Title Update Discussion

To be honest, I don’t care if people don’t come back. I still think changes are needed for the loyal people who still play this game everyday.

"I can adapt to a broken window, I just get used to the cold. But you can’t ignore that the window is broken"

I really hope that 343 will put there 10pence in. Hopefully comment on the situation of a title update soon.

Oh just for the record.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=56163577&postRepeater1-p=1

That’s a lot of “yes”.

fix bloom please, kill times are too long causing players to spam to finish kill which result in random kills. i would prefer if the bloom was removed and halo was restored to the was it was in the good old days of CE. fixed reticle and perfectly accurate shots (obviously accounting for online networking conditions)

also no bleed through needs to go. close range combat people to just sprinting and meleeing. the slow kill times mentioned previously mean that 5 shotting someone sprinting towards you for the double beatdown is too difficult.

405 votes since OVER a month ago?

We’re talking about hundreds of thousands of players who log in and play every day… and you want Bungie/343 to spend Employee-Work-Hours ON a TU to satisfy just over 400 hundred players who were unhappy with their bloom in the last month?

I bet they can barely break even on a map pack, why spend time and money to change a game for people who already quit or for people who can currently play the game as is?

Especially when AL and Bloom are CLEARLY working as intended.

If anything this poll should highlight to you how the community is going to re-act when they wake up to your TU.

If you think 404 people who log on to the B.net so they can whine about the game is a lot now, wait until you piss off the thousands of people who play the game but don’t whine about it as is.

please fix the bloom issues in the game encounters are random and too drawn out. players are not rewarded for perfect aim but for lucky spamming of shots

also no bleed through has to go. sprint beatdowns are stupid, this is a shooter not a fighter

Like moths to the flame…

Weapons: Tone down the bullet magnetism on some weapons. In SWAT, I’ll get headshots for shooting near the enemy’s head. Reduce the damage dealt on vehicles when shot by the DMR or Sniper Rifle. Set a fixed rate of fire for long-range weapons, making them not as useful at close-quarters. (Questioning This One): For the Magnum, remove bloom, however, keep it accurate, but random enough to make it useless at long range. Tone down the bloom on the Plasma Repeater.

Vehicles: Nerf the Banshee Bomb and/or increase the damage of the plasma fire. Make evading eat the boost bar. (1/4 each use).

Spartans: Perhaps make a 3-melee kill. Increase movement speed to 110%.
Elites: In Elite-only game types, increase the base damage of all weapons to 110%.

Grenades: I have yet to see reasoning in the upgraded blast radius. The Halo: 3 grenades worked perfectly as tactical shield poppers.

If you disagree with anything stated above, please respond in an orderly manner.

> Like moths to the flame…

I think you’re just a troll. Ignore, move on.

There are plenty more online who want change, people who cannot be bothered to log onto a forum. It’s to do with Ratio than numbers.

> > > And before you tell me that “I can’t prove anything”, stop saying the majority like these mechanics., because you can’t prove it either.
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> > Hey, there are plenty of mechanics I don’t like, but I don’t go posting in threads everyday telling people how I think changing something is going to bring hundreds of thousands of Reach quitters back.
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> > I don’t like that the RL locks on to somethings and not others, I don’t like the recharge rate on the Banshee’s FRG, I don’t like that every game of FF devolves into FRG FF.
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> > These aren’t BS game mechanics any more than Bloom or AL. They’re just things that annoy me. Fine, I’ll deal with them, and keep playing the video game.
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> > But you take this as an affront on your religion. It’s like Church to you… Your Sunday Mass numbers are down, ZOMG, What can we do to reverse it? AL AND BLOOM CHANGES will bring the people back!!!
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> > Change like this will only prove 343 doesn’t have enough spine to keep the faith.
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No Coca, THIS is a troll.

I can see that this thread has degraded into a Flame war, trollfest.

Think the mods needs to lock it.

> Think the mods needs to lock it.

I’ve been saying that for days now.

So any idea when this patch is hitting us?

Looks like the children that got banned from the Bungie forums have found the Halo Waypoint forums - bravo!

> So any idea when this patch is hitting us?

Who ever said there was going to be a patch? All that has been done for us so far are minor gameplay adjustments and playlist additions. I’ve lost hope.

> > So any idea when this patch is hitting us?
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> Who ever said there was going to be a patch? All that has been done for us so far are minor gameplay adjustments and playlist additions. I’ve lost hope.

O.O!!!

Are you serious? You can’t be. You’re telling me 343 nor anyone else is NOT patching Reach?

Imma go ahead and write you of as a troll…lol. That would suck so bad.

> > > > I think you suffer from fanboy syndrome and can’t admit when a game needs tweaking.
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> > > Really? Cause I would say fanboy syndrome is when you whine incessantly about a video game you claim is unplayable, yet you continue to play it.
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> > > Reach is fine as is and does NOT need a fix 343i.
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> > > Lock this thread and move on, before this turns into the next Bungie Forums.
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> > how can you say this game don’t need a TU? Do you really think it’s perfect?
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> > Stats speaks for itself, Reach has a low population compare to previous halo game. And part of this are due to:
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> > - AA as loadout
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> > - Ranking system and that your rank mean nothing else than you just play the game a lot
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> > - Lack of good maps (for me, this problem is partially solve with the Noble Map Pack and the upcoming Defiant Map Pack)
> > - Vehicule combat
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> > And I don’t think this game is unplayable, but as I love Halo and Reach, I think this game can be better. And it will come with a fix and a TU. Hopefully, 343i is listening.
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> I could just as well make the statement that People aren’t playing Reach because their pets all have kidney disorders which make them have to clean their carpets more instead of play a video game.
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> It’s probably not true, but it’s backed with about as much fact as “people don’t play Reach cause they don’t like bloom or AL”.
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> Here’s what’s going to happen if 343i patches Reach per your and every other whiners request:
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> of 100% of players right now, population of current players will drop another 30% with people fed up that they can no longer play this game the way they used to. And MAYBE… if you’re REALLY lucky, 5% of people who quit because they didn’t like bloom/AL/Sage’s beard, will come back.
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> Congrats, you just got yourself your Title Update you’ve always wanted, AND LOST 25% more of Reach’s population!
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> I’m telling you 343, do not touch the code in this game. No good can come of it.

so, you’re assuming that if 343 patch the game, Reach population will decrease by 25%? Ok. And if I say the population will increase by 40% (I telling that for example, I don’t know but I’m giving a number as you did)

And yes, stats explain something. Why do you think there is more than 100k people playing H3? Why people left Halo for B.O?

No, this game need a patch. Bloom just involve luck as a factor for a kill. I never ask to remove it but they have to do something. AL: a 6 seconds survey button.

So you’re assuming this game is perfect and the population can’t be better, ok. Great. And I assume you think this game (bloom, AL) are more skilled than before, and people who actually play the game are okay with everything and don’t want this game to be improve.

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> If those numbers were people leaving because of bloom and Armor Lock you MIGHT have a point.
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> A.) You can’t prove that.
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> B.) Even if they did leave because of that, who would want to bring them back?
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> I love to have fun, competitive games with skilled players.
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> I do not enjoy mopping up n00b’s who can’t manage their bloom, or stand on my AL. Going +Double digits maybe your idea of fun, but it is not mine.
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> IF what you’re saying is true, then they quit because they couldn’t hack it. In which case, I didn’t want to play with them anyway.

And you have proof that all players love (or accept) AL, Bloom, Melee system?

No. And the population is still decreasing, and a lot more when in the BWU, Urk state that they will not change the game. That’s a fact.

> Fix the Gauss hog glitch on Forgeworld.
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> Do not touch anything else.
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> Bloom and AL are fine.
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> In the words of Johnson: “Deal with it!”

yep, deal with the luck involved by the dmr bloom. It’s absolutely awesome to have to pace shots and be killed by spammers.

It’s fine to see an entire team go into AL. That’s require so much skill …

> More DMR Bloom but with faster reset and less NR bloom with faster reset. Make Magnum have much faster reset but the same bloom
> Remove DMR’s ability to destroy vehicles
> Nerf Banshee Bomb and Buff Banshee Plasma Cannons
> Return Vehicle Damage back to Halo 3 version
> Remove Sniper’s ability to destroy vehicles
> Buff Splaser (One Shot Kill on everything)
> Nerf Grenades back to H3 strength and make them more bouncy
> Get rid of AL EMP entirely and lower usage time to 3 seconds
> Make hologram take at least 3 AR bullets, always show up as an enemy and never flicker
> Buff movement speed to 110% by default
> Edit: Oh and fix the Gauss Glitch

YES YES YES.

I’ll be vague this time around.

  • Speed up gameplay.
  • Fix all bugs.
  • Balance weapons and vehicles.
  • Fix framerate issues.
  • Fix custom games options.

I can’t really pretend I know how every Halo fan feels about Reach like everyone else but I would like to get one thing straight, no matter how good Reach could have come out, the population being 800k at any given time of the day like in Reach’s early days would have been an impossibility for Reach this late in it’s life.

Launch and the following holiday season is the high point for console game communities. This is when most people just got the game and have the most time for it. No matter how good the game is the bulk of players leave due to not being interested in games enough to play a single one on a daily, weekly or even monthly basis. Another thing about console gamers is they generally go from one big title to the next. And finally, Reach has a ton of competition. Namely Call of Duty which is the most popular game series now. Yes, it was around during Halo 3 but it’s only picked up more steam since.

Halo 3 nor Halo 2 kept 800k player at any given time of the day for very long at all. Reach is doing better than Halo 2. Halo 3, not quite although Bungie has claimed that the player counter is more accurate on Reach than it was in Halo 3. It’s entirely possible Reach could be more popular or at least not far behind. Either way Reach’s population isn’t bad. Usually around 600-700k within the span of 24hrs on weekdays and 800k on weekend days. It’s the most popular game that isn’t Call of Duty on the xbox. It’s more than a respectable number.

To the user saying that a patch could lose players, thats possible. But the updates in Halo 3 didn’t seem to negatively impact it. Theres no denying there are alot of unpleased Halo fans. I personally don’t know anyone who isn’t disapointed by it a little. I don’t think the game is broken but if 343 feels that an update can make fans happy then I support em in at least trying rather than sitting on their hands being too scared to try anything.

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a good replacement for the br, the dmr right now isn’t.
better ranked playlist
bleedthrough
faster movement
higher jumping
nerf the grenades

No Bleed option toggle.

Faster bloom reset on DMR.

Return of H:R beta pistol.

Reduction in bullet magnetism.