Title Update Discussion

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You do realize that not everyone will have perfect 10/10 aim, right? Spammers will be even worse because those players relied on randomness of the bloom to get kills.

They better buff the 3 core Covy weapons (Repeater/Rifle, Needler, Plasma Pistol) or the Elites are going to be totally screwed in Invasion and Invasion slayer. Actually most of the covy sandbox sans maybe concussion rifle and Fuel Rod Gun could use a buff. I imagine the N’ifle would get the same treatment as the DMR.

> People need to pay attention. The play lists will be seperated so they have both classic feel and Reach feel … Doesn’t matter …

SOME PEOPLE NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION, BECAUSE THAT’S NOT WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT

I guess I should clarify my question…

What does “Universally Popular” mean?

It’s like Miss Universe, blatantly bias. :smiley: At best, she’s Miss Dirt, I mean Miss Earth.

I know you can play classic reach as well.But I would rather they fixed the bloom instead of remove it on anniversary and leave it broken on reach.Session data

> > Infection is an extreme example for good reason.
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> > It’s where you have this popular Halo playmode where people pick on a mechanic like swordblock because there’s a TON of sword play there, more than any other playlist.
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> > Now lets say you remove swordblock from Living Dead, and the population goes up…
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> > That doesn’t mean removing swordblock is a good idea for Invasion.
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> > Different Frogs, Different Times.
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> > What we’re being told now though is that if these changes are deemed “popular” they could be rolled out to the rest of Reach.
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> > Now it’s: Different Frogs, All the same times.
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> > Well I like mine medium rare tyvm.
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> 343i will weigh the balance of what is popular and what is best for gameplay reasons. Being competitive and being entertaining are also not the same thing. Much like quality does not equal popularity. If anything, most of us consider “pop” music distasteful (not all gamers, just a lot), and yet it is just that, popular and crappy :wink: And of course, opinion. The popular music is catered to those that buy popular music.
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> Remember, they’re not about removing choice if they don’t have to. But if popularity dictates that some choices be narrowed while others be broadened, that is how she goes.

I guess I’m calling into question their judgement of what’s popular. It’s one thing to spoon feed a couple of whiners with their own playlist of changes.

It’s something else to suggest that what is considered niche game play by most Reach players is something that can be Universally applied.

> I would hate to sword-blocked removed as it fits into both real-fiction (oxymoron for the win baby!!)

Well played sir, but honestly, this is less about mechanics and more about 343 catering.

Apparently you only need to be loud and obnoxious about what you want in Halo to get it.

> You can still play classic Reach.

> > > Sword Block needs to be removed not just because it’s a problem in Living Dead. It’s a problem across all gametypes.
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> > QFT
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> So this is what we can expect now through the H4 release date?
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> 343 takes a dump on Halo Reach every time a player whines about something they don’t like until we’re a dozen TU’s down the road and Reach doesn’t have any semblance of Bungie’s Swan Song at all?
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> C’mon…

Whine? no, the word of would criticise. Many many people disliked Bloom and expressed their view on every Halo related Forum. I’m glad 343i listened and gave a damn about their fans. They wouldn’t implement something in a TU unless they’ve experimented with it.

> You can still play classic Reach.

> I’m Not dissatisfied. Im just worried. With the DMR buff, what will happen to the other weapons, Will they not need a buff also.
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> 1 - DMR needs a nerf to counteract the buff… It Needs RECOIL.
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> But i don’t have the Update so i can’t say anything yet.

Your a Spartan that can flip Scorpion Tanks and Warthogs… Recoil would make no sense because it just contradicts the whole superhuman aspect of a Spartan

> > I’m Not dissatisfied. Im just worried. With the DMR buff, what will happen to the other weapons, Will they not need a buff also.
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> > 1 - DMR needs a nerf to counteract the buff… It Needs RECOIL.
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> > But i don’t have the Update so i can’t say anything yet.
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> Your a Spartan that can flip Scorpion Tanks and Warthogs… Recoil would make no sense because it just contradicts the whole superhuman aspect of a Spartan

exactly

> I’m Not dissatisfied. Im just worried.

You’re seriously going to worry about a video game change that won’t happen for 3 months?

Frankie said he would move out the changes to other playlists. That doesn’t mean EVERY SINGLE playlist there is. Just a couple more. They’ll still be regular Reach playlists.

> And OP: Frankie said he would move out the changes to other playlists. That doesn’t mean EVERY SINGLE playlist there is. Just a couple more. They’ll still be regular Reach playlists.

I would like to agree with you on that, except it looks like your and my definition of “Universal” is different than Frankie’s.

guys it will just be no bloom in classic.

Since the DMR is now shooting at full steam with no bloom, does this mean the NR will be able to fire full auto without bloom as well?

Uh oh

> guys it will just be no bloom in classic.

Forever and ever? You promise?

> Since the DMR is now shooting at full steam with no bloom, does this mean the NR will be able to fire full auto without bloom as well?
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> Uh oh

A great question.

After all, the NR is NOT a classic weapon, so I’m not sure what it would be doing on the classic playlist… But then again, Halo CE didn’t have a long rifle such as the BR or DMR… So why did bloom need to be changed on the DMR at all if the change is only for the Classic playlist?

Well, other than you’re totally ignoring the guy’s point: Default Reach is untouched.

Frankie said that if they’re UNIVERSALLY LOVED. That means both you and I (I hate bloom, the devil’d thing) must like a decision, and almost EVERYONE has to get behind it. The reason they took out Bloom for Classic is because it was the right thing to do for that particular gameplay style.

Frankie has also said that preserving the core Reach functionality is very important to 343 during this time of Title Updates and Anniversaries. He would not simply turn his back on the core Reach fans, because he and 343 understand the importance of appealing to both the old-school and the new-wave (Classic and Reach).

Maybe you should think a little harder before going to extremes. You’re presenting the TU like it’s some kind of loyalty test, when it’s nothing but a choice. If you want to play Classic, play Classic. If you want to play Reach, play Reach. It’s really just about that simple. 343 has, so far, rated forum and community feedback higher than playlist data and numbers…So I think it’s fair to say that they won’t simply shove no-bloom gametypes into Default Reach should the Classic playlists gain a lot of popularity.

Think. Think, think, think, THINK before you post.