Title Update Discussion

Everyone who is saying to remove Bloom needs to rethink that opinion. Bloom can be tweaked to allow better gameplay that rewards the better pacer aka the better shooter. With increase movement speed and jump height, strafing will come back into play and gameplay will be at its best. Bloom is here to stay and 343i knows what they should do with it.

Especially on the DMR. It will actually let players fall to their own faults if they do not take the time to make sure every single shot is precise and paced correctly which will make gameplay with the DMR soooo much better than having the Bloom removed completely and it becoming what the Battle Rifle once was. It will be much better this way only if 343i can find the correct algorithm for the DMR’s Bloom and find a perfect Bloom mechanic for precision, with zero reward to spammers.

> Just remove bloom from both weapons.
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> I want faster-paced gameplay out of Reach.

This. LOTS of this…

Remove the Bloom, it’s that simple. Why was this atrocious bloom process installed into the Halo universe

> I love bloom, armor abilities, and all the hard work Bungie put into Reach.
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> These are not things that need to be changed. These are all part of the overall sandbox that is Reach.
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> I believe in 343i, I know they won’t mess with the fundamentals of Reach because they were very careful about what they are changing with Halo CEA for the same reason. I doubt they would listen to the random screaming people on their forums as opposed to the vast majority playing Reach.
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> Some of the threads on here are so disrespectful and just plain rude towards Bungie and 343i. :
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> ~Hyokin

Just because people are playing Reach doesn’t mean they think it is completely perfect, and this forum is where 343 can get feedback, which is what they are doing for the TU.

Here are my patch suggestions for 343.

Overshield needs to be visible like it was in Halo 2/3.

Theater should be patched to allow more than 1 player to watch films together in the same lobby.

Individual weapon damage option allowing you to customize each weapons individual weapon damage, No Bleed Through toggle On/Off & Bloom toggle On/Off.

Grenades need to be weakened a little bit & the fuse needs to be longer.

Make the Assist system more like the previous Halos the current system in Reach is a horrible Assist system.

Option to customize AA traits because when you change the movement speed it breaks AAs like Sprint & Evade.

Add a 115% movement speed 110% is too slow & 120% is too slippery.

Bring ranked playlists back along with the 1-50 levels.

I think the overshield is fine because when someone picks it up, they leave a flaming trail behind them. Its very noticable when someone has OV. It just might take some getting used to.

> Here they are:
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> 1) Bring back Party Viewing!!! No one cared that it lagged, it was a great feature.
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> 2) Fix the third person camera to make it like Halo 3’s
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> 3) A more organized system for viewing clips
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> 4) Bungie Pro/Waypoint Exporting Options

It annoys me to no end that you can no longer watch films with your friends. That was about the only reason I used the feature in Halo 3. Otherwise, you’re sitting there watching a film by yourself feeling ronery.

Feels bad man.

Can they even fix that in a TU?

> I think the overshield is fine because when someone picks it up, they leave a flaming trail behind them. Its very noticable when someone has OV. It just might take some getting used to.

I don’t like the flame trail to be honest.

Party Viewing only lagged when you would watch film clips together it was fine when you watched normal films together please add party support for Theater 343.

> when someone picks it up, they leave a flaming trail behind them.

I thought it was a mod the first time I saw it, as did my friends. lol

Assists should be 30% not 40%.
Armour lock needs to only last 1 or 2 seconds instead of 7.
The following weapons need a buff: AR, Plasma Repeater, Focus Rifle, Plasma Launcher and Needler.
Give grenades Halo 1 physics and detonation times.

^ I agree with all of that except the AR needing a buff.

I really just wanted to thank 343 for listening to what the community has been saying these past 9 months about Halo Reach. I know you will do us justice.

BTW did anyone else here the Grunt Birthday YAY! when you seen the update news? Thanks again guys.

Okay here is my list

  • Totally remove the current “arena” rank system and get a number rank for every competitive playlist like halo 3 but more like halo 2 tank system

*Bloom need’s a toggle on/off

*The number of game engine glitches (Magical speed pads, Bull-True From the Grave ect.)

*Toggle Assassination’s

*Remove alot of playlist’s and put them into others playlists the community is too spread out

*Decrease the damage done by grenades

*Able to select Elite in any playlist if player chooses that race and make the elites as powerful as they were in the beta!

*Bring back invasion colour fire teams like the beta, as well as being able to see all your team mates!

This is all I can think of for now.

TSA jpicard

I hope its not just a filetype change just like how it was for H3…

Bloom shouldn’t be removed, just tweaked.
If we removed bloom, a spammer would have the same accuracy as a pacer.

If bloom is removed (which I hope it is), the needle rifle needs to be nerfed where you can’t just hold the trigger down for fast shots.

> Bloom shouldn’t be removed, just tweaked.
> If we removed bloom, a spammer would have the same accuracy as a pacer.

No, that’s when actual aiming skill comes in.

Removing bloom would do wonders to bring real shooting skill back rather than the luck-based system we currently have.

That said, the only reason bloom is so bad right now is because Bungie did such a horrible job with bloom in the first place. They made it so shots could land in the center, or around the center, of a fully blown reticle. If bloom was altered so that spamming awarded no shots in the center, but only around the edges of a fully blown reticle, then bloom would not be a problem…Because spammers would never win by luck.

> > Bloom shouldn’t be removed, just tweaked.
> > If we removed bloom, a spammer would have the same accuracy as a pacer.
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> No, that’s when actual aiming skill comes in.
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> Removing bloom would do wonders to bring real shooting skill back rather than the luck-based system we currently have.
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> That said, the only reason bloom is so bad right now is because Bungie did such a horrible job with bloom in the first place. They made it so shots could land in the center, or around the center, of a fully blown reticle. If bloom was altered so that spamming awarded no shots in the center, but only around the edges of a fully blown reticle, then bloom would not be a problem…Because spammers would never win by luck.

This guy speaks the truth.

I am curious :slight_smile: