This Is Not Halo Anymore!

I love how most of you halo fans think this is good and way better than reach and 4. However, in reality halo has died over the past few years because it became generic. Look at the viewers on twitch for example. http://i.imgur.com/kAOZZzu.png?1. That is just embarrassing how “Gaming Talk Shows” has more viewers. It bothers me how 343 does not listen to the majority of halo fans. Most of them hate reach 4 and even h2a but love halos 1-3.

343 I ask you take a look at what halos 1-3 did. Perfect innovation which maintained halos popularity for 9 Years. 1999-2008. 2009 Reach was released, halo shortly after lost popularity and was later kicked off MLG.

All of these gimmicks like sprint, spartan abilities (i.e Sprint Thrusters, Wall Climb, Ground Pound) take away from what halos multilayer was meant to be. Most people loved halo because of its simplicity and the skill that it took. But now its generic and boring. When i watch this game it looks like cod + destiny + titanfall + halo reach.

Why These Abilities are bad?

Sprint: Halo 4 - Why sprint ruined Halo for me - Not being punished for mistakes - Halo 2 Gameplay/+18 - YouTube.

I understand that they tried to balance it by making it so our shields do not regenerate when sprinting. However it is still terrible. Why you may ask? Because We cannot play re made maps from older halo games because they were not built off sprint. In addition, it is still not balanced many can still sprint away when shot and sit corner as their shield regenerates. Ya the enemy could chase them down but they would most likely be killed by enemies. Also, halo shouldn’t be a cat and mouse game. People think sprint makes halo more fast paced. However, in reality all it does is make halo a cat and mouse game which makes games go by slower. Finally, Sprint just strips away from the core of halos 1-3 which is what 343 promised to build halo 5 off of. Halos 1-3 Didn’t have sprint and weren’t slow paced because the maps were small and the movement speed was perfect.

Ground Pound: This is just so stupid how someone can be in the air than slam their fist into the ground instantly killing someone. All this does it take away from halos simplicity. It even lowers the skill gap because it gives players basically a power weapon that they spawn with.

Thrusters: All this does is help players live longer. For example if someone is getting shot they can just thrust around the corner and wait for their shields to regenerate. This indeed lowers the skill gap and simplicity of halo. Also, this refers back to my point made about sprint! It turns halo into a cat and mouse game. Kind like Tom and Jerry. Finally, Thrusters are bad because they just add more gimmicks to halo that make the game take less skill because players have a better chance of not dieing.

Wall Climb: This basically takes away the entire point of learning jumps and tricks on a map. New players can now make any jump that a veteran player can do because of wall climb. In old halos veterans took advantage of new players by making jumps to get either capture a flag, get a power weapon like over shield, or be hidden from the battle. For example If you watch halo 4 ctf some people know that you Gandhi hop on one of the to pillars to make it up to where the flag is spawned.

Sounds
Announcer: He shouldn’t sound heroic like 343 has tried to make him. I like it when he had that cool deep voice in halos 2 3 and reach. This goes back to what 343 promised. Building halo 5 off of halos 1-3. Many other halo fans would agree that how he sounded in halos 2 3 and reach was better than 4 and 5.

Gun Sounds: They are to loud! They are so weird sounding, clunky and just annoying to listen to. They honestly should have just used halo 3s BR sound. Deep and bad -Yoink- sounding. The sniper sounds like its broken and deformed lol. They need to make it loud and bad -Yoink- so that it has a epic feel to getting a kill with it. Even in Montages the halo reach sniper made reach montages really good because of how it sounded.

Halo 5 is focusing on balanced starts, arena gameplay with an emphasis on mobility and map control, utilizing numerous mobility mechanics to increase the skill gap.
What a shame, right?

It is Halo. It’s a new Halo that brings a fresh change to the franchise. I didn’t like Reach, I didn’t like 4. I like this one. If you want Halo as it was, play the MCC! Because it will never be as good as that if that’s what you’re looking for. I LOVED Halo 2 and Halo 3. I still do! But the franchise needs a fresh take.
I like that this reboot feels more… Spartan-y. I feel like a supersoldier battling supersoldiers. That’s how it should be.

Since when did views on a MOBA dominated site ever matter?

It’s looking great, play MCC if that’s your deal…progress evolution is what gaming is about!
Otherwise pull out an Atari 2600 and play Combat, or even further back Pong… and complain about how gaming holds nothing to it’s roots.

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> Halo 5 is focusing on balanced starts, arena gameplay with an emphasis on mobility and map control, utilizing numerous mobility mechanics to increase the skill gap.
> What a shame, right?

This abilities don’t increase the skill gap! They just make it easier to stay alive!

There’s more to Halo than just match control arena. If that’s all Halo 5 is about then yes the game will fail. There not bringing anything fresh to the series. If anything they seem to be dumbing it down. Halo 4 was a prime example of this when they started making grunts with big heads to make head shots easier. 343i clearly aren’t listening much to the fans, the population has been speaking for itself for a while for the later games. They should have seen the pattern when Halo 4 somehow did worse than Reach, even of the most demanded requests of Elites has never been returned.

It’s not really a reboot but 343i trying to change the formulae so much that there is less fun things to enjoy in the later games, not just the lack of Halo content and that’s where 343i are going wrong. If they want to bring new ideas then bring something worthwhile that people enjoyed like Bubble shields or duel wielding and things like things 64 BTB, add more race factions for multiplayer. There’s a big difference between adding terrible ideas like ADS and actually fun ideas that appeal to most people. Sure Halo needs innovation but it needs things that work, not using gimick’s for the sake that someone might think it’s funny for the first few matches.

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> It is Halo. It’s a new Halo that brings a fresh change to the franchise. I didn’t like Reach, I didn’t like 4. I like this one. If you want Halo as it was, play the MCC! Because it will never be as good as that if that’s what you’re looking for. I LOVED Halo 2 and Halo 3. I still do! But the franchise needs a fresh take.
> I like that this reboot feels more… Spartan-y. I feel like a supersoldier battling supersoldiers. That’s how it should be.

Yet look at counterstrike its the #1 competitive fps game right now. Its hardly changed at all. All they did was add new maps, weapons, and made the guns function better.

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> There’s more to Halo than just match control arena. If that’s all Halo 5 is about then yes the game will fail. There not bringing anything fresh to the series. If anything they seem to be dumbing it down. Halo 4 was a prime example of this when they started making grunts with big heads to make head shots easier. 343i clearly aren’t listening much to the fans, the population has been speaking for itself for a while for the later games. They should have seen the pattern when Halo 4 somehow did worse than Reach, even of the most demanded requests of Elites has never been returned.
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> It’s not really a reboot but 343i trying to change the formulae so much that there is less fun things to enjoy in the later games, not just the lack of Halo content and that’s where 343i are going wrong. If they want to bring new ideas then bring something worthwhile that people enjoyed like Bubble shields or duel wielding and things like things 64 BTB, add more race factions for multiplayer. There’s a big difference between adding terrible ideas like ADS and actually fun ideas that appeal to most people. Sure Halo needs innovation but it needs things that work, not using gimick’s for the sake that someone might think it’s funny for the first few matches.

Exactly! stick to halo 1-3s core and get halos fan base back!

Sorry, but this is the best halo that I have played. No others come close.

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> Sorry, but this is the best halo that I have played. No others come close.

I dont know how u guys like a game that isnt “Halo”

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> > There’s more to Halo than just match control arena. If that’s all Halo 5 is about then yes the game will fail. There not bringing anything fresh to the series. If anything they seem to be dumbing it down. Halo 4 was a prime example of this when they started making grunts with big heads to make head shots easier. 343i clearly aren’t listening much to the fans, the population has been speaking for itself for a while for the later games. They should have seen the pattern when Halo 4 somehow did worse than Reach, even of the most demanded requests of Elites has never been returned.
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> > It’s not really a reboot but 343i trying to change the formulae so much that there is less fun things to enjoy in the later games, not just the lack of Halo content and that’s where 343i are going wrong. If they want to bring new ideas then bring something worthwhile that people enjoyed like Bubble shields or duel wielding and things like things 64 BTB, add more race factions for multiplayer. There’s a big difference between adding terrible ideas like ADS and actually fun ideas that appeal to most people. Sure Halo needs innovation but it needs things that work, not using gimick’s for the sake that someone might think it’s funny for the first few matches.
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> Exactly! stick to halo 1-3s core and get halos fan base back!

I’d like that but that’s the problem since ignoring halo 5 campaign just because 343i messed up the game-play pretty badly is what concerns me. I suspect Halo 5’s matchmaking will be just as bad as Halo 4 matchmaking by the looks of it.

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> It is Halo. It’s a new Halo that brings a fresh change to the franchise. I didn’t like Reach, I didn’t like 4. I like this one. If you want Halo as it was, play the MCC! Because it will never be as good as that if that’s what you’re looking for. I LOVED Halo 2 and Halo 3. I still do! But the franchise needs a fresh take.
> I like that this reboot feels more… Spartan-y. I feel like a supersoldier battling supersoldiers. That’s how it should be.

Needs a fresh take? Really? Thats why reach and 4 failed? Soon to be 5. They should go back to what the majority of the fan base loves.

halo 5 = halo at its finest
the game cant stay in 2004 forever

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> > It is Halo. It’s a new Halo that brings a fresh change to the franchise. I didn’t like Reach, I didn’t like 4. I like this one. If you want Halo as it was, play the MCC! Because it will never be as good as that if that’s what you’re looking for. I LOVED Halo 2 and Halo 3. I still do! But the franchise needs a fresh take.
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> Needs a fresh take? Really? Thats why reach and 4 failed? Soon to be 5. They should go back to what the majority of the fan base loves.

Which is what? Halo: CE? Halo 2? Halo 3? Those last two games got a lot of flak from the community during their time, Halo 3 especially.

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> > > There’s more to Halo than just match control arena. If that’s all Halo 5 is about then yes the game will fail. There not bringing anything fresh to the series. If anything they seem to be dumbing it down. Halo 4 was a prime example of this when they started making grunts with big heads to make head shots easier. 343i clearly aren’t listening much to the fans, the population has been speaking for itself for a while for the later games. They should have seen the pattern when Halo 4 somehow did worse than Reach, even of the most demanded requests of Elites has never been returned.
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> > > It’s not really a reboot but 343i trying to change the formulae so much that there is less fun things to enjoy in the later games, not just the lack of Halo content and that’s where 343i are going wrong. If they want to bring new ideas then bring something worthwhile that people enjoyed like Bubble shields or duel wielding and things like things 64 BTB, add more race factions for multiplayer. There’s a big difference between adding terrible ideas like ADS and actually fun ideas that appeal to most people. Sure Halo needs innovation but it needs things that work, not using gimick’s for the sake that someone might think it’s funny for the first few matches.
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> I’d like that but that’s the problem since ignoring halo 5 campaign just because 343i messed up the game-play pretty badly is what concerns me. I suspect Halo 5’s matchmaking will be just as bad as Halo 4 matchmaking by the looks of it.

They need to focus more on mp anyway. Thats what the majority of the fan base likes! That is what kept the game alive and is what keeps people playing for years.

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> > > It is Halo. It’s a new Halo that brings a fresh change to the franchise. I didn’t like Reach, I didn’t like 4. I like this one. If you want Halo as it was, play the MCC! Because it will never be as good as that if that’s what you’re looking for. I LOVED Halo 2 and Halo 3. I still do! But the franchise needs a fresh take.
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> Which is what? Halo: CE? Halo 2? Halo 3? Those last two games got a lot of flak from the community during their time, Halo 3 especially.

AND THEY REMAINED POPULAR AS HELL! LOOK AT HALO 3 IT WAS ON -Yoinking!- ESPN FOR CHRIST SAKE. The population was way bigger too. Like what 500k on h3? and a million on h2.

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> halo 5 = halo at its finest
> the game cant stay in 2004 forever

Ya it can because thats what the majority of the fans want. They should really just take halo 3 improve hit detection, add new weapons, new game modes, new maps, and slap on new graphics. Also add a spectator mode.

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> > > > There’s more to Halo than just match control arena. If that’s all Halo 5 is about then yes the game will fail. There not bringing anything fresh to the series. If anything they seem to be dumbing it down. Halo 4 was a prime example of this when they started making grunts with big heads to make head shots easier. 343i clearly aren’t listening much to the fans, the population has been speaking for itself for a while for the later games. They should have seen the pattern when Halo 4 somehow did worse than Reach, even of the most demanded requests of Elites has never been returned.
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> > > > It’s not really a reboot but 343i trying to change the formulae so much that there is less fun things to enjoy in the later games, not just the lack of Halo content and that’s where 343i are going wrong. If they want to bring new ideas then bring something worthwhile that people enjoyed like Bubble shields or duel wielding and things like things 64 BTB, add more race factions for multiplayer. There’s a big difference between adding terrible ideas like ADS and actually fun ideas that appeal to most people. Sure Halo needs innovation but it needs things that work, not using gimick’s for the sake that someone might think it’s funny for the first few matches.
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> > I’d like that but that’s the problem since ignoring halo 5 campaign just because 343i messed up the game-play pretty badly is what concerns me. I suspect Halo 5’s matchmaking will be just as bad as Halo 4 matchmaking by the looks of it.
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> They need to focus more on mp anyway. Thats what the majority of the fan base likes! That is what kept the game alive and is what keeps people playing for years.

Just no, a lot of people play it for the campaign too. If this is how 343i treats their games then the series may as well be dead because the campaigns lore is the main reason I got into the series, that is what kept the series alive. If you want a multiplayer only game then go play Battlefield.

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> > > > > There’s more to Halo than just match control arena. If that’s all Halo 5 is about then yes the game will fail. There not bringing anything fresh to the series. If anything they seem to be dumbing it down. Halo 4 was a prime example of this when they started making grunts with big heads to make head shots easier. 343i clearly aren’t listening much to the fans, the population has been speaking for itself for a while for the later games. They should have seen the pattern when Halo 4 somehow did worse than Reach, even of the most demanded requests of Elites has never been returned.
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> > > > > It’s not really a reboot but 343i trying to change the formulae so much that there is less fun things to enjoy in the later games, not just the lack of Halo content and that’s where 343i are going wrong. If they want to bring new ideas then bring something worthwhile that people enjoyed like Bubble shields or duel wielding and things like things 64 BTB, add more race factions for multiplayer. There’s a big difference between adding terrible ideas like ADS and actually fun ideas that appeal to most people. Sure Halo needs innovation but it needs things that work, not using gimick’s for the sake that someone might think it’s funny for the first few matches.
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> > > I’d like that but that’s the problem since ignoring halo 5 campaign just because 343i messed up the game-play pretty badly is what concerns me. I suspect Halo 5’s matchmaking will be just as bad as Halo 4 matchmaking by the looks of it.
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> > They need to focus more on mp anyway. Thats what the majority of the fan base likes! That is what kept the game alive and is what keeps people playing for years.
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> Just no, a lot of people play it for the campaign too. If this is how 343i treats their games then the series may as well be dead because the campaigns lore is the main reason I got into the series, that is what kept the series alive. If you want a multiplayer only game then go play Battlefield.

I am saying the multiplayer needs to be just as good as the campaign.