies first Halo missions, such as Assault on the control room, Two betrayals, and the library. Granted, I absolutely live Halo CE, because it had an awe-inspiring setting and cool enemies. Halo 4 had a pretty cool setting, and cool enemies too. The animations were great. the cut scenes were entertaining, Cortana was more interesting than before. The Chief was more interesting than ever before, and the list goes on. If Halo 4 was terrible, than any other mainstream *console shooter must be dreadful. They tend to have shoddy writing, the same exact enemies with bland ai, and insanely scripted 5-6 hour campaigns.

No, it’s not an exaggeration. I couldn’t care less about the campaign. They’ve taken competitive multi player (which is Halo’s calling card, as there are WAYYY more people in MM at any given time than playing campaign) and watered it down extensively.

Whether you like what they’ve done or not, plenty of people are upset with how they’ve handled multi player and match making, and they are entitled to their right not to support the Dev. Every company has hard working individuals. That doesn’t mean you can’t boycott products.

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You’re saying Halo 4 is good because it’s more exciting than a game made over a decade before it? <div>

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Gee high bar for 343.</div>

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> > > > Dude, I’m not saying that I’m buying the game for the sake of 343’s employees. I’m just saying that people shouldn’t pretend that 343 is the freakin dark lord of Hell. There *are plenty of innocent hard workers, and if they are delivering me my Classic enemies, vehicles, and expanding the Halo universe, I’m going to probably spend $60 on that without pretending that I’m going into bankruptcy.
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> > > Nobody saying they’re the devil. You don’t get it. They’ve done a terrible job with the franchise, and if people want to express that opinion by not buying the game they certainly have a right to.
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> No, it’s not an exaggeration. I couldn’t care less about the campaign. They’ve taken competitive multi player (which is Halo’s calling card, as there are WAYYY more people in MM at any given time) and watered it down extensively.
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> Whether you like what they’ve done or not, plenty of people are upset with how they’ve handled multi player and match making, and they are entitled to their right not to support the Dev. Every company has hard working individuals. That doesn’t mean you can’t boycott products.

Well, my logic is that Halo 5 is a hell of a lot more balanced than any other console shooter. Not only that, but it’s just fun to throw bouncy nades, 4 shot with BR’s, and slash people with energy swords. Even the almighty Bungies game Halo Reach wasn’t hated or boycotted like Halo 5, even though it was terribly unbalanced. Then, of course there are the other people playing COD and BF for the simply thrill of shooting their friends. If you ask me, Halo 5 is way more skill based than any Halo in years. I tend to do pretty decent in Halo 2A, 3, and 4, but I had a very difficult time getting good at Halo 5, because I wasn’t used to playing a Halo game where aim assist doesn’t hold my hand. Even in Halo 3 the bigshot who gets the power weapons can afford to run off on their own. In Halo 5, teamwork is key, and I appreciate that.

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> > > > > > To the OP - I do hope that you live by your words, and buy every single game ever made. Because it wouldn’t be fair to support one group of developers and not another, right? They all have to put food on the table after all.
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> > > > > Dude, I’m not saying that I’m buying the game for the sake of 343’s employees. I’m just saying that people shouldn’t pretend that 343 is the freakin dark lord of Hell. There *are plenty of innocent hard workers, and if they are delivering me my Classic enemies, vehicles, and expanding the Halo universe, I’m going to probably spend $60 on that without pretending that I’m going into bankruptcy.
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> > > > Nobody saying they’re the devil. You don’t get it. They’ve done a terrible job with the franchise, and if people want to express that opinion by not buying the game they certainly have a right to.
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> > > “Terrible” is a freakin exaggeration. Halo is the only franchise left that isn’t scripted up the -Yoink-, and has really neat looking environments. Halo 4 was very interesting to me, because I’ve always been interested in the forerunners. The mission structure wasn’t always the best, BUT it’s not as mind numbingly terrible as Bungies first Halo missions, such as Assault on the control room, Two betrayals, and the library. Granted, I absolutely live Halo CE, because it had an awe-inspiring setting and cool enemies. Halo 4 had a pretty cool setting, and cool enemies too. The animations were great. the cut scenes were entertaining, Cortana was more interesting than before. The Chief was more interesting than ever before, and the list goes on. If Halo 4 was terrible, than any other mainstream *console shooter must be dreadful. They tend to have shoddy writing, the same exact enemies with bland ai, and insanely scripted 5-6 hour campaigns.
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> Well, my logic is that Halo 5 is a hell of a lot more balanced than any other console shooter. Not only that, but it’s just fun to throw bouncy nades, 4 shot with BR’s, and slash people with energy swords. Even the almighty Bungies game Halo Reach wasn’t hated or boycotted like Halo 5, even though it was terribly unbalanced. Then, of course there are the other people playing COD and BF for the simply thrill of shooting their friends. If you ask me, Halo 5 is way more skill based than any Halo in years. I tend to do pretty decent in Halo 2A, 3, and 4, but I had a very difficult time getting good at Halo 5, because I wasn’t used to playing a Halo game where aim assist doesn’t hold my hand. Even in Halo 3 the bigshot who gets the power weapons can afford to run off on their own. In Halo 5, teamwork is key, and I appreciate that.

Reach wasn’t good either. I still hold it against bungie for implementing AAs and sprint.

As someone with skill, I can state that Halo 5 has the same watered down game play and lack of a skill gap that H4 does. It’s a poorly built game for competitive play, and I didn’t find the beta fun. Teamwork is just as key in previous Halos. When discussing mechanics of the game and “skill”, you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. That’s great that you have fun in the game, but from a competitive standpoint (and I believe I can speak for most if not all players that play Halo at a high level) I don’t support the directions 343 is taking the game.

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They are trying to appeal to beginners, and they are therefore not catering to me. I am not buying the game from them and I can not be convinced otherwise.

Halo 5 takes very little skill … I am very tired of explaining to people why you think the skill gap is higher and why it feels harder.

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> They are trying to appeal to beginners, and they are therefore not catering to me. I am not buying the game from them and I can not be convinced otherwise.

Then I suppose that your console shooter career is over. There are no other shooters in the foreseeable future that will have as high of a skill-gap as Halo 5.

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Hows about, no.

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> Dude, I’m not saying that I’m buying the game for the sake of 343’s employees. I’m just saying that people shouldn’t pretend that 343 is the freakin dark lord of Hell. There *are plenty of innocent hard workers, and if they are delivering me my Classic enemies, vehicles, and expanding the Halo universe, I’m going to probably spend $60 on that without pretending that I’m going into bankruptcy.

Well I don’t think they’re evil or anything. But I do think that they released an unfinished product, that clearly was not fit for release. They would have been well aware of any deadlines set by Microsoft, so that’s no excuse either.

A company is only as good as their last product to me. And Halo MCC is the last thing I bought off 343, and unless they actually deliver what they promised, I won’t be doing business with them again. I believe in voting with my feet, and want to see an end to developers releasing games that aren’t even fit for beta testing.

Although even if MCC eventually becomes great, I still may not buy Halo 5. I played the beta and didn’t think it was very good tbh. Maybe the finished game will be better, I may try the demo if one comes out.