Title Update and Ranking System Questions

1.) I heard about the videos with no bloom and stuff like jump height like Halo 1-3. But when 343 make a real news WHAT will change exactly? It’s all some weird.
2.) When they change it. They should make a statement. It’s just hard to know not much about their plans!
3.) What will be on the first of next month? The arena season is over soon. Will they put a new season in? Not really? Arena is just a joke. So I will think they gonna put some new ranking system in like H2 and 3? Questions over Questions.

> 1.) I heard about the videos with no bloom and stuff like jump height like Halo 1-3. But when 343 make a real news WHAT will change exactly? It’s all some weird.
> 2.) When they change it. They should make a statement. It’s just hard to know not much about their plans!
> 3.) What will be on the first of next month? The arena season is over soon. Will they put a new season in? Not really? Arena is just a joke. So I will think they gonna put some new ranking system in like H2 and 3? Questions over Questions.

1.) They have confirmed the CE Magnum, bloomless precision weapons and melee bleedthrough.
2.)They will most likely release something explaining fully the TU changes.
3.)The 1-50 system was way more flawed than Arena.

BTW, is english your first language? Not flaming, just wondering.

> > 1.) I heard about the videos with no bloom and stuff like jump height like Halo 1-3. But when 343 make a real news WHAT will change exactly? It’s all some weird.
> > 2.) When they change it. They should make a statement. It’s just hard to know not much about their plans!
> > 3.) What will be on the first of next month? The arena season is over soon. Will they put a new season in? Not really? Arena is just a joke. So I will think they gonna put some new ranking system in like H2 and 3? Questions over Questions.
>
> 1.) They have confirmed the CE Magnum, bloomless precision weapons and melee bleedthrough.
> 2.)They will most likely release something explaining fully the TU changes.
> 3.)The 1-50 system was way more flawed than Arena.
>
> BTW, is english your first language? Not flaming, just wondering.

1.) Please send me the link where they confirmed it on a written news!
2.) Yeah I know they will do it but they can still do it now after Halo Fest!
3.) The 1-50 system from Halo 2 was nice. They should add it after this arena season. It’s not a hard work to do it for them, maybe some hours. I could post so many negative aspects of arena but my list would be to big for this page.
And to your question: wow you’re a real beast of knowledge :slight_smile: yes you’re right english isn’t my first language. german is my first language but I always try my best at english.

> > > 1.) I heard about the videos with no bloom and stuff like jump height like Halo 1-3. But when 343 make a real news WHAT will change exactly? It’s all some weird.
> > > 2.) When they change it. They should make a statement. It’s just hard to know not much about their plans!
> > > 3.) What will be on the first of next month? The arena season is over soon. Will they put a new season in? Not really? Arena is just a joke. So I will think they gonna put some new ranking system in like H2 and 3? Questions over Questions.
> >
> > 1.) They have confirmed the CE Magnum, bloomless precision weapons and melee bleedthrough.
> > 2.)They will most likely release something explaining fully the TU changes.
> > 3.)The 1-50 system was way more flawed than Arena.
> >
> > BTW, is english your first language? Not flaming, just wondering.
>
> 1.) Please send me the link where they confirmed it on a written news!
> 2.) Yeah I know they will do it but they can still do it now after Halo Fest!
> 3.) The 1-50 system from Halo 2 was nice. They should add it after this arena season. It’s not a hard work to do it for them, maybe some hours. I could post so many negative aspects of arena but my list would be to big for this page.
> And to your question: wow you’re a real beast of knowledge :slight_smile: yes you’re right english isn’t my first language. german is my first language but I always try my best at english.

Info on TU:http://halo.xbox.com/forums/games/f/7/p/22731/176499.aspx#176499
Why 1-50 is flawed:http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=63649160

> > > 1.) I heard about the videos with no bloom and stuff like jump height like Halo 1-3. But when 343 make a real news WHAT will change exactly? It’s all some weird.
> > > 2.) When they change it. They should make a statement. It’s just hard to know not much about their plans!
> > > 3.) What will be on the first of next month? The arena season is over soon. Will they put a new season in? Not really? Arena is just a joke. So I will think they gonna put some new ranking system in like H2 and 3? Questions over Questions.
> >
> > 1.) They have confirmed the CE Magnum, bloomless precision weapons and melee bleedthrough.
> > 2.)They will most likely release something explaining fully the TU changes.
> > 3.)The 1-50 system was way more flawed than Arena.
> >
> > BTW, is english your first language? Not flaming, just wondering.
>
> 1.) Please send me the link where they confirmed it on a written news!
> 2.) Yeah I know they will do it but they can still do it now after Halo Fest!
> 3.) The 1-50 system from Halo 2 was nice. They should add it after this arena season. It’s not a hard work to do it for them, maybe some hours. I could post so many negative aspects of arena but my list would be to big for this page.
> And to your question: wow you’re a real beast of knowledge :slight_smile: yes you’re right english isn’t my first language. german is my first language but I always try my best at english.

These should answer some questions about that Magnum and bloomless weapons amoung other things.

Now for the specific things the TU can allow 343 (not the player) to tweak during the Beta Hoppers
http://halo.xbox.com/forums/games/f/7/t/22731.aspx

1-50 in halo 3 was trash. everyone just boosted doubles. halo 2 1-50 was pretty good though.

i dont know what has been threw your head no one cares about areana its pointless and the ranking system on reach is boring please do not spread that crap and ruin it for me and a bunch of people who want the 1-50 back if you do halo reach will be worse without than with it

> i dont know what has been threw your head no one cares about areana its pointless and the ranking system on reach is boring please do not spread that crap and ruin it for me and a bunch of people who want the 1-50 back if you do halo reach will be worse without than with it

Please read this:http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=63649160

> i dont know what has been threw your head no one cares about areana its pointless and the ranking system on reach is boring please do not spread that crap and ruin it for me and a bunch of people who want the 1-50 back if you do halo reach will be worse without than with it

i think I replied to the wrong person opps

> > > > 1.) I heard about the videos with no bloom and stuff like jump height like Halo 1-3. But when 343 make a real news WHAT will change exactly? It’s all some weird.
> > > > 2.) When they change it. They should make a statement. It’s just hard to know not much about their plans!
> > > > 3.) What will be on the first of next month? The arena season is over soon. Will they put a new season in? Not really? Arena is just a joke. So I will think they gonna put some new ranking system in like H2 and 3? Questions over Questions.
> > >
> > > 1.) They have confirmed the CE Magnum, bloomless precision weapons and melee bleedthrough.
> > > 2.)They will most likely release something explaining fully the TU changes.
> > > 3.)The 1-50 system was way more flawed than Arena.
> > >
> > > BTW, is english your first language? Not flaming, just wondering.
> >
> > 1.) Please send me the link where they confirmed it on a written news!
> > 2.) Yeah I know they will do it but they can still do it now after Halo Fest!
> > 3.) The 1-50 system from Halo 2 was nice. They should add it after this arena season. It’s not a hard work to do it for them, maybe some hours. I could post so many negative aspects of arena but my list would be to big for this page.
> > And to your question: wow you’re a real beast of knowledge :slight_smile: yes you’re right english isn’t my first language. german is my first language but I always try my best at english.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZEiijxrTI&feature=related
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUC0e9x0paA
>
>
>
> These should answer some questions about that Magnum and bloomless weapons amoung other things.
>
> Now for the specific things the TU can allow 343 (not the player) to tweak during the Beta Hoppers
> http://halo.xbox.com/forums/games/f/7/t/22731.aspx

I saw this thread from the admin about halo fest. But IS THIS REALLY EVERYTHING of the TU. Not really or? Okay some things are very good like NO BLOOM and the armor lock/camo stuff.
Now back to the ranking system. They should add the Halo 2 1-50 system. It was the greatest. No derankers like in Halo 3 and you experienced really tough games vs players who are on your TRUE skill. The only thing what there will ever be are cheaters. And don’t say that in arena aren’t cheaters. There are enough I found some! Only look on the arena population, this is a joke for a ranking system. This shows that arena system is wrong.

> > > > > 1.) I heard about the videos with no bloom and stuff like jump height like Halo 1-3. But when 343 make a real news WHAT will change exactly? It’s all some weird.
> > > > > 2.) When they change it. They should make a statement. It’s just hard to know not much about their plans!
> > > > > 3.) What will be on the first of next month? The arena season is over soon. Will they put a new season in? Not really? Arena is just a joke. So I will think they gonna put some new ranking system in like H2 and 3? Questions over Questions.
> > > >
> > > > 1.) They have confirmed the CE Magnum, bloomless precision weapons and melee bleedthrough.
> > > > 2.)They will most likely release something explaining fully the TU changes.
> > > > 3.)The 1-50 system was way more flawed than Arena.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, is english your first language? Not flaming, just wondering.
> > >
> > > 1.) Please send me the link where they confirmed it on a written news!
> > > 2.) Yeah I know they will do it but they can still do it now after Halo Fest!
> > > 3.) The 1-50 system from Halo 2 was nice. They should add it after this arena season. It’s not a hard work to do it for them, maybe some hours. I could post so many negative aspects of arena but my list would be to big for this page.
> > > And to your question: wow you’re a real beast of knowledge :slight_smile: yes you’re right english isn’t my first language. german is my first language but I always try my best at english.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZEiijxrTI&feature=related
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUC0e9x0paA
> >
> >
> >
> > These should answer some questions about that Magnum and bloomless weapons amoung other things.
> >
> > Now for the specific things the TU can allow 343 (not the player) to tweak during the Beta Hoppers
> > http://halo.xbox.com/forums/games/f/7/t/22731.aspx
>
> I saw this thread from the admin about halo fest. But IS THIS REALLY EVERYTHING of the TU. Not really or? Okay some things are very good like NO BLOOM and the armor lock/camo stuff.
> Now back to the ranking system. They should add the Halo 2 1-50 system. It was the greatest. No derankers like in Halo 3 and you experienced really tough games vs players who are on your TRUE skill. The only thing what there will ever be are cheaters. And don’t say that in arena aren’t cheaters. There are enough I found some! Only look on the arena population, this is a joke for a ranking system. This shows that arena system is wrong.

Arena does have cheaters that perform DDoS attacks against other players to get to top 1 percent Onyx. However, they are rare and my experience in the Arena is that it’s tough but not MLG tough.

Arena population is a helluva lot better than it was before. It’s system encouraged selfish play in a team game. You were better off not helping your team mates so that you could score kills and not die.

At least now it’s a bit better. W/L (Wins/loss) which encourages team work and while not it’s not perfect, neither was 1-50 as it was in Halo 3.

> > i dont know what has been threw your head no one cares about areana its pointless and the ranking system on reach is boring please do not spread that crap and ruin it for me and a bunch of people who want the 1-50 back if you do halo reach will be worse without than with it
>
> Please read this:http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=63649160

I agree with that link’s post, the only reason people want 1-50 back is because it was in Halo 3, and that is the only reason, not because it is accurate of representing true player skill (which it is NOT, especially Halo 2’s), but because it was in two other halo games before Reach.

bs angel and alot of community members have posted the details of the TU several times and none of them state a new ranking system, besides, it’s nearly have been a year and nearly everybody is atleast a Colonel+. It would be useless for a new system.

Off-topic: I know German and English are both deprived from the Germanic language but is it actually easy to learn German instead of others since my first language is English?

  1. No bloom on precision weapons. Halo CE pistol. Bleedthrough
  2. They will give a full list later on.
  3. How is arena a fail? Your division is based strongly on your win loss. Isn’t that how the Halo 3 ranking system worked?

> > > > > 1.) I heard about the videos with no bloom and stuff like jump height like Halo 1-3. But when 343 make a real news WHAT will change exactly? It’s all some weird.
> > > > > 2.) When they change it. They should make a statement. It’s just hard to know not much about their plans!
> > > > > 3.) What will be on the first of next month? The arena season is over soon. Will they put a new season in? Not really? Arena is just a joke. So I will think they gonna put some new ranking system in like H2 and 3? Questions over Questions.
> > > >
> > > > 1.) They have confirmed the CE Magnum, bloomless precision weapons and melee bleedthrough.
> > > > 2.)They will most likely release something explaining fully the TU changes.
> > > > 3.)The 1-50 system was way more flawed than Arena.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, is english your first language? Not flaming, just wondering.
> > >
> > > 1.) Please send me the link where they confirmed it on a written news!
> > > 2.) Yeah I know they will do it but they can still do it now after Halo Fest!
> > > 3.) The 1-50 system from Halo 2 was nice. They should add it after this arena season. It’s not a hard work to do it for them, maybe some hours. I could post so many negative aspects of arena but my list would be to big for this page.
> > > And to your question: wow you’re a real beast of knowledge :slight_smile: yes you’re right english isn’t my first language. german is my first language but I always try my best at english.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZEiijxrTI&feature=related
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUC0e9x0paA
> >
> >
> >
> > These should answer some questions about that Magnum and bloomless weapons amoung other things.
> >
> > Now for the specific things the TU can allow 343 (not the player) to tweak during the Beta Hoppers
> > http://halo.xbox.com/forums/games/f/7/t/22731.aspx
>
> I saw this thread from the admin about halo fest. But IS THIS REALLY EVERYTHING of the TU. Not really or? Okay some things are very good like NO BLOOM and the armor lock/camo stuff.
> Now back to the ranking system. They should add the Halo 2 1-50 system. It was the greatest. No derankers like in Halo 3 and you experienced really tough games vs players who are on your TRUE skill. The only thing what there will ever be are cheaters. And don’t say that in arena aren’t cheaters. There are enough I found some! Only look on the arena population, this is a joke for a ranking system. This shows that arena system is wrong.

The problem with 1-50 is that it is not your true skill level, it is True Skill combined with a progressive ‘RPG’ leveling system. A pure True Skill level would be far better, and would allow you to be matched with players of equal skill much easier.

> > > i dont know what has been threw your head no one cares about areana its pointless and the ranking system on reach is boring please do not spread that crap and ruin it for me and a bunch of people who want the 1-50 back if you do halo reach will be worse without than with it
> >
> > Please read this:http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=63649160
>
> I agree with that link’s post, the only reason people want 1-50 back is because it was in Halo 3, and that is the only reason, not because it is accurate of representing true player skill (which it is NOT, especially Halo 2’s), but because it was in two other halo games before Reach.

No the reason is that arena is boring and you find there only selfish players=no teamwork. In h2 and h3 was teamwork everything and every teammate supported to win games and so the gameplay was more amazing. And I can’t find anything in arena with 4s because the population is too low (on the first year of a new halo game LOL). This speaks for a new ranking system and more playlists. The ranking system should be fixed…

> 1. No bloom on precision weapons. Halo CE pistol. Bleedthrough
> 2. They will give a full list later on.
> 3. How is arena a fail? Your division is based strongly on your win loss. Isn’t that how the Halo 3 ranking system worked?

The WIN/LOSS should count 100% because Halo is a team-based game. Every shot from the team count and can bring the win. Then I would have no problem with the ranking system, it could be 1-100 or whatever, onyx % but then they should add other ranked playlist because the arena rules aren’t the best!

> bs angel and alot of community members have posted the details of the TU several times and none of them state a new ranking system, besides, it’s nearly have been a year and nearly everybody is atleast a Colonel+. It would be useless for a new system.
>
> Off-topic: I know German and English are both deprived from the Germanic language but is it actually easy to learn German instead of others since my first language is English?

I think it’s not easy to learn german, maybe so hard like spanish I don’t know ^^ but I have english since 7 years in school and I understand it very well but I don’t know how it is to be english and learn german!^^

> > > > i dont know what has been threw your head no one cares about areana its pointless and the ranking system on reach is boring please do not spread that crap and ruin it for me and a bunch of people who want the 1-50 back if you do halo reach will be worse without than with it
> > >
> > > Please read this:http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=63649160
> >
> > I agree with that link’s post, the only reason people want 1-50 back is because it was in Halo 3, and that is the only reason, not because it is accurate of representing true player skill (which it is NOT, especially Halo 2’s), but because it was in two other halo games before Reach.
>
> No the reason is that arena is boring and you find there only selfish players=no teamwork. In h2 and h3 was teamwork everything and every teammate supported to win games and so the gameplay was more amazing. And I can’t find anything in arena with 4s because the population is too low (on the first year of a new halo game LOL). This speaks for a new ranking system and more playlists. The ranking system should be fixed…

The population is low because many players feel intimidated about joining the only ranked playlist, they feel it will just be filled with “pros”. The solution would be to categorize playlists into social and ranked, and to use arenas ranking system in all the ranked playlists.

> > 1. No bloom on precision weapons. Halo CE pistol. Bleedthrough
> > 2. They will give a full list later on.
> > 3. How is arena a fail? Your division is based strongly on your win loss. Isn’t that how the Halo 3 ranking system worked?
>
> The WIN/LOSS should count 100% because Halo is a team-based game. Every shot from the team count and can bring the win. Then I would have no problem with the ranking system, it could be 1-100 or whatever, onyx % but then they should add other ranked playlist because the arena rules aren’t the best!

Win/loss does count 100%. It’s been that way for almost six months now.

The only difference between 1-50 and Arena is that 1-50 shows what your TrueSkill is while Arena shows how your TrueSkill compares to the population. IMO the only thing holding the Arena ranking system back at this point is the fact that it’s underutilized. I think the system would be much more widely accepted if more playlists were moved into Arena and your Arena rank was made much more visible across all playlists.