I am curious what would the community think about the unsc finding forerunner technology that could warp them back to 2521 or something in the years just before the war and let the unsc know of the impending covenant invasion and give the UNSC all the research and technology they aquired during the war to help prepare them for the up coming war with the covenant. Immagine the unsc using the nova bomb much earlier in the war the covenant would have been anniliated
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> I am curious what would the community think about the unsc finding forerunner technology that could warp them back to 2521 or something in the years just before the war and let the unsc know of the impending covenant invasion and give the UNSC all the research and technology they aquired during the war to help prepare them for the up coming war with the covenant. Immagine the unsc using the nova bomb much earlier in the war the covenant would have been anniliated
Well, one the one hand, it would give them a pretty excuse to make the Covenant a more relevant enemy than the Forerunner again.
But barring my own preference, I think that there is a lot of risk in time travel, even if you have better technology or the prior knowledge to predict and counter your enemy. Once the first event with the Minor Transgression is interrupted (if they chose to strategically interrupt that one in particular), then the butterfly effect occurs and it is subsequently no longer possible to predict the outcome of the war. Even with better technology, if the UNSC isn’t able to reach a Halo ring fast enough, the entire universe could be destroyed. I think that’s a risk that in-universe scientists would consider, and wager it is better to let the casualties—albeit grossly high—stand, rather than risk their own annihilation should they make a mistake the second time.
Time Travel was briefly flirted with during the “I Love Bees” ARG. It was a fun gimmick, but I don’t like the idea of time travel affecting the overall Halo story. There are a lot of facets to Sci-Fi (which makes it so amazing as a genre), and time travel is a fun facet to explore in other universes… just not in Halo. At least in my opinion.
Already done in-universe involving a forerunner crystal. Chief and the survivors of Alpha Halo ended u time traveling 2-3 weeks back in time when heading to Reach thanks to the crystal on the planet.
Cool concept, but it might come across as a cheap attempt at a reboot. I don’t think that would be the case since the events that occurred would already be established when going back in time, but it’s a matter of perspective.
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> Already done in-universe involving a forerunner crystal. Chief and the survivors of Alpha Halo ended u time traveling 2-3 weeks back in time when heading to Reach thanks to the crystal on the planet.
Good point, totally forgot about this. In fact, slip space travel is kinda wonky and strange in general, even without the crystal. There was an example given in The Fall of Reach or First Strike (can’t remember if it was in the adjunct or in the book proper) where a ship was recorded as arriving at its destination before it technically set off from it’s departure point due to slip space anomalies.
Time-travelling is one of the worst things any sci-fi media can do, it’s always a lazy way to avoid and/or retcon narrative mistakes
and seriously hope it won’t be a main-theme in any Halo-related media
There’s also the whole Slipspace battle with the Forerunner Crystal found on Reach that messed with spacetime, from Halo First Strike.
Honestly I’d go with time travel, so long as it’s the kind of ‘creates an alternate timeline while the primate timeline continues unaltered’ type.
That way 343i’s Halo games and books and terrible art direction can just be shoved into said alternate timeline and ignored.
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> There’s also the whole Slipspace battle with the Forerunner Crystal found on Reach that messed with spacetime, from Halo First Strike.
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> That way 343i’s Halo games and books and terrible art direction can just be shoved into said alternate timeline and ignored.
But Halo Wars 2,Halo: Broken Circle, and the Forerunner trilogy were all quite good.
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> But Halo Wars 2,Halo: Broken Circle, and the Forerunner trilogy were all quite good.
To you. I find nothing quality about anything 343i, ESPECIALLY the Forerunner Trilogy, which was something we didn’t need and that I especially did not want as it removed all the mystery of the Forerunner and replaced it with laughable nonsense. And Halo Wars 2, outside of Atriox, was little more than a platform to sell DLC for and out of the campaign you spend eight out of the twelve missions in what are essentially tutorials.
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> To you. I find nothing quality about anything 343i, ESPECIALLY the Forerunner Trilogy, which was something we didn’t need and that I especially did not want as it removed all the mystery of the Forerunner and replaced it with laughable nonsense. And Halo Wars 2, outside of Atriox, was little more than a platform to sell DLC for and out of the campaign you spend eight out of the twelve missions in what are essentially tutorials.
Alright, and Broken Circle? Far as I can tell, the book stands alone perfectly and does not mess with any established lore.
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Wouldn’t know, but I suspect that it still probably isn’t anything I’d care for. I stopped supporting 343i and stopped buying their products when I realized they were taking the Halo universe someplace it did not belong and some place I did not enjoy or see much quality in. I only buy the games used because I don’t want them to get a single cent of my money until they start showing they can fix their mistakes.
Which they won’t, since it would be retconning essentially everything they’ve done out of existence and resetting everything lore and art style wise back to where things were at the end of Halo 3, and going back to the Reach visual style.
But this is getting off-topic. I hate what 343i has done to Halo, and it’s been my /slightest/ of hopes that when they say they’re doing a soft reboot and taking things back to the classic Halo design styles with Infinite that they’re getting back on track.
Continue on with discussion of time travel.
As the OP wants it, it would never work unless 343i REALLY wants to erase everything Bungie did and have their terrible art style cemented as having always been so. Using modern UNSC technology, especially the Infinity, basically means humanity wins the war with the Covenant. They can mass produce Spartans without any downsides, better ship engines, Slipspace drives, everything would become what humanity has now (because somehow four years following a genocidal campaign in which only Earth was left and even then it was heavily under siege somehow means humanity gets to be the new galactic empire with a strong army and fleet give me a freaking break 343i) and put them on even footing or better than the Covenant.
It simply DOES NOT WORK.
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First off Earth was never the last human colony, the UNSC however did lose most of it’s strong bastions such as reach. However plenty of the 800+ colonies survived the war and provide the industrial and population base to quickly rebuild the military that just got bolstered by a massive cache of intact forerunner artifacts, that also included engineers that were pretty compliant. All of these things together makes it pretty likely that humanity would take a top spot in the Orion arm as every other species was extremely dependant on the now extremely rare engineers or simply no longer have any wish to fight. Look at the elites, a society that is effectively useless due to their extreme focus on military which lead to a lack of other needed skills such as farming which were handled the various subject species that had no reason to stay after the dissolution of the empire.
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No many inner colonies survived and some outer colonies survived. So there was still plenty left to rebuild from. By 2558 several outer colonies had been revitalised as well and theres several billion people living on the earth again
Not a good idea. Time travel is too easily jumbled.
No thank you, we have already have enough space magic.