I would have rather pay $100 for both the campaign and multiplayer bc this free to play system is destroying the community and has driven a lot of old time halo fans away. Thanks, 343. I guess is all about the money!! So sad to see this. I used to tell my cod friends that halo was all about the community and now I feel stupid lol.
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The multiplayer will hold him dont worry lol unless yall have games pass then I’ll be fair the purchase is a bit wasteful but I have games pass and have decided on owning the digital or hard copy of the game as well.
Why? It’s literally never going to be taken off GamePass.
destiny 2 requires 100k exp per level up. This doesn’t speed up nor slow down, yet you feel reward for your time spent unlike infinite. It shouldn’t take 2-3 hours to simply rank up once where I could load up destiny and gain 5+ levels within that time span, you actually feel rewarded for playing the game and doing it challenge’s. Playing infinite and seeing the extremely impossible challenge’s and the 50xp per game reward does nothing but puts me off and wonder how we’ve gotten from reach and MCC to this horrible system.
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Free to play have it issues. You place things behind money that use to be earned by achievements and challenges people are going to be mad, and rightfully so.
I want to earn those pieces by doing challenges/ achievements. Not throwing money at the company.
(As someone who went into game design a model can be priced at an easy $300+ dollars. So you could say $20 is a good price however from another pov it’s wrong so wrong
Here’s 50 exp per game tho!
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Oh sheer reason I love the game it feels like old halo aside from the battle pass. Though theres other things I believe need some tweaking like the ability to turn off cross play completely as 343i’s system ignores privacy settings that would prevent such a thing from being forced.
I can understand putting ultra unique armor cores behind a paywall like the samurai armor. But the slow progression mixed with the inability to have hardly any uniqueness without paying is ridiculous. 343i, I really think you would earn more money from loyal fans that are happy to purchase exceedingly unique armors, than angry fans who feel forced to spend money to get any customization at all. This is a beautiful game and monetizing it like this is already tarnishing it’s reputation. I have heard from many loyal Halo fans that customization and monetization is a big decider on whether they will play the game or not.
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As such it’s not free.
Just like this first battlepass is “free”.
Are you talking about the maps? Because yes they are quite literally free. In this scenario you can’t buy maps because their cost is recouped by other features.
Stretching it real thin trying to blame the developers on that kind of thing
Not really. In both scenarios you see something you want and if you want it you have to pay for it. But in one scenario you’re being sold actual gameplay and not cosmetics.
And that’s somehow the developer’s fault? What your friends decide to do?
Yes because that’s literally a system that was intentionally designed by the devs. There are plenty of games that allow you to join friends if they have the DLC. Older Halo games didn’t allow that, right?
They’re still going for frustrating,
Can you please actually read what I wrote and reply to it. I said “if the system is improved to not feel frustrating…” Respond to that. If the system isn’t changed to fit what I wrote, then obviously I wouldn’t stand by what I said immediately following.
It is not that they are making money which is the issue.
It is how they are making it.
I’m aware. That’s why I laid out the two options and have been advocating in here and elsewhere that the system needs improvement, but it’s far from “the most predatory monetization scheme in a long time”
Depends on how long ago you look.
We still have massively popular games being played right now with lootboxes, friendo. Literal gambling.
And it’ll continue to be slow unless i343 adress the challenge tracking bottleneck.
And, once again, I’ve already mentioned in here and elsewhere that it shouldn’t be frustrating. So you can keep beating on that dead horse all you want, but my previous statements are still fine.
343 should at least give Free players the base armor cores of the Mjolnir (Mark V, VI and VII), because right now the lack of armor customization for free players is appalling. If you are a free player, the first time you can change your base color is at level 11, the next time is at level 41! The first and only time you can change you helmet is at level 81! This still wouldn’t be as terrible if the progression wasn’t made intentionally frustrating with 2/3rd of the free rewards being Challenge Swaps (because they know that the Challenges are intentionally frustrating too).
Please have some additional options or, if monetization is your crux, at the very least allow those who play through the campaign to unlock armor sets for some customization.
343 claims they want to make your Spartan experience more customized than ever. Well, it is very much within their power to do it.
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I think their take is more like a F (ail)
Halo: Finite Customization
Halo: Infinite Monetization
It is very frustrating. You do get to unlock helmets before 81.
What an amazing feeling to see armor unlock you cannot use.
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Next weeks “free” event is also a paid event… Not a lot of info on it right now but it seems like theres a paid and free tier of loot
So this turned out to be a load of bullcrap, right? I’m in the game right now and I don’t see any paid tier.
Lack luster Battle Pass (Destiny and other look better) and a lack luster event pass … plus a Macro level transaction shop. It is predatory, preys on FOMO due to the limited time event / rotation. It is just all around bad … and that isn’t touching on customization issues.
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Well initially i couldn’t see past my nose it seems. I was so excited to finally be able to play the game again after the flight and i wasn’t bothered too much about the progression or the store. I even bought the premium battle pass right away and now i have to say it, i don’t think it’s worth it. Honestly i think half the things i saw on the store this past week should be available for free or with the premium battle pass, they’re not worth buying even if the price was lower imo. I think 343 should really look at something like Destiny for both the season pass, the store and the customization. The game is still heavily monetize but for 10$ you get a lot more than what you get here and by completing weekly challenges you get “credits” (bright dust) to spend on the store. I haven’t bought anything with real money in Destiny and the customization (even though they messed with the transmog system) is really good. One thing that really bothers me here is that armor and weapons coating aren’t universal. I just unlocked the Yoroi armor and have literally one choice of color and i don’t even like it. Then i go to the store and see that i can spend another 20$ to look cool. I think way too many things are locked behind a grind or paywall. I don’t think xp boosters and challenges swap belong in a battle pass and if they do it means the progression system is flawed and it is. Even more so with this matchmaking system, for example right now i have to capture enemy flags and guess how many ctf games i entered since i started to play tonight? 0. Sorry for the long post btw, but i feel a bit heartbroken now because i love this game, i think the gameplay is amazing and i didn’t expect to be talking about this at all.
Edit: one last thing, i don’t want to hear the argument that it’s free to play. Realistically speaking people who are playing the multiplayer are also going to buy the campaign. Except for a few exceptions no one is going to play Halo just for its multiplayer alone come on.
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Just wanted to second this post. I know this is a big topic that a lot of people are concerned about and I’m one of them. If the stuff in the store was like, a dollar per item or less this would be fine. But given that progression is super slow and you don’t get anything but challenge swaps and xp boosts without paying for the battlepass AND there’s no XP granted for doing well in a game, 20 dollars for a single set of armor simply seems predatory.
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The battle pass system was a good idea (the buy once, finish whenever you want part), and it wasn’t so bad in the early flights but people quickly realized both the battle pass and the armor coating system was going to be heavily monetized.
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It’s funny because you’re comparing a game made for mobile (yes it’s on Switch but it’s for mobile, despite that Nintendo says) that was made for a very young, casual, audience with no idea of the value of the “content” they are purchasing and Halo Infinite, who was turned free-to-play to gather a broader audience but 343 failed to realize nobody outside the Halo niche cares about Halo, and that’s the bottom line.
The system that works on mobile is very frowned upon on PC. I don’t know about Console gaming as I’ve stopped playing since the PS3 but on PC, MTX are a gray area where cosmetics that don’t impact gameplay are somewhat accepted, depending on price/value (at least for the more mature, NOT OLD, audience).
Let’s be honest this isn’t a beta regardless of what 343i claims. No proper beta releases this close to a release date while dev’s are not frequently asking for feedback and they shouldn’t be charging anything in the middle of a beta because beta’s are meant for testing purposes only. Beta is clearly be used to replace early access to try dismiss complaints.
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It is really bad. I have absolutely no problem with paying for the Battlepass and some cosmetics that I really like, my plan was spending money in Halo this way.
But they dropped the ball… this is a scam: a pass called “Heroes of Reach” that doesn’t have many reach armors, trailers that show event armors that are not in event but in the store.
When I saw the BP I was thinking “Ok, this is the first BP and maybe making armors is not really important. Thats why there are so few of them in the BP”, but they are keeping most of the content that SHOULD be in the BP, and not only that: the BP takes forever to finish so you have to spend extra money in level skips or exp boots
Some users are saying that we should stop complaining but refuse, if we shut up about it they will believe we give up. And this game is too good to let it die because of MS/343 Greediness
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