Honestly Halo community, what the hell? I was incredibly proud to say that I played Halo:CE and Halo 2, and I defended what a great community we had. But honestly enough is ENOUGH.
I just counted the amount of topics complaining, and nitpicking, and -Yoinking!-. You want to know something? 10/15 topics on the first page are topics complaining. I don’t remember the last time people mainly discussed easter eggs, glitches, tricks, story, or ideas.
All of you veterans, n00bs, trolls, EVERYONE SHUT UP. Honestly you can express your opinion, and if you have a problem that’s awesome. BUT THERES ALREADY A DAMN TOPIC ABOUT IT.
The biggest change from 10 years ago, when Halo was launched is the change in community. It sucks now. It isn’t fun to play with random people as everyone complains, it isn’t fun to post in these forums because the amount of useful information is barley ever there.
This game was created by humans, there are going to be problems. But those problems shouldn’t be the focus of this board, it should be discussion of what I mentioned above.
EDIT: Didn’t expect six pages…but thanks for taking the time to view this. bs angel edited it, sorry for being so blunt :X.
tl;dr: Stop complaining! 343 gave us the classic map pack we’ve been wanting for years, lets discuss things like story, easter eggs, and fun stuff. Don’t remake threads about complaining!
It’s part of life. Nitpickers are annoying but if need be, ignore them. As long as you enjoy the experience (CE:A in this case) who cares what others think? You determine your own personal experience, for better or worse. Don’t let the complainers ruin it for you.
Deal with it and move on. That’s what i do.
If 343 does mess up, we will let them know. Complaints are needed otherwise how can they read our minds if we don’t type our thoughts on this forum? How can a product improve? Complaining is totally viable as long as you don’t moan and have legitimate concerns that need to be addressed. I hope you learn the different between the two OP.
Good Example: The early CE:A Master Chief armor was horrible. Due to backlash from the fans on the forums and what not, 343/Saber changed it and it looks much more improved in the final version. This is an example of a legitimate complaint.
Bad Example: OMG WHY U NO GIV USSSSZ CE MP!??/!? YOU SUCK 343I BLAM! REACH YOU DON"T KNOW HOW TO MAKE GAMES! BUNGEEEE DA BEST! THE ANNIVERSARY PLAYLISTS RRRR GARrrrbAGE!.
> Honestly Halo community, what the hell? I was incredibly proud to say that I played Halo:CE and Halo 2, and I defended what a great community we had. But honestly enough is ENOUGH.
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> I just counted the amount of topics complaining, and nitpicking, and -Yoink!-. You want to know something? 10/15 topics on the first page are topics complaining. I don’t remember the last time people mainly discussed easter eggs, glitches, tricks, story, or ideas.
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> All of you veterans, n00bs, trolls, EVERYONE SHUT UP. Honestly you can express your opinion, and if you have a problem that’s awesome. BUT THERES ALREADY A DAMN TOPIC ABOUT IT.
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> The biggest change from 10 years ago, when Halo was launched is the change in community. It sucks now. It isn’t fun to play with random people as everyone complains, it isn’t fun to post in these forums because the amount of useful information is barley ever there.
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> This game was created by humans, there are going to be problems. But those problems shouldn’t be the focus of this board, it should be discussion of what I mentioned above. And I know I’m not king of the internet, but I think I speak for alot of people when I say I would be deeply appreciative if you would refrain from speaking…
this why I only play matchmaking to find friends, and then play with friends most the time, and it’s very hard with today’s community. Anyways great post, but I’d like to point a lot of people will go to a game series they hates site and make troll topics like these, I’m sure Halo fans do this on COD, too.
Its actually pretty funny. Bungie was pretty good at keeping tabs on their community and making them feel involved, but I feel fairly confident that nobody at 343 gives two craps about any of the griping going on in these particular forums. And that’s not a dig on 343. They don’t need to worry about it. They are the Halo franchise. They don’t need to worry about if their fan base will like this vs. that or stuff an independent studio does.
Its not like 343 is some backwater organization that doesn’t know how to manufacture a product. It’s MICROSOFT. They have testers and focus groups and all sorts of efforts that went into the making of this game.
It is silly to think that they care about some random person on the internet who has lag.
They’re too busy working on something else to address possible issues with a product that’s already on shelves.
> > Right… if things weren’t so terrible we wouldn’t need to complain.
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> What’s terrible? The fact that 343 did EXACTLY what we asked for? Remade the CEA campaign?
Majority of the gripes are with the multiplayer portion. 343 tooted their horn saying “we have a gametype that makes Reach play like CE” but in reality it doesn’t play anything like. People are pissed, and have a right to be pissed.
To be honest, 90% of all the hate threads are peoples persoanl issues with CEA.
I don’t mind he threads like, “Acheivments won’t unlock” or “Can’t access playlists” because they are actual issues with the game that need dealing with as a whole.
But its realy annoying to see all the “I HATE CEA PIS0L COZ IT SU<KS AND OVER POVVERD! IM LEAVING HALO FOR GUD, AND IM GONA FROW MYSELF OFF A BRIDGE.”
Get over yourselfs, seriously.
They should have a Headline topic which says;
“Post your Halo CEA/Reach MM beefs here!”
That way all the hate is in one thread and any thread created about someones personal issues would get deleted.
> Its actually pretty funny. Bungie was pretty good at keeping tabs on their community and making them feel involved, but I feel fairly confident that nobody at 343 gives two craps about any of the griping going on in these particular forums. And that’s not a dig on 343. They don’t need to worry about it. They are the Halo franchise. They don’t need to worry about if their fan base will like this vs. that or stuff an independent studio does.
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> Its not like 343 is some backwater organization that doesn’t know how to manufacture a product. It’s MICROSOFT. They have testers and focus groups and all sorts of efforts that went into the making of this game.
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> It is silly to think that they care about some random person on the internet who has lag.
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> They’re too busy working on something else to address possible issues with a product that’s already on shelves.
I disagree they often spotlight community creations AND they hired BS angel as a community manager.
> > > Right… if things weren’t so terrible we wouldn’t need to complain.
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> > What’s terrible? The fact that 343 did EXACTLY what we asked for? Remade the CEA campaign?
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> Majority of the gripes are with the multiplayer portion. 343 tooted their horn saying “we have a gametype that makes Reach play like CE” but in reality it doesn’t play anything like. People are pissed, and have a right to be pissed.
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> Oh, and I never asked for a re-make of CE… so…
If you never asked for a CE remake then whats the problem? They said they could make it as close as possible to the original. You have to realize you aren’t playing with the guy sitting on the couch next to you 100 percent of the time. They did what would work for most, you can’t please all.
> I disagree they often spotlight community creations AND they hired BS angel as a community manager.
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> They seem pretty intouch with their community.
343 is doing a great job, I agree with you 100 percent.
> To be honest, 90% of all the hate threads are peoples persoanl issues with CEA.
> I don’t mind he threads like, “Acheivments won’t unlock” or “Can’t access playlists” because they are actual issues with the game that need dealing with as a whole.
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> But its realy annoying to see all the “I HATE CEA PIS0L COZ IT SU<KS AND OVER POVVERD! IM LEAVING HALO FOR GUD, AND IM GONA FROW MYSELF OFF A BRIDGE.”
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> Get over yourselfs, seriously.
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> They should have a Headline topic which says;
> “Post your Halo CEA/Reach MM beefs here!”
> That way all the hate is in one thread and any thread created about someones personal issues would get deleted.
Exactly problems that are ACTUAL problems that cause the game to work unlike it was intended should get their own thread.
> > > > Right… if things weren’t so terrible we wouldn’t need to complain.
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> > > What’s terrible? The fact that 343 did EXACTLY what we asked for? Remade the CEA campaign?
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> > Majority of the gripes are with the multiplayer portion. 343 tooted their horn saying “we have a gametype that makes Reach play like CE” but in reality it doesn’t play anything like. People are pissed, and have a right to be pissed.
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> > Oh, and I never asked for a re-make of CE… so…
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> If you never asked for a CE remake then whats the problem? They said they could make it as close as possible to the original. You have to realize you aren’t playing with the guy sitting on the couch next to you 100 percent of the time. They did what would work for most, you can’t please all.
What don’t you get about it “doesn’t play anything like”? There’s easy little tweaks to make the CEA gametype play more like CE. For instance, restoring the magnum to its rightful place by giving it zero bloom. Giving us 2 nades off spawn, increased jump height. Not sure about the powerups, but if they’re not on a one minute timer they could fix that too. I don’t know… that’s about all you can do in lolTUReach. Still, it’d be better that current lolAniv.TUReach.
And my problem is that 343 were falsely advertising when they said they had a gametype that plays similar to CE.
> I disagree they often spotlight community creations AND they hired BS angel as a community manager.
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> They seem pretty intouch with their community.
that’s not exactly what I was referring to, and you’re right. they’re doing a lot on the front end to keep everyone involved, especially with bringing Bungie fans over to 343’s organization.
But on the back end, with all this technical stuff like the 4:3 aspect ratio and whatnot…there isn’t a Video Quality Assurance manager scouring the forums today looking for feedback on why Halo: anniversary isn’t in standard def. Nobody at 343 cares.
> > > > > Right… if things weren’t so terrible we wouldn’t need to complain.
> > > >
> > > > What’s terrible? The fact that 343 did EXACTLY what we asked for? Remade the CEA campaign?
> > >
> > > Majority of the gripes are with the multiplayer portion. 343 tooted their horn saying “we have a gametype that makes Reach play like CE” but in reality it doesn’t play anything like. People are pissed, and have a right to be pissed.
> > >
> > > Oh, and I never asked for a re-make of CE… so…
> >
> > If you never asked for a CE remake then whats the problem? They said they could make it as close as possible to the original. You have to realize you aren’t playing with the guy sitting on the couch next to you 100 percent of the time. They did what would work for most, you can’t please all.
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> What don’t you get about it “doesn’t play anything like”? There’s easy little tweaks to make the CEA gametype play more like CE. For instance, restoring the magnum to its rightful place by giving it zero bloom. Giving us 2 nades off spawn, increased jump height. Not sure about the powerups, but if they’re not on a one minute timer they could fix that too. I don’t know… that’s about all you can do in lolTUReach. Still, it’d be better that current lolAniv.TUReach.
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> And my problem is that 343 were falsely advertising when they said they had a gametype that plays similar to CE.
even if it had zero bloom, the pistol has massive spread…
> > I disagree they often spotlight community creations AND they hired BS angel as a community manager.
> >
> > They seem pretty intouch with their community.
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> 343 is doing a great job, I agree with you 100 percent.
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> > To be honest, 90% of all the hate threads are peoples persoanl issues with CEA.
> > I don’t mind he threads like, “Acheivments won’t unlock” or “Can’t access playlists” because they are actual issues with the game that need dealing with as a whole.
> >
> > But its realy annoying to see all the “I HATE CEA PIS0L COZ IT SU<KS AND OVER POVVERD! IM LEAVING HALO FOR GUD, AND IM GONA FROW MYSELF OFF A BRIDGE.”
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> > Get over yourselfs, seriously.
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> >
> > They should have a Headline topic which says;
> > “Post your Halo CEA/Reach MM beefs here!”
> > That way all the hate is in one thread and any thread created about someones personal issues would get deleted.
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> Exactly problems that are ACTUAL problems that cause the game to work unlike it was intended should get their own thread.
That’s why I created the constructive criticism thread. There are a lot of bugs that people have encountered that were not in the original and for me, they really take away from the experience. My audio should not be popping/crackling every 10 seconds and my bullets shouldn’t hit an invisible wall when I’m shooting. I can understand the hate for those complaining about new design choices, sounds of weapons, etc. Hopefully a patch can fix a lot of these issues though.
> > > > > > Right… if things weren’t so terrible we wouldn’t need to complain.
> > > > >
> > > > > What’s terrible? The fact that 343 did EXACTLY what we asked for? Remade the CEA campaign?
> > > >
> > > > Majority of the gripes are with the multiplayer portion. 343 tooted their horn saying “we have a gametype that makes Reach play like CE” but in reality it doesn’t play anything like. People are pissed, and have a right to be pissed.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, and I never asked for a re-make of CE… so…
> > >
> > > If you never asked for a CE remake then whats the problem? They said they could make it as close as possible to the original. You have to realize you aren’t playing with the guy sitting on the couch next to you 100 percent of the time. They did what would work for most, you can’t please all.
> >
> > What don’t you get about it “doesn’t play anything like”? There’s easy little tweaks to make the CEA gametype play more like CE. For instance, restoring the magnum to its rightful place by giving it zero bloom. Giving us 2 nades off spawn, increased jump height. Not sure about the powerups, but if they’re not on a one minute timer they could fix that too. I don’t know… that’s about all you can do in lolTUReach. Still, it’d be better that current lolAniv.TUReach.
> >
> > And my problem is that 343 were falsely advertising when they said they had a gametype that plays similar to CE.
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> even if it had zero bloom, the pistol has massive spread…
Kill the spread too. Impossible? Give us a 3 shot DMR. It handles a lot like the pistol actually… well… maybe… kinda… sorta… sigh
> > > > > Right… if things weren’t so terrible we wouldn’t need to complain.
> > > >
> > > > What’s terrible? The fact that 343 did EXACTLY what we asked for? Remade the CEA campaign?
> > >
> > > Majority of the gripes are with the multiplayer portion. 343 tooted their horn saying “we have a gametype that makes Reach play like CE” but in reality it doesn’t play anything like. People are pissed, and have a right to be pissed.
> > >
> > > Oh, and I never asked for a re-make of CE… so…
> >
> > If you never asked for a CE remake then whats the problem? They said they could make it as close as possible to the original. You have to realize you aren’t playing with the guy sitting on the couch next to you 100 percent of the time. They did what would work for most, you can’t please all.
>
> What don’t you get about it “doesn’t play anything like”? There’s easy little tweaks to make the CEA gametype play more like CE. For instance, restoring the magnum to its rightful place by giving it zero bloom. Giving us 2 nades off spawn, increased jump height. Not sure about the powerups, but if they’re not on a one minute timer they could fix that too. I don’t know… that’s about all you can do in lolTUReach. Still, it’d be better that current lolAniv.TUReach.
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> And my problem is that 343 were falsely advertising when they said they had a gametype that plays similar to CE.
Well the only solution I can offer you is to play the original. If you have any knowledge of how game engines work you know Reach’s engine can’t be EXACTLY the same as CE’s engine. It just isn’t possible.
Reach was never developed with competitiveness in mind as shown by bloom, lack of ranked playlists, and lack of a skill rank. There’s just nothing you can do, sorry it doesn’t meet YOUR PERSONAL expectations.
> > > > > > Right… if things weren’t so terrible we wouldn’t need to complain.
> > > > >
> > > > > What’s terrible? The fact that 343 did EXACTLY what we asked for? Remade the CEA campaign?
> > > >
> > > > Majority of the gripes are with the multiplayer portion. 343 tooted their horn saying “we have a gametype that makes Reach play like CE” but in reality it doesn’t play anything like. People are pissed, and have a right to be pissed.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, and I never asked for a re-make of CE… so…
> > >
> > > If you never asked for a CE remake then whats the problem? They said they could make it as close as possible to the original. You have to realize you aren’t playing with the guy sitting on the couch next to you 100 percent of the time. They did what would work for most, you can’t please all.
> >
> > What don’t you get about it “doesn’t play anything like”? There’s easy little tweaks to make the CEA gametype play more like CE. For instance, restoring the magnum to its rightful place by giving it zero bloom. Giving us 2 nades off spawn, increased jump height. Not sure about the powerups, but if they’re not on a one minute timer they could fix that too. I don’t know… that’s about all you can do in lolTUReach. Still, it’d be better that current lolAniv.TUReach.
> >
> > And my problem is that 343 were falsely advertising when they said they had a gametype that plays similar to CE.
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> Well the only solution I can offer you is to play the original. If you have any knowledge of how game engines work you know Reach’s engine can’t be EXACTLY the same as CE’s engine. It just isn’t possible.
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> Reach was never developed with competitiveness in mind as shown by bloom, lack of ranked playlists, and lack of a skill rank. There’s just nothing you can do, sorry it doesn’t meet YOUR PERSONAL expectations.
No. It doesn’t meet CE’s expectations. Not even half way.
> > Right… if things weren’t so terrible we wouldn’t need to complain.
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> What’s terrible? The fact that 343 did EXACTLY what we asked for? Remade the CEA campaign?
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> > U Mad?
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> Yes actually I am.
Why would anyone ask for CE campaign but now with a new coat of paint. NOBODY ASKED FOR IT. When people clamored for CE to be remade we wanted MP not campaign, the only thing a remake of CE would give new would be online XBL matchmaking, why would I want to play the same campaign i have played over 20+ times but now with pretty pictures.