From a reddit post I found. Here’s the link so you can see what I’m referring to. (remove the space before “.com”)
reddit .com/r/halo/comments/r2wvgs/a_glitch_i_found_in_post_lobby/
Carter helm with Yoroi top attachment. Mark V breach chest with Yoroi samurai skirt. Emile’s right shoulder. This is the type of stuff we’re missing out on right now.
IMO, this looks absolutely sick. This is what a next gen, high level, Spartan samurai could look like if we could just remove the core restrictions or find some kind of alternative to the armor core system. I will keep pushing for this as long as I can.
Absolutely love the gameplay right now., and I appreciate the work 343 has put into it. Just please, modify the customization so we can make Spartans look like this while slaying.
I’d be fine with armour cores if colours were at least universal. The only stuff I like that I can grab right now is the Reach stuff but basically all the coatings are just basic colours with one or two that have different coloured shoulders. And the basic colour selection isn’t even fleshed out.
I’m just gonna point out the reasoning behind segregated armor cores is because of an extremely common complaint about Halo 4 and 5 was that the armors were ugly and showed no signs of uniformity like the bungie era armors did. And yes this was a thing a reddit thread did a huge breakdown and pointed out that none of them looked like they belonged on the “mjolnir” platform which nearly everyone in the comments basically boiled down to “Yeah that explains it to my brain goblins”. Mixing cores which are designed to be very distinctly different would be reverting back to the very same thing people were complaining about. We don’t see it right now because we only have mark 7 and reach and yoroi to compare as of right now and mark 7 and reach look very similar but if they ever did 343 era armors again as they were then cores being separate is to deter those old complaints.
Ah nearly forgot also that when it was revealed armor cores were a thing those same people who complained about armors being too visually different rejoiced at the idea of them because then they can still do what they want without creating abomination the spartan.
Completely agree. I would just like more color options in general, especially default. Like I love the look of the Yoroi armor, but there’s literally only one color available by default without paying and it’s so completely drab that I just use the Mark VII instead since I can be a slightly less drab red. And the other color you can get free for it just looks terrible, imo.
I went into a match the today, and all three of my teammates had identical armor. I would have thought to myself “Did they stick me with bots?” except the bots look more unique than the players right now.
I actually think armour cores are a good idea, I like that each set feels distinct from each other. I think some of the way they have gone about it is stupid. MK V (B) as a set is dumb, just make it MK V set. How is it B when you don’t even get the actual helmet for ages?
The monitisation of the armour is another issue. I think colours should be univeral for a start, including visor colours. But the armour itself should stay separate and we shouldn’t have to pay for things like Recon Shoulder Pads for Emile’s specific shoulder pad.
On top of this, the way armour is unlocked is stupid, a battlepass is fine I guess but we need to have a variety of unlocks, or tie some to a ranking system like Reach, we should be able to look different fast, instead of having to grind up to Battlepass level 20 to start looking seperate from each other.
I get what you’re saying. I just personally feel like the Halo 4/5 issue was more of an art style issue than an armor issue. What I heard more than anything was that the armor looked plastic and that most gear sets were so strange looking that they looked like they belonged to other franchises like Warframe.
In contrast, H3 MCC has given us multiple themed sets, that at minimum (mostly) all look like Spartan armor. Save for maybe a few Season 8 pieces, you can look at a Spartan with a MK VI helm, fireteam raven chest, Halo Online legs, a katana, and still see that it’s a Halo 3 spartan.
Halo Infinite fixed the inconsistent art style problems of H4&5, but then added cores as a patch to a problem that the art style created. At least, that’s how I see it. Plus, I get that not everyone will like some combinations of armor, but giving us less options just feels like a weird solution that alienates the parts of the community that like to experiment.
Oh the simple answer for the naming of the Mark V(B) is because that is just what the armor set was called in Reach’s lore since you didn’t play as a for real big boy spartan 2 so they created a lore reason why an inferior knockoff can still “wear” mjolnir. If we ever do see a Mark V core it most likely is gonna be either actually a fracture core to look like a CE spartan down to texturing and polygon count or its gonna be the Mark VI core and will be full of Halo 3 armors.
That is fair! Not everyone will share the same exact reasonings behind why they hated the 343 armors I myself hated them because I thought 343 leaned too hard into looking ridiculously sci fi when that just isn’t halo?
And personally I don’t really agree with the MCC thing there is something very distinct about the armors from Halo Online that does not look like they properly mesh with the original armors from 3. Of course there was an attempt but from the outset they weren’t designed with 3 in mind since they weren’t designed for 3 to begin with.
Do I hate them? Some of them! but some I give a pass on but I don’t think they mesh well at all with the original armors. They don’t feel like they were designed to mix with 3’s stuff.
I forgot to address really the fix while retaining cores would have been simply release even more stuff than we have currently available. We know full well theres more armors that even bots are wearing but we’ve been tied down to be second class citizens of the fashion world compared to the AI overlords. Damn you Cortana.
That’s actually not the case. Mark V is the armour you wear in Halo Reach, the Mark V (B) is just a helmet variation, the actual armour core is the exact same, minus the ability to incorporate an ai in the armour (ironic considering Halo Infinites choice to include them hahaha) that’s why you can get the Mark V helmet and Grenadier for example. The armour was specifically given to Noble Team as one of the very few Spartan 3 Teams to be given actual Spartan armour because of the role they had.
Even if that was the case though, it doesn’t explain why the core is called V (b) and yet it doesn’t come with the actual helmet the core is named after hahaha.
Actually There is holdover from the original intent of Reach in Infinite currently that oddly carried over? There is more to the B variant than just the helmet the original para shoulders even in Reach was originally the B variant shoulder guards but Bungie renamed them. For some reason 343 has reverted this in Infinite and now the B shoulders are back to being categorized under the V(B) variant.
And visor colors. There’s really no reason for these to be separate. My guess is that each armor component has a color value that references a list of them displayed on the coating. I’d be floored if someone said there is a unique version of an armor component for each coating. Seems like a very backwards way to design it.
What’s the point of armor cores if they are universal? They are specifically made so that certain pieces don’t clip and look stupid. As a lorehead I really enjoy the armor cores as pieces are made specifically for that armor system. The only thing that should be cross-core is coatings, I really enjoy the cores having unique armors to that specific core.
But what you are specifically talking about is armour types, not actual core functionality. This is like if they decided to give us the Recon armour core and just include the different types of Recon, it makes little sense to call it that. The Mark V and V (B) are functionality the exact same. What it basically is, is “this is all the Reach armour under a core” which is fine, but it might as well be called Mark V, especially since it doesn’t even come with Mark V (B) to start with.
But it does come with the helmet? Its the first helmet the Reach core comes with. Whats missing is the original Mark V helmet. I will concede that there is very little difference but since the Reach core’s intention is to just port over the Reach armors they may intend to do something with an actual V core.
Even at level 20 you have like two extra helmets unlocked, it’s silly. For a week everyone was just rocking the starter set. Now some people are also rocking the bubble helmet. Everyone still basically looks the same. I have about 200 games under my belt now and I have yet to see anything other than the basic helms, EVA or Commando - Commando I saw for the first time yesterday. Hopefully that’s at least an indication that people aren’t spending too much money right now.
Personally I really like the Battlepass system, when done well.