I love Halo. I have every novel, graphic novel, Limited/Legendary Edition of every game. Hell, I went all out and spent over $800 on Halo 5: Guardians this year! But for the first time, a Halo game disappointed me. I know that many will disagree with me. And everyone is entitled to their opinions and beliefs. But this is simply my experience, nothing more.
The campaign was a lie. A surprise that shocked me to the core, but still a lie. A story entirely about hunting John-117 and his comrades. No, Cortana going power crazy instead. I liked the idea behind Warden Eternal. It was awesome. But the campaign seemed dry, uncatchy and not fascinating. The environments we went to were bland in my opinion. And finally, Chief 3 mission and Locke 12 missions. I was given the understanding it would almost be half and half. This is unfair. I hope that the next go-round, John gets more playability before he dies. Yes you heard right. I fully believe that in the next installment, he will die a tragic death. One more note, if you beat all four campaigns on Legendary difficulty in the Master Chief Collection you unlock armor in Halo 5. But if you beat Halo 5 Legendary difficulty then you get nothing. What the hell?
Now, on to multiplayer. I don’t like it. You have to play a lot to gamble for things or pay money. So either time or money. As a single dad working 60 hours a week, I don’t have either that much (the only reason I was able to spend $800 on Halo 5 is because I saved up money to the side for over 6 months, plus I was working two jobs at 70-80 hours a week at the time). I am not a pro. I simply never will be. I know this. But I play Halo for story and for fun. Halo 4 felt perfect to me. Halo 5 feels off. I miss Spartan Ops, because it did extend the story. And it was cooperative. This game doesn’t feel that way. And forge mode, play lists delayed? Split screen sacrificed to keep frame rate? Honestly.
In the end, I do like a few things Halo 5 has. A scope for the Assault Rifle. Pre-Order bonuses can be unlocked normally eventually. And ODST emblem! Damn, I’ve been waiting so long for that. And the only thing that’s got me hyped for Halo 6 is the Legendary Ending of Halo 5. That is all. I’m sorry if others feel I’m crazy, stupid or just plain wrong with my opinions on this. But this is how I feel. Not how others feel. Unless they agree then that’s different. But I’m complaining on my behalf.
For me Halo 5 is 50/50 there’s a lot of good and a lot of bad, but that’s the same for every Halo. Halo 5 fixes all the issues I had about Halo 4 but also ruined everything that was good about Halo 4 as well.
But I’m willing to let it go this time because it was 343s first time making a proper game on Xbox one hardware and the entire engine had to rebuilt as well, this likely took a lot of time to get done which is why we have a low amount of content and the Req system. However that doesn’t excuse them from the errors made with the campaign, from my perspective there was no way they could screw up but it somehow happened due to what ever excuse they have.
I’m sure by the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 5 should be filled with content and 343 would have learned from the mistakes of both 4 and 5.
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> For me Halo 5 is 50/50 there’s a lot of good and a lot of bad, but that’s the same for every Halo. Halo 5 fixes all the issues I had about Halo 4 but also ruined everything that was good about Halo 4 as well.
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> But I’m willing to let it go this time because it was 343s first time making a proper game on Xbox one hardware and the entire engine had to rebuilt as well, this likely took a lot of time to get done which is why we have a low amount of content and the Req system. However that doesn’t excuse them from the errors made with the campaign, from my perspective there was no way they could screw up but it somehow happened due to what ever excuse they have.
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> I’m sure by the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 5 should be filled with content and 343 would have learned from the mistakes of both 4 and 5.
Finally someone can make a post about the game with mature criticism instead of whining like a child. Good post OP.
I definitely agree the campaign was disappointing. I’m still hoping they’ll find a way to add on to it, or at least reward beating it on legendary. I started going through it on Legendary but stopped onve I realized there was no real reason to. I played it through on heroic first so I could enjoy the story without getting frustrated by having to repeat hard chapters over and over.
I do think there will be more and more updates that include the gametypes people want as well as updates and fixes. No it won’t all come at once, but eventually. The game is still quite new really, what three months now? I wouldn’t give up on it yet.
I played a TON the last while but it’s definitely slowed down to casual play for me. Excluding perhaps the week or two after each upcoming update. But really I’m satisfied with that.
Well, to start, you didn’t like campaign and I sympathize. I thought it was brilliant, you didn’t. Let’s agree to disagree as this is pretty strictly a question of opinion.
On to the req system. I get that you don’t like it because it rewards people with more cash or more time, but isn’t that the same argument you just used about legendary campaign? You wanted the investment in time to unlock something and it didn’t. Now you want people who invest the time to unlock reqs to not get reqs? Am I reading that wrong?
I too miss Spartan Ops. Halo should always have a non-campaign PvE mode, preferably one which can be played co-op, and preferably one which is integrated into matchmaking, as it was in Reach.
If you saw what this game would have looked like with a lower frame rate, only in the interest of preserving split screen, then you would have been just as unhappy for a different reason. That, or you don’t play on an HDTV.
Okay, I get that you were focused in your post on the things that disappointed you about this game, and that’s a perfectly legitimate use of the forum, but I have to ask: Were you not even a little impressed by Warzone? Were you not even a little impressed with forge? Or, if you’re not a forger, then I get that that wouldn’t matter. But I have to say, Warzone alone is reason to count this game amongst the best of Halos, in my humble opinion.
I’ve played Warzone, and it’s Dominion 2.0 in my humble opinion. I like the PvPvE, but these maps are way too big and not enough AI enemies. When I saw the trailer for Warzone, I expected total chaos from beginning to end. That’s a real battle scenario, right? Guns blazing everywhere, a lot of enemies and allies left and right, quick decision making? I love chaos on a Matchmaking game. It keeps you alert, awake and ready for anything and everything.
As for Legendary difficulty and reqs, I don’t know. Maybe I’m just old fashioned. Maybe I don’t know what I’m getting at. But I’ve played matchmaking on Halo 5 and wasn’t interested. I went back and played Halo 4 on the Xbox 360 and had a blast. With this in mind (in my opinion) something’s not right.
> As a single dad working 60 hours a week, I don’t have either that much (the only reason I was able to spend $800 on Halo 5 is because I saved up money to the side for over 6 months, plus I was working two jobs at 70-80 hours a week at the time)
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> I’ve played Warzone, and it’s Dominion 2.0 in my humble opinion. I like the PvPvE, but these maps are way too big and not enough AI enemies. When I saw the trailer for Warzone, I expected total chaos from beginning to end. That’s a real battle scenario, right? Guns blazing everywhere, a lot of enemies and allies left and right, quick decision making? I love chaos on a Matchmaking game. It keeps you alert, awake and ready for anything and everything.
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> As for Legendary difficulty and reqs, I don’t know. Maybe I’m just old fashioned. Maybe I don’t know what I’m getting at. But I’ve played matchmaking on Halo 5 and wasn’t interested. I went back and played Halo 4 on the Xbox 360 and had a blast. With this in mind (in my opinion) something’s not right.
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I do have to ask if you have tried out Warzone Assault. It has the insanity I was hoping to see in Warzone unfortunately no AI enemies.
as a father who works 60+ hours a week, i agree with you on this. campaign was a bust and multiplayer was alright at best. they still have a lot of work to do too so we will see if they can fix the multiplayer stuff that everyone on here.
As a dad who also works 60 plus hours a week. I applaud you for not only saving that kind of money but havi g time set aside for halo. I agree my level of excitement for this game\series is thru the roof but it left me feeling like i wasted my time With the campaign on legendary no reward just graphic art and achievements. Whooohoo. but i love playing multiplayer its very enjoyable and the unlocks keep me going. I love kicking back after a long hard day\week and playing halo after the kido goes to bed
> For me Halo 5 is 50/50 there’s a lot of good and a lot of bad, but that’s the same for every Halo. Halo 5 fixes all the issues I had about Halo 4 but also **ruined everything that was good about Halo 4 as well.**But I’m willing to let it go this time because it was 343s first time making a proper game on Xbox one hardware and the entire engine had to rebuilt as well, this likely took a lot of time to get done which is why we have a low amount of content and the Req system. However that doesn’t excuse them from the errors made with the campaign, from my perspective there was no way they could screw up but it somehow happened due to what ever excuse they have.I’m sure by the time Halo 6 comes out Halo 5 should be filled with content and 343 would have learned from the mistakes of both 4 and 5.
Very true about how Halo 5 was a 180 of Halo 4. It’s strange just how flip-flopped they are. Halo 4 was probably the most casual Halo yet and its base gameplay was not entirely up to par, Halo 5 is now one of the most competitive in the series and its base gameplay is its highlight feature. Halo 4’s Campaign level design was restricting and overly linear, Halo 5 is very open and allows the player a great degree of freedom. Halo 4’s story was one of the best in the franchise, Halo 5’s is the worst. Halo 4 was brimming with content, Halo 5 is as bare bones as they could possible get away with.
Where we differ is giving 343 another free pass for their mistakes. I’m sorry but the time for forgiveness is long past, especially when they make foolish errors on some of the games most basic and staple features, like a lack of any of the franchises core gametypes other than Slayer variants. It was one thing with H4 when they were just starting out as a studio. I still very much enjoyed H4, so I was willing to forgive them for their mistakes then. But two games in a row that drops the ball? I’m sorry but no. That is inexcusable. They had 3 -Yoinking!- years to make this game and drastically under preformed. Even with designing a whole new engine they could have and should have done more than they did. Or for whatever reason they couldn’t, then they should of had the foresight to delay the game to ensure they deliver on the promises they made. Instead we were given a half-baked product. And the campaign and its false advertising is completely inexcusable. I mean Brian Reed as lead writer? Seriously? Who the -Yoink- made THAT decision? Like it wasn’t already blatantly obvious that he was not even remotely up to the job. Now the entire Halo Universe is in shambles right now after Brian Reed smeared his half–Yoinked!- -Yoink- all over it. I’m sorry if I sound angry. I want to like 343 and want this game to be good so badly, but unfortunately I can’t excuse the dumbfounding mistakes they have made that ruins what could have potentially have been the best Halo game to date. A lot of its problems could be improved and fixed in postlaunch updates, but 343 is failing to do even that. We are only now, 3 months after release, receiving any HINT of a gametype update that should have been part of the base game. Something at 343 needs to change, because right now things are not working out. It seems like their main problem is a lack of leadership and oversight. What ever it takes, 343 needs to get it together and fast.
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> Arena keeps me playing, but it needs more playlists and maps, for sure.
Arena would be interesting if I still had a true Halo game to play on the side.
Rainbow 6 Siege is fun… but again, I still need my classic Halo on the side.
Because Halo 5’s Arena takes the place of proper Halo, I rate it 0/10.
Halo was the game I played for years, while playing other games for a couple of weeks here and there to change things up… and then always returning to Halo.
I don’t have that Halo anymore.
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> I’ve played Warzone, and it’s Dominion 2.0 in my humble opinion. I like the PvPvE, but these maps are way too big and not enough AI enemies. When I saw the trailer for Warzone, I expected total chaos from beginning to end. That’s a real battle scenario, right? Guns blazing everywhere, a lot of enemies and allies left and right, quick decision making? I love chaos on a Matchmaking game. It keeps you alert, awake and ready for anything and everything.
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> As for Legendary difficulty and reqs, I don’t know. Maybe I’m just old fashioned. Maybe I don’t know what I’m getting at. But I’ve played matchmaking on Halo 5 and wasn’t interested. I went back and played Halo 4 on the Xbox 360 and had a blast. With this in mind (in my opinion) something’s not right.
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I can certainly agree that there are things which feel seriously “off.” The failure of the H5 ranking system to accurately rank, and therefore to accurately match, players is a failure on a scale I cannot find words to describe. I won’t even play arena. Then again, I gave up 4v4 a long time ago for other reasons…
And I definitely know what you mean about Halo 4. I think I must be the only living CE veteran who prefers that game to the originals. But it always felt right to me, and the skill-based matchmaking in that game actually worked, something I couldn’t say for any other version of Halo ever, including 5. And sweet, sweet Spartan Ops. Almost worth loading up MCC just for that…
