I like to play 2v2 with a friend and we both prefer banished. If we come up against a pair of UNSC it’s all but definite they’ll start with marines and then lead up to a condor. Thing is with banished Assault Elites suck and they are the only real Anti-Infantry. But you need tech 2, so no use in a rush. If you do surive the marine onslaught, you have to start producing anti-air. So either a but load of banshees or reavers. Thing is Reavers like to group together and imo kinda suck. Their DPS feels low and if an unit is destroyed the rest of their incoming rockets fly off into the distance.
It’s not impossible to destroy one but as soon as one is gone there is another straight after so I feel like I’m on the defensive constantly with a counter attack out of the question since all my units take their sweet time taking down their ult. Is it because my strat isn’t good enough or is it just because 2 people churning out Condors over and over make it difficult to actually do anything? Any help or do you have the same problem?
The answer is a Scarab. Scarab takes out Condor every time, back it up with Engineers and a small Banshee escorts for the engineers, even if the Condor has nightgale back up you will still win. Make use of the Scarab’s and the Engineers sheild ability’s and watch out for nightgale smoke being used to blind your scarab, if they us it simply move your scarab out of the smoke and it will resume killing the nightgale and Condor
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> The answer is a Scarab. Scarab takes out Condor every time, back it up with Engineers and a small Banshee escorts for the engineers, even if the Condor has nightgale back up you will still win. Make use of the Scarab’s and the Engineers sheild ability’s and watch out for nightgale smoke being used to blind your scarab, if they us it simply move your scarab out of the smoke and it will resume killing the nightgale and Condor
False, a mix of wolves and a condor and Mr. forges upgraded warthog owns a scarab and his engineers. Or wait maybe he waited to long to target my condor going for my main base IDK. Lol I feel as a forge main, Condors have very good range, and target multiple units, and mac ability and health is pretty wicked. I use it rarely but when i do I drink dos Equis
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> > The answer is a Scarab. Scarab takes out Condor every time, back it up with Engineers and a small Banshee escorts for the engineers, even if the Condor has nightgale back up you will still win. Make use of the Scarab’s and the Engineers sheild ability’s and watch out for nightgale smoke being used to blind your scarab, if they us it simply move your scarab out of the smoke and it will resume killing the nightgale and Condor
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> False, a mix of wolves and a condor and Mr. forges upgraded warthog owns a scarab and his engineers. Or wait maybe he waited to long to target my condor going for my main base IDK. Lol I feel as a forge main, Condors have very good range, and target multiple units, and mac ability and health is pretty wicked. I use it rarely but when i do I drink dos Equis
The chance of wolves with your Condor is exactly why you add the Banshee escort to the Engineers, not only does it give you more combat units but it gives your units something other than important engineers to shot at. And a good scarab will eliminate your Condors support first, or as much is needed for it to kill the Condor. You can forget it’s sheild, which prevents all dmg for a time on a short cool down. I have been able to take my Scarab against 2 Condors and still win using this, Condors aren’t a issue for a properly preped Scarab, for a Scarab with no healing support and not using the sheild, yeah unless the Condor also has no real support its an issue.
Also Condors seem to be really weak against dropping an upgraded glasing beam on them, that really helps end them quickly
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> condors are so bad, need buff imo
Uber units will always be strong when used the right way. Having behind your army in an engagement, being like a floating artillery will keep it alive longer. So the enemies army will try to take it out first and walk through your army and die. But having a Condor in the middle of a skirmish, every good enemy will target it first with all units. Or run and get anti-air.
Im having mixed results with condors to be honest, at times ill be able to drop it with a mix of Grunts and Reavers and then other times ill get steamrolled. I think it may come down to whether or not the player is just sending it in and letting it do its thing or if hes managing it themselves.
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> I like to play 2v2 with a friend and we both prefer banished. If we come up against a pair of UNSC it’s all but definite they’ll start with marines and then lead up to a condor. Thing is with banished Assault Elites suck and they are the only real Anti-Infantry. But you need tech 2, so no use in a rush. If you do surive the marine onslaught, you have to start producing anti-air. So either a but load of banshees or reavers. Thing is Reavers like to group together and imo kinda suck. Their DPS feels low and if an unit is destroyed the rest of their incoming rockets fly off into the distance.
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> It’s not impossible to destroy one but as soon as one is gone there is another straight after so I feel like I’m on the defensive constantly with a counter attack out of the question since all my units take their sweet time taking down their ult. Is it because my strat isn’t good enough or is it just because 2 people churning out Condors over and over make it difficult to actually do anything? Any help or do you have the same problem?
Well forst of all that is indeed not what all UNSC does. If anything for me it is a last resort I pull when I feel the opponent doesn’t expect it. Also reavers might be a bit underpowered but they still work. Also bamshees are good, you just need to have like half pop of them or something. Maybe even less.
But yeah. I feel like you haven’t ran into many high level players if all your opponents do is get a condor out as soon as they can…
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> > I like to play 2v2 with a friend and we both prefer banished. If we come up against a pair of UNSC it’s all but definite they’ll start with marines and then lead up to a condor. Thing is with banished Assault Elites suck and they are the only real Anti-Infantry. But you need tech 2, so no use in a rush. If you do surive the marine onslaught, you have to start producing anti-air. So either a but load of banshees or reavers. Thing is Reavers like to group together and imo kinda suck. Their DPS feels low and if an unit is destroyed the rest of their incoming rockets fly off into the distance.
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> > It’s not impossible to destroy one but as soon as one is gone there is another straight after so I feel like I’m on the defensive constantly with a counter attack out of the question since all my units take their sweet time taking down their ult. Is it because my strat isn’t good enough or is it just because 2 people churning out Condors over and over make it difficult to actually do anything? Any help or do you have the same problem?
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> Well forst of all that is indeed not what all UNSC does. If anything for me it is a last resort I pull when I feel the opponent doesn’t expect it. Also reavers might be a bit underpowered but they still work. Also bamshees are good, you just need to have like half pop of them or something. Maybe even less.
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> But yeah. I feel like you haven’t ran into many high level players if all your opponents do is get a condor out as soon as they can…
Me and my friend did just that, except he created all reavers and defended, I created banshees and tried to counter attack. It was impossible because as soon as we killed one condor with 5 nightingales surrounding it, another came in straight after. It was non stop for around 30 minutes. Eventually I managed to teleport like 10 locust behind their bases but still…
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> I like to play 2v2 with a friend and we both prefer banished. If we come up against a pair of UNSC it’s all but definite they’ll start with marines and then lead up to a condor. Thing is with banished Assault Elites suck and they are the only real Anti-Infantry. But you need tech 2, so no use in a rush. If you do surive the marine onslaught, you have to start producing anti-air. So either a but load of banshees or reavers. Thing is Reavers like to group together and imo kinda suck. Their DPS feels low and if an unit is destroyed the rest of their incoming rockets fly off into the distance.
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> It’s not impossible to destroy one but as soon as one is gone there is another straight after so I feel like I’m on the defensive constantly with a counter attack out of the question since all my units take their sweet time taking down their ult. Is it because my strat isn’t good enough or is it just because 2 people churning out Condors over and over make it difficult to actually do anything? Any help or do you have the same problem?
I’ve actually found grunts extremely effective versus condors. With infantry 3, and pack brother, they’re actually decently threatening to air.
PT Banshees stomp. I mainly utilize an army consisting of 16 Banshees/8 hunters/2 to 4 engineers and the rest grunts as meatshields.
If the UNSC player brings Condors with Wolves, it’s a rap. A ton of players don’t know how to build counters so I understand how they get overrun by Super Unit+ Anti-Air.
condors have massive potential when they are being microed. But this has a weakness, a player can’t effectively use it’s condor and army. I have used them really effectively in games using them as support units, sitting behind my teams armies and providing fire support.
Once you start to focus them down they nothing more than sitting duck, or rather hovering, can ducks even hover? I have seen people use hornet’s to good effect against them, and as some say, use banshee, both of these are very effective
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> > > I like to play 2v2 with a friend and we both prefer banished. If we come up against a pair of UNSC it’s all but definite they’ll start with marines and then lead up to a condor. Thing is with banished Assault Elites suck and they are the only real Anti-Infantry. But you need tech 2, so no use in a rush. If you do surive the marine onslaught, you have to start producing anti-air. So either a but load of banshees or reavers. Thing is Reavers like to group together and imo kinda suck. Their DPS feels low and if an unit is destroyed the rest of their incoming rockets fly off into the distance.
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> > > It’s not impossible to destroy one but as soon as one is gone there is another straight after so I feel like I’m on the defensive constantly with a counter attack out of the question since all my units take their sweet time taking down their ult. Is it because my strat isn’t good enough or is it just because 2 people churning out Condors over and over make it difficult to actually do anything? Any help or do you have the same problem?
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> > Well forst of all that is indeed not what all UNSC does. If anything for me it is a last resort I pull when I feel the opponent doesn’t expect it. Also reavers might be a bit underpowered but they still work. Also bamshees are good, you just need to have like half pop of them or something. Maybe even less.
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> > But yeah. I feel like you haven’t ran into many high level players if all your opponents do is get a condor out as soon as they can…
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> Me and my friend did just that, except he created all reavers and defended, I created banshees and tried to counter attack. It was impossible because as soon as we killed one condor with 5 nightingales surrounding it, another came in straight after. It was non stop for around 30 minutes. Eventually I managed to teleport like 10 locust behind their bases but still…
That’s a good stratagy (the locusts) but honestly you can only have like two, MAYBE 3 condors and 3 is assuming absolute full pop I think. I don’t know max pop off my head but I know a condor is 40 so if it’s 100 then 2 and if 120 then 3 but honestly condors are pretty good overall but really should only be used against bases due to them being able to attack more than one target at once and their Y ability.
But what I am saying is that they would have had to have had a TON of supplies AND power to CONSTANTLY be pumping them and sending them to die basically. So you are clearly doing something wrong initially by letting your opponent get such a MASSIVE echonomy advantage over you.
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> The answer is a Scarab. Scarab takes out Condor every time, back it up with Engineers and a small Banshee escorts for the engineers, even if the Condor has nightgale back up you will still win. Make use of the Scarab’s and the Engineers sheild ability’s and watch out for nightgale smoke being used to blind your scarab, if they us it simply move your scarab out of the smoke and it will resume killing the nightgale and Condor
This, when i see Scarab with engineeres and i don’t have leader power to take healers out im backing the yoink out :v
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> > > > I like to play 2v2 with a friend and we both prefer banished. If we come up against a pair of UNSC it’s all but definite they’ll start with marines and then lead up to a condor. Thing is with banished Assault Elites suck and they are the only real Anti-Infantry. But you need tech 2, so no use in a rush. If you do surive the marine onslaught, you have to start producing anti-air. So either a but load of banshees or reavers. Thing is Reavers like to group together and imo kinda suck. Their DPS feels low and if an unit is destroyed the rest of their incoming rockets fly off into the distance.
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> > > > It’s not impossible to destroy one but as soon as one is gone there is another straight after so I feel like I’m on the defensive constantly with a counter attack out of the question since all my units take their sweet time taking down their ult. Is it because my strat isn’t good enough or is it just because 2 people churning out Condors over and over make it difficult to actually do anything? Any help or do you have the same problem?
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> > > Well forst of all that is indeed not what all UNSC does. If anything for me it is a last resort I pull when I feel the opponent doesn’t expect it. Also reavers might be a bit underpowered but they still work. Also bamshees are good, you just need to have like half pop of them or something. Maybe even less.
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> > > But yeah. I feel like you haven’t ran into many high level players if all your opponents do is get a condor out as soon as they can…
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> > Me and my friend did just that, except he created all reavers and defended, I created banshees and tried to counter attack. It was impossible because as soon as we killed one condor with 5 nightingales surrounding it, another came in straight after. It was non stop for around 30 minutes. Eventually I managed to teleport like 10 locust behind their bases but still…
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> That’s a good stratagy (the locusts) but honestly you can only have like two, MAYBE 3 condors and 3 is assuming absolute full pop I think. I don’t know max pop off my head but I know a condor is 40 so if it’s 100 then 2 and if 120 then 3 but honestly condors are pretty good overall but really should only be used against bases due to them being able to attack more than one target at once and their Y ability.
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> But what I am saying is that they would have had to have had a TON of supplies AND power to CONSTANTLY be pumping them and sending them to die basically. So you are clearly doing something wrong initially by letting your opponent get such a MASSIVE echonomy advantage over you.
He says playing twos though, meaning the Condors are for different players. Like kill yellow Condor but here comes red Condor, kill red Condor and oh look Yellow Condor, kill yellow Condor and hey good to see you again Red Condor.
But yes it sounds like they are doing something wrong to allow that, atleast they could kill them faster. Sounds like they might not be targeting the Nightgale support first to take out its healing and they aren’t using their glasing beams