Title Update Discussion

> My guess is that they will fix what the community wants changed most. I’m sick of reach too. Bungie won’t admit that Reach was their biggest failure. They just keep talking about how amazing armour lock is and that Reach was their best game ever! Here is what I think are the most likely think will be in the TU since the community wants it to happen.
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> 1.Removal of bloom.
> 2.Removal or tweaking to armour abilities.
> 3.Return of bleedthrough damage.
> 4.Addition of a trueskill system.
> 5.Mobility increased.
> 6.Faster kill times.
> 7.Making Reach multiplayer not suck.

Halo Reach uses Trueskill, even though it doenst use the 1 thru 50 rank… it uses trueskill for the divisional ranking ( as well as showing where you are in each division compared to others in your division ) … most games use trueskill… COD does too… All halo’s uses trueskill… except Halo 2…which is why it was so hard to rank above mid 30’s in H2 without cheating…

> It’s not going to happen for Reach. We can hope for it to be in Halo 4 though and voice our opinions, whatever they may be. :slight_smile:

I think you’re wrong… Halo Reach multiplayer will improve with the Title update… i beleive users will have the option to choose playlist to their liking as well as minor fixes to bloom, removal of fall damage, etc across the boards

What is the purpose of the Title Update and when will it happen?

This should get you you started.
http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/news/headline/the-halo-bulletin-62811/85728

I can’t believe that it would be over a year for them to fix the broken things=,way to go bungie/343 you guy’s could have worked together to fix these earlier this year before bungie was gone.Session data

> I can’t believe that it would be over a year for them to fix the broken things=,way to go bungie/343 you guy’s could have worked together to fix these earlier this year before bungie was gone.Session data

Both of them couldn’t do anything. Bungie was not allowed to since they didn’t had the rights to make a TU. They could only update matchmaking playlists. While 343i couldn’t do it since they also didn’t have the rights or complete control of the title. August 2 was when 343i had full ownership of the Halo title from Bungie.

> > I can’t believe that it would be over a year for them to fix the broken things=,way to go bungie/343 you guy’s could have worked together to fix these earlier this year before bungie was gone.Session data
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> Both of them couldn’t do anything. Bungie was not allowed to since they didn’t had the rights to make a TU. They could only update matchmaking playlists. While 343i couldn’t do it since they also didn’t have the rights or complete control of the title. August 2 was when 343i had full ownership of the Halo title from Bungie.

Blame stosh… oh wait. Miss b.net :frowning:

Blame Microsoft.

yep, they got rid of armorlock in a lot of game types and you know what happens now? crap loads of vehicle -Yoink!- and absolutely no way to counter it. it’s practically broken some gametypes and some btb maps

> yep, they got rid of armorlock in a lot of game types and you know what happens now? crap loads of vehicle -Yoink!- and absolutely no way to counter it. it’s practically broken some gametypes and some btb maps

You want to know how to counter it? Don’t go in the open, and use vehicles yourself.

Armor lock wouldn’t have fixed this.

I posted this on the Reach forums but I forgot wrong forum…

I don’t care if 343 is already working on the TU which I know they already are, but I’m throwing it my thoughts while I can.

Remove the psyche profile or fix it. Chattiness shouldn’t include people in party chat and Teamwork shouldn’t match me up with players who don’t know what they are doing. The other 2 options work fine.

For the love of Halo, PLEASE 343 FIX the trueskill system. What I’m talking about is I should be matched up in matchmaking who are equal to my skill, not a full party of Nova’s and such who outrank me by a longshot. Match those in a party with another party and those who go solo with those who go solo.

Fix Armor Lock or combine it with the Dropshield. What I mean by this is remove the emp, the frosting effect and the invincibility and combine the rest with Dropshield. If that can’t be done, nerf it so it cannot be abused and used for everything. It’s main purpose was to protect against splatters and explosive weaponary. KEEP IT THAT WAY!!

Fix the lack of default maps in BTB. It’s getting bored playing more community maps then built in maps. Create a playlist specifically for the community maps. Also remove Utopia from BTB. It’s a horribly failed attempt to modify Paradiso…

Make a some heavy map variants . It was loved in Halo 3 and I wouldn’t mind seeing the Guass Hog in matchmaking as long as it gets fixed to where the turret can’t shoot through 10 damn walls.

There is an Official Feedback thread that you can post this in as well. It is monitored by 343. I am not saying you can’t post this here just letting you know.

Official Feedback Thread Link

> I posted this on the Reach forums but I forgot wrong forum…
>
> I don’t care if 343 is already working on the TU which I know they already are, but I’m throwing it my thoughts while I can.
>
> Remove the psyche profile or fix it. Chattiness shouldn’t include people in party chat and Teamwork shouldn’t match me up with players who don’t know what they are doing. The other 2 options work fine.
>
> For the love of Halo, PLEASE 343 FIX the trueskill system. What I’m talking about is I should be matched up in matchmaking who are equal to my skill, not a full party of Nova’s and such who outrank me by a longshot. Match those in a party with another party and those who go solo with those who go solo.
>
> Fix Armor Lock or combine it with the Dropshield. What I mean by this is remove the emp, the frosting effect and the invincibility and combine the rest with Dropshield. If that can’t be done, nerf it so it cannot be abused and used for everything. It’s main purpose was to protect against splatters and explosive weaponary. KEEP IT THAT WAY!!
>
> Fix the lack of default maps in BTB. It’s getting bored playing more community maps then built in maps. Create a playlist specifically for the community maps. Also remove Utopia from BTB. It’s a horribly failed attempt to modify Paradiso…
>
> Make a some heavy map variants . It was loved in Halo 3 and I wouldn’t mind seeing the Guass Hog in matchmaking as long as it gets fixed to where the turret can’t shoot through 10 damn walls.

Didn’t even known Reach uses TrueSkill, thought it was random matching other than The Arena?

> I posted this on the Reach forums but I forgot wrong forum…
>
> I don’t care if 343 is already working on the TU which I know they already are, but I’m throwing it my thoughts while I can.
>
> Remove the psyche profile or fix it. Chattiness shouldn’t include people in party chat and Teamwork shouldn’t match me up with players who don’t know what they are doing. The other 2 options work fine.
>
> For the love of Halo, PLEASE 343 FIX the trueskill system. What I’m talking about is I should be matched up in matchmaking who are equal to my skill, not a full party of Nova’s and such who outrank me by a longshot. Match those in a party with another party and those who go solo with those who go solo.
>
> Fix Armor Lock or combine it with the Dropshield. What I mean by this is remove the emp, the frosting effect and the invincibility and combine the rest with Dropshield. If that can’t be done, nerf it so it cannot be abused and used for everything. It’s main purpose was to protect against splatters and explosive weaponary. KEEP IT THAT WAY!!
>
> Fix the lack of default maps in BTB. It’s getting bored playing more community maps then built in maps. Create a playlist specifically for the community maps. Also remove Utopia from BTB. It’s a horribly failed attempt to modify Paradiso…
>
> Make a some heavy map variants . It was loved in Halo 3 and I wouldn’t mind seeing the Guass Hog in matchmaking as long as it gets fixed to where the turret can’t shoot through 10 damn walls.

Dunno what to say about psyche profile, I never used it so I could find a match as quickly as possible. I only play with friends, anyway, so it doesn’t matter to me.

The trueskill I believe only works in The Arena, I think. Due to the lack of popularity, the population is low there, thus it takes for ever to match with someone or matches you with others higher, or lower skill. It works as intended, there’s just not enough people playing for it to work properly. People are too fixated on wanting a silly little number next to them.

Armor Lock works as it should. Hell, even the AI armor lock themselves when I’m about to splatter them. Seriously, it’s happened where I died because a Brute Armor Locked on me. Armor Lock is NOT changing. Deal with it.

I’m pretty sure 343i will be working on playlists, and I certainly do hope for big team heavy type maps. Was pretty fun in H3. And yeah, I do hope they fix the Guass Hog glitch. No way should that happen.

This is all we (well most of us) are asking. Anything else you can make it how you want but we need the old halo feel and it needs to be competitive. You never get that same rush or feeling if its not competitive.

> > I posted this on the Reach forums but I forgot wrong forum…
> >
> > I don’t care if 343 is already working on the TU which I know they already are, but I’m throwing it my thoughts while I can.
> >
> > Remove the psyche profile or fix it. Chattiness shouldn’t include people in party chat and Teamwork shouldn’t match me up with players who don’t know what they are doing. The other 2 options work fine.
> >
> > For the love of Halo, PLEASE 343 FIX the trueskill system. What I’m talking about is I should be matched up in matchmaking who are equal to my skill, not a full party of Nova’s and such who outrank me by a longshot. Match those in a party with another party and those who go solo with those who go solo.
> >
> > Fix Armor Lock or combine it with the Dropshield. What I mean by this is remove the emp, the frosting effect and the invincibility and combine the rest with Dropshield. If that can’t be done, nerf it so it cannot be abused and used for everything. It’s main purpose was to protect against splatters and explosive weaponary. KEEP IT THAT WAY!!
> >
> > Fix the lack of default maps in BTB. It’s getting bored playing more community maps then built in maps. Create a playlist specifically for the community maps. Also remove Utopia from BTB. It’s a horribly failed attempt to modify Paradiso…
> >
> > Make a some heavy map variants . It was loved in Halo 3 and I wouldn’t mind seeing the Guass Hog in matchmaking as long as it gets fixed to where the turret can’t shoot through 10 damn walls.
>
> Dunno what to say about psyche profile, I never used it so I could find a match as quickly as possible. I only play with friends, anyway, so it doesn’t matter to me.
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> The trueskill I believe only works in The Arena, I think. Due to the lack of popularity, the population is low there, thus it takes for ever to match with someone or matches you with others higher, or lower skill. It works as intended, there’s just not enough people playing for it to work properly. People are too fixated on wanting a silly little number next to them.
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> Armor Lock works as it should. Hell, even the AI armor lock themselves when I’m about to splatter them. Seriously, it’s happened where I died because a Brute Armor Locked on me. Armor Lock is NOT changing. Deal with it.
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> I’m pretty sure 343i will be working on playlists, and I certainly do hope for big team heavy type maps. Was pretty fun in H3. And yeah, I do hope they fix the Guass Hog glitch. No way should that happen.

Armor Lock works as it should? Are you kidding me? People use the damn AA to protect themselves against DMR fire!!! People use AL for the wrong crap and you are saying it works as it should? It’s a second chance weapon for people who abuse the thing because it IS getting abused like mad!!!

Please allow us to be able to equip any attachment on any helmet. There are multiple reasons why this is possible.

  1. All the attachments, diregarding any helmet they are attached to, are at the same exact height and position on all the player models

  2. The random spartan bodies in Lone Wolf have helmets with currently-unavailable attachments. This means dead spartan corpses with these attachments are possible

  3. Somtimes in the final cutscene of Lone Wolf, the player is seen as a white spartan even if their chose armor is not white. The helmet sometimes has different attachments on it that are still not available

Thank you,

MFROG5

I think when the update comes out we just need new armor all together. Especially armor that you unlock in the high ranks (field marshall through inheritor). It would definitely be possible too if all the armor comes out in the TU (and not Anniversary) because everyone has to download the update to play, and therefore everyone has the new armor.

> Please allow us to be able to equip any attachment on any helmet. There are multiple reasons why this is possible.
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> 1) All the attachments, diregarding any helmet they are attached to, are at the same exact height and position on all the player models
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> 2) The random spartan bodies in Lone Wolf have helmets with currently-unavailable attachments. This means dead spartan corpses with these attachments are possible
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> 3) Somtimes in the final cutscene of Lone Wolf, the player is seen as a white spartan even if their chose armor is not white. The helmet sometimes has different attachments on it that are still not available
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> Thank you,
>
> MFROG5

Agree, or atleast the ones on the beta.
EDIT: I just started the beta, CNM (Mark V B), UA (CQC) helmet variants, MP/Base security and Assault/Scout (Chest pieces without grenades) are not in the final game.
Salu2.

Just make Reach competitve again and re balance it.

Tweak Bloom and bring back True skill.
Remove AA’s

Once again.
You guys really dont understand what a title update is do you?
Its not for adding stuff. Its for fixing glitches and core aspects of gameplay that people hate.
Halo reach is a small exception, but they wont be messing with new armor or anything most likely.