I got betrayed by the same player 3 times in a BTB game, but still didn’t get the option to boot him…
- I thought you got the option to boot after the second betrayal ?
i got betrayed by the same guy about 8/9 times and was never able to boot him. so i reported him
> - I thought you got the option to boot after the second betrayal ?
Not always. Betrayals work on a Karma System with a whole bunch of variables. If you shot back at this guy and caused him any damage that will reduce your chance of being given a boot option. If you boot every player when first offered a boot option you will be given the option to boot people less and less. Damage, including splash damage from nades and rockets, you inflict on team mates carries over from game to game as well. Imagine a little meter that keeps rising up and down depending on who you do damage to on your team and who causes you damage from your team. once it hits a certain level you or the other players are given a boot option on the very next betrayal.
So if you didnt get the boot option after 3 betrayals then it has more to do with you and your game behaviour than the other player. What i mean by that is did you cause them any damage and do you always boot on first option.
I find now when players start betraying me i just dont react and usually will be given the option on the 2nd betrayal.
Thanks for the feedback Slayer, I didn’t realize it was so complicated (!)
But to answer your questions…
No I didn’t betray/damage him (or any team player) in any way during that game.
His betrayals on me were ‘clean’ betrayals, no damage from the enemy. They were intentional (no enemies nearby).
I try to avoid damaging my team where possible, I am not a griefer. I normally try to run away from players on my team who are griefing me.
No, I generally try to give team mates benefit of the doubt and not to boot team players at the first chance.
I try to be the cleanest player I can possibly be but as you say maybe even small, unintentional indiscretions still just clock up 
Nooky you will probably find in this instance that he may of been a cleanskin for a while and that may be the reason you didnt get it. It seems odd to me that after 3 straight betrayals with no retaliation from you that you were not given a boot option. Usually most guys who betray have a history of it. He probably had been behaving himself for a long time and that why it happen but i reckon if he betrayed anyone in his next game they would get the boot option first kick.
It really is a stupid system that is very hard to predict how it will work. Once in a BTB game my party of 8 decided to give the opposition a head start by betraying the hell out of each other until we were minus 50. We all got boot options early but after a while it just stopped giving us boot options and then one would just randomly pop up like on your 8th or 9th betrayal. You would think with all the technology we have now they could work out what was a straight betrayal and what was splash damage.
BTW good on you for playing fairly. We need more players like you in Reach as there are a lot of idiots playing the game now.
Yeah there seems to be at least one griefer in most BTB game these days which pretty much wrecks the competitiveness.
I don’t remember it being so bad a year or two ago…
That “boot” thing totally sucks sometimes…
I stuck an enemy on invasion, my teammate was running right over the elite, like if he wanted to die…
He actually died and I get booted, but… Wtf ? was the first time I betrayed someone, and I didn’t want to -.-
I hate this,
-.-
The whole booting methodology is pretty flawed.
You would think the first thing that the code would check is “are there any enemies within 50 feet / 15 meters” (the 50 feet / 15 meters as an arbitrary number - TBD empirically) of where the betrayal took place? If no, then you should be automatically given the “boot this person” option. If there aren’t any enemies, then it’s an obvious betrayal.
That would also help prevent these people that just drive like fools in a ghost or revenant or warthog and don’t care whom they kill (friend or foe) as they roar around the map.
The booting system for Halo’s always been broken. I’ve had my wraith blown up by an ally, on purpose, when I was just acting like wraiths do (Mortaring the enemy base in Team Slayer). This was from a undamaged state, too. He then proceeded to kill me five times in a row, T-bagging me every time. When I finally lost my temper, and blew him to smithereens (Just ONCE), I was immediatly booted. I never even saw the option to boot him, ever.