I’m just curious about what y’all think of the new Scorpion featured in Halo 5: Guardians. Personally, I like it. However, It’s design doesn’t look as futuristic to me as the classic M808 & M808B in the previous Halo games. What do y’all think? I wish we’d gotten the classic Scorpion again or at least one that looks more like it but as small as the M820. Maybe with machine guns. One gunner seat & then one attached to the main cannon like in Halo: CE & Halo 2.
I prefer the newer tank. It actually looks like a tank. The Scorpion had always looked dumb IMO, until now.
I really like the new Scorpion. It’s a lot bulkier than the previous ones, and I like that(I don’t know why, I just do)
Gameplay-wise, I think it should be a tad-bit faster. It’s a bit too slow for me right now. Can be a bit annoying in some occasions when playing Warzone.
But we’re talking design here, and all I can say is I like it. There are people are mixed about the new vehicle designs 343 has been giving, but I haven’t found a new design that I’m unsatisfied with.
It needs to be way faster, a freaking Abrams tank goes at 60 mph, this thing is brutally slow. And coax MG. nuff said.
What an unnecessary change. They keep changing unique designs into uglier ones. Remember the rockets? Now we have 500 year old Abrams running amok. Old scorpion was way cooler looking and unique.
Personal, I love the M808’s physical resistence, and the M808B’s fire power.
Out of all the things wrong with the tank that could be complained about you guys are bringing up the speed? How about the total lack of defensive abilities and it can be boarded and killed with one grenade in under 4 seconds. And don’t get me started on the Mantis…that thing is a piece of crap.
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> What an unnecessary change. They keep changing unique designs into uglier ones. Remember the rockets? Now we have 500 year old Abrams running amok. Old scorpion was way cooler looking and unique.
Looks nothing like an Abrams.
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My point was that it looked primitive and uninspired for a tank 500 years in the future.
It needs an overall boost to speed, resistance, and a coax gun… If the thing can be boarded from the rear the MG needs to point to the rear… Basic design, don’t excuse it for balance or whatever, actual design realities dictate it should have a 360 MG for defense
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It’s a tank. It looks like a tank. And it does look like a futuristic tank.
Show me a main battle tank that is operated by a one man crew. This tank is so futuristic that one guy operates the entire thing effectively, whereas modern tanks require 3-4, depending on the tank (with Russia making an attempt on a two man MBT).
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As much as it kills me sometimes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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Yeah, ignore the part about the crew size, making it indisputably futuristic.
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I know right? Sometimes I dream of being an absolute dictator, where I could enforce my vision of tankdom… I prefer the old style by far, cleaner lines.
I personally like the new tank better. I love the realistic design it has and in my experience it doesn’t handle any differently than any of its predecessors.
I like the new tank, but I really miss my Reach Scorpion.
Design: The design is crap. It has too many redundant and useless features on it. It looks clunky and definitely lost the futuristic feel of the old design.
Gameplay: Needs tweaking. Gunner position is weak and too exposed. Driving controls are a mess, especially when doing tighter turns. Also it’s waaaaay too easy to board. Plus if someone boards your rear, you can’t get out??? WTF?
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> Design: The design is crap. It has too many redundant and useless features on it. It looks clunky and definitely lost the futuristic feel of the old design.
> Gameplay: Needs tweaking. Gunner position is weak and too exposed. Driving controls are a mess, especially when doing tighter turns. Also it’s waaaaay too easy to board. Plus if someone boards your rear, you can’t get out??? WTF?
I agree
the scorpion in halo 1- reach was called a scorpion for a reason.
its profile was made to look like a scorpion , with the cannon being the scorpions tail http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/a/ae/Halo_Reach_Scorpion.png/revision/latest?cb=20100406005744
the new scorpion tank is very bulky in comparison so it looses most of that profile and just looks like a buttered up version of the old tank without actually paying attention to what the old design was inspired by. because they could’ve improved upon that scorpion profile it was trying to pull
gameplay wise , I don’t know why but the new tank feels alot more clunky and slow. the new controls for the scorpion are confusing because the directional controls for the tank rotate around the direction you’re looking ( if you’re looking backwards and the tank is facing forward ,you will need to press forward to go reverse and reverse to go forward) , vs in the previous halo games it was based off the direction the vehicle was facing.
i feel like the controls should be reverted back to how it used to be or given the option to put it back to how it used to be
i feel like the tank should be just a bit faster , 15-25% faster.
destroying a tank from behind should be more difficult.
players should have to melee the back 2 times after mounting to destroy the shield , then throw a grenade in after destroying the shield covering the back to destroy the tank.
**also you cant kill players out of tanks anymore?**in the previous halo games you used to be able to shoot the cockpit shield off , then kill the driver. saving the tank , this was possible with both wraiths and scorpions.
Honestly, I just can’t stand the M820 “Scorpion.” It’s design is obviously based on the concept art for the M850 “Grizzly” tank from Halo Wars. Honestly, I think we would have been better off with a mass produced Grizzly tank for Halo 5: Guardians instead of this supposed new model Scorpion that looks more like an M1 Abrams.
To sum it up, either we should’ve had a Scorpion tank that looked like a Scorpion or replace it all together with a mainline Grizzly.
Thoughts?
Can’t sit on sides, don’t like.
Honestly the only thing it needs is a little bit more gun depression.