This is for everyone

Halo 4 was fun, the campaign was engaging and finally expanded the lore + the multiplayer kept me playing for a good month, with it’s progression system and i’m set to return for Spartan ops in January.

I am bored of the game for now, but I can respect the work 343 have done and they’ve done a great job with the game overall, I was kept playing for an amazing 4 weeks.
which is more than enough especially for how repetitive multiplayer shooters are getting. I will be back from time to time and probably start getting back into it again once spartan ops returns but just remember this.

You cannot rely on 1 game/genre to entertain you, that is your faulty and you’re missing out on alot of great gaming experiences by doing so.
I’m currently plowing through Far Cry 3 and have been doing so for the last 2 weeks, i haven’t even touched Halo. If you’re bored, play something else, there is an infinite amount of talented developers out there and you shouldn’t let their amazing work go to waste.

343 have done a great job, you just have to accept that multiplayer shooters aren’t as fun as they used to be. When we first played them they were something new and exciting but since they’ve been around for a while now we’re slowly becoming tired of the same repetitive predictable experience, you’ve just got to accept it, and stop blaming 343’s faults on your nostalgia.

If Halo 2/3 was so great you wouldn’t be bored of them, both can still be played Halo 3 via xbox live and Halo 2 via xbox connect. If they were so faultless and fun then why did you leave them? Don’t blame it on the populations because getting into a game isn’t as hard as you all say it is. Yes we had good times on them, and they were so good because they were “first time experiences” you wont get that first time feel with a multiplayer fps again, so that’s probably why Reach and Halo 4 is such a disappointment for you.

Open to all discussion please don’t get heated about Halo 4 and its features can we please just keep it calm arguments on the internet will NEVER get resolved as nobody ever wants to admit their opinion is wrong.

Guess I wasted my time writing this all out :frowning:

You’re happy paying for a months intermittent gaming? You must have cash to throw away. Can i haz some?

When I fork out for an online game i expect months of entertainment, bearing in mind I don’t usually play much, although had a lot of free time lately. For an online progressive shooter you should be getting a lot than a months use. Reach had its flaws but I was still desperately still trying to rank up years later. Had the MP itself been better would have stuck with it.

> You cannot rely on 1 game/genre to entertain you

And yet people relied on Halo 3 for years.

What a poor argument, as usual.

> we’re slowly becoming tired of the same repetitive predictable experience, you’ve just got to accept it

The game isn’t predictable, it’s random. People want some of that predictableness back.

> Nostalgia

What does that have to do with disliking the game?

If Halo 2/3 was so great you wouldn’t be bored of them, both can still be played Halo 3 via xbox live and Halo 2 via xbox connect. If they were so faultless and fun then why did you leave them? Don’t blame it on the populations because getting into a game isn’t as hard as you all say it is

I never got bored of Halo 3, my friends just stopped playing. I would much rather be playing that right now and I still do jump on from time to time. But I dont like to play too long by myself, I enjoy the socialization aspect of online gaming which has been drastically reduced in with the advent of “party chat” Halo 4 put the final nail in the coffin when they disabled proximity chat. It’s just non stop silence out there, the energy and playfullness that made Halo great, is gone. I WANT TO SAY FUNNY THINGS TO PEOPLE WHEN I KILL THAM DAMN IT, FIX PROXIMITY CHAT!!

> > You cannot rely on 1 game/genre to entertain you
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> And yet people relied on Halo 3 for years.
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> What a poor argument, as usual.

Yes as Halo 3 was probably their first real online FPS it was all new to them so it was much more entertaining did you even read my OP?
whatever your getting blocked for some reason you just like to come on all of my posts and basically insult me.

At this point almost every game is just a few month filler for me with a few exceptions (dark Souls, Skyrim, BF3). It’s sad but I just really want my next gen games to come out so I can play games like BF3 as they were built to be played, with tons of people, no framerate dips, large scale destruction, and enhanced lighting and environment. Halo 4 is still fun but I won’t be playing it until next winter I am almost certain of that fact.

> > > You cannot rely on 1 game/genre to entertain you
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> > And yet people relied on Halo 3 for years.
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> > What a poor argument, as usual.
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> Yes as Halo 3 was probably their first real online FPS it was all new to them so it was much more entertaining did you even read my OP?
> whatever your getting blocked for some reason you just like to come on all of my posts and basically insult me.

It wasn’t entertaining because it was new, its entertaining because it was good. Halo 4 is completely new, so why aren’t people enjoying it according to your logic?

And yes, because your arguments are always “Halo 4 is perfect, people dislike the game because they are nostalgic and not because they have legitimate reasons”.

Also, it’s You’re.

> Halo 4 was fun, the campaign was engaging and finally expanded the lore + the multiplayer kept me playing for a good month, with it’s progression system and i’m set to return for Spartan ops in January.
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> I am bored of the game for now, but I can respect the work 343 have done and they’ve done a great job with the game overall, I was kept playing for an amazing 4 weeks.
> which is more than enough especially for how <mark>repetitive multiplayer shooters are getting</mark>. I will be back from time to time and probably start getting back into it again once spartan ops returns but just remember this.
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> You cannot rely on 1 game/genre to entertain you, that is your faulty and you’re missing out on alot of great gaming experiences by doing so.
> I’m currently plowing through Far Cry 3 and have been doing so for the last 2 weeks, i haven’t even touched Halo. If you’re bored, play something else, there is an infinite amount of talented developers out there and you shouldn’t let their amazing work go to waste.
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> 343 have done a great job, <mark>you just have to accept that multiplayer shooters aren’t as fun as they used to be</mark>. When we first played them they were something new and exciting but since they’ve been around for a <mark>while now we’re slowly becoming tired of the same repetitive predictable experience</mark>, you’ve just got to accept it, and <mark>stop blaming 343’s faults on your nostalgia</mark>.
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> <mark>If Halo 2/3 was so great you wouldn’t be bored of them</mark>, both can still be played Halo 3 via xbox live and Halo 2 via xbox connect. If they were so faultless and fun then why did you leave them? Don’t blame it on the populations because getting into a game isn’t as hard as you all say it is. Yes we had good times on them, and they were so good because they were “first time experiences” you wont get that first time feel with a multiplayer fps again, so that’s probably why Reach and Halo 4 is such a disappointment for you.
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> Open to all discussion please don’t get heated about Halo 4 and its features can we please just keep it calm arguments on the internet will NEVER get resolved as nobody ever wants to admit their opinion is wrong.

There are some key sentances I want to point out here.

Gameplay is getting repetitive because the developers seem to copy more than they have to from each other. This makes different games play very similairly. Innovation and improvement is a driving force, copying isn’t, as something that works in one shooter may not work in another.

Fun is also subjective, I can have more fun later in a game’s lifetime than I have at the start because of updates making the game more playable and enjoyable.

Nostalgia is essentially a powerful memory twister, but we must not forget that there is a reason we remember the fun parts. Nostalgia won’t magically make a bad game good in anyone’s eyes if they didn’t have fun in it.

People on this forum like to compare Halo 4 to Halo 3 and 2, because in many aspects, those two games did something right, the competitiveness was there and custom game options was there for those who wanted to mess around. Unfortunatley it’s more or less turned around now.

Of course people get bored with good games as well, and want something fresh, but Halo 4 promised so much new and delivered instead used and broken. Then there’s the fact that the older games doesn’t have the support Halo 4 has, there are no updates, game longevity comes from updates, rolling out less popular stuff for new stuff players want, and keep doing that.

Halo 4 could have been an awesome game with a campaign full of replayability, a very competitive Multiplayer, old and new game modes as well as more custom game options than Halo 3 and Reach combined, theatre for Campaign, Multiplayer and SpOps, Forge with all old stuff intact as well as added tools and pieces.

Campaign is mediocre in the aspect of game play, I kind of liked the story but the gameplay elements are not just there for me to start the it again and have another go at it. The introduction of quick time events as well as too much button pushing just got repetitive. I think enemies provided to the staleness of it as well, the Prometheans are just not that fun to play against, and they added three types with a couple of classes each. The Covenant was more fun to fight and they aren’t even the main antagonists.

Multiplayer lacks everything that has to do with competitiveness. I don’t feel like I want to improve, I get rewarded for mediocre gameplay and sometimes punished while I’m doing really good. Balance is non-existant and the game feels more repetitive than previous games.

I was shocked when I saw a lot of the game modes removed only to have a few added, Extraction, Dominion and Grifball, one that used to be another game mode first. Extraction is fun, the little I got to play it, Dominion is also fun as well as griffball, but I don’t feel like they are fun enough to justify the removal of Assault, VIP, Race, Headhunter, Territories and Invasion, did I forget something? Then there’s only a small amount of options we do get to tweak.

Theatre only for MP, I found that to be a let down, so many times have I had moments I wanted to record in Campaign and SpOps that just can’t be replicated, or screenshots to take.

Forge felt good at first but it’s still something we’ve had before, with small changes. Why remove precision movement? Why not add even more standard pieces? Perhaps I did something wrong when I made a map but there are two standard pieces that are the same, I don’t remember which ones but I thought they were mirror pieces, and it turns out they are exactly the same, geometrically.

Perhaps I imagined too much and I have to blame myself for being letdown by Halo 4, maybe I thought i343 would improve and add rather than remove, restrict and simplify.

Still, a lot of people feel let down. Halo 4 could have had so much to make it last, to make it fun and full of variation, but here I’m sitting with a shooter, normal as every other shooter out there, a restricted game experience that could have been so rich, so full of color and variation.

Am I playing it? Now and then, do I think it is fun? Sometimes I do.

i343 really need to take what the vocal community is telling them seriously, the silent community that just plays will be fine with whatever decision is made, that’s why it’s a silent community.

Halo 5 better deliver everything that wasn’t delivered for Halo 4.

I got bored with Halo 4 and tried Black Ops 2…

I can now confirm anyone who says the game is good is lying through their -Yoink- teeth.

> > > > You cannot rely on 1 game/genre to entertain you
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> > > And yet people relied on Halo 3 for years.
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> > > What a poor argument, as usual.
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> > Yes as Halo 3 was probably their first real online FPS it was all new to them so it was much more entertaining did you even read my OP?
> > whatever your getting blocked for some reason you just like to come on all of my posts and basically insult me.
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> It wasn’t entertaining because it was new, its entertaining because it was good. Halo 4 is completely new, so why aren’t people enjoying it according to your logic?
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> And yes, because your arguments are always “Halo 4 is perfect, people dislike the game because they are nostalgic and not because they have legitimate reasons”.

Halo 4 is in no way perfect, and i never said that so stop putting words into my mouth.

Halo 4 has more problems than any other Halo.
But it also has more features.

Custom game options are -Yoink-
Matchmaking playlists are -Yoink-

> But it also has more features.

Like sprint, random handouts, more random handouts, and let’s not forget perks. It has more “features”, but they all make the game less competitive and less fun.

Also I thought you had blocked me.

> Halo 4 has more problems than any other Halo.

Then why defend it? Why not fix those problems instead of just being optimistic and ignoring they even exist?

They obviously DIDN’T do a great job if it has “more problems than any other Halo”. Now you are just being contradictory. As usual.

Though when I say “as usual”, I’m not referring to you specifically, I’m referring to all the people who blindly defend 343I.

Lastly, read Naqser’s post.

This post has been edited by a moderator. Please do not flame or attack other members.

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> > Also I thought you had blocked me.
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> > <mark>Then why defend it? Why not fix those problems instead of just being optimistic and ignoring they even exist?
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> > Fun is subjective the sooner you learn that not everybody in the world thinks like you the better.
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> > Because every single game has problems and complaining on a forum 343 don’t even look at is a complete waste of my time and everybody elses. Meanwhile giving positive feedback to a fairly well made game by a company who’ve never made a game together is more worthwhile as I get to have funny senseless arguments with idiots that care so much about a game that it makes me laugh.
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> > And i’m not being contradictory when i say Halo 4 has more issues than anyother Halo as i never stated that Halo 4 was the best Halo game ever, i simply stated that it’s a good game and well made.[/spoiler]

So if you don’t “care so much about the game” then why the -Yoink- are you even on the forums?

What is the point of posting 343I appreciation threads daily? What does THAT accomplish?

And yes, people do care a lot about the game, that is why they are pissed of with how it has changed. But they are voicing their complaints, unlike people like you who don’t even care what direction the game takes.

> a fairly well made game

They copied the basic mentality behind call of duty: Make a very casual and mediocre game which lasts a short time, then lets remake it a bunch of times to draw people that left back in.

I bet Halo 5 comes out next year. (2014, not 2013).

> Fun is subjective the sooner you learn that not everybody in the world thinks like you the better.

And months from now you will be top rank, full commendations, and completely bored with this easy game. Calling it now.

There is a reason why there are separate series like CoD, Battlefield, etc. Not everyone views fun the same way, that is why they play different games. Most of the old Halo players do not enjoy this “Halo” game, while every kid who started in Reach seems to.

If you wanted a casual mess why would you not just stick to call of duty?

Wait, wait, wait.
You claim that you “don’t care about the game” and that you “don’t care about the community”
So what’s the point of arguing that the game is so wonderful and that those big, mean fans should stop bullying 343 so much? If you really don’t care, then just play the game and enjoy it.

In addition, going along with “not everybody thinks alike”, not everybody is content with the game. Adding features and fixing problems will appease discontent folks and shouldn’t bother those who don’t care.

> So if you don’t “care so much about the game” then why the -Yoink!- are you even on the forums?
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> What is the point of posting 343I appreciation threads daily? What does THAT accomplish?
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> And yes, people do care a lot about the game, that is why they are pissed of with how it has changed. But they are voicing their complaints, unlike people like you who don’t even care what direction the game takes.

It accomplishes the butthurt of people like you, so I get to see what extent you little kids really go to, to try and defend your opinions on a matter that is so insignificant you might aswell watch paint dry.

Just wasting your time really, this forum is filled with crap these days and everybody I used to discuss with has dissapeared.

And I do care what direction it takes, and I do agree and disagree with many decisions 343 has made. But complaining like a whiny little girl on a web forum changes nothing, they don’t even read a single post here.

Video Game issues are insignificant kid, you should be lucky to even have Halo still around, many franchises have been ruined, my childhood ones like Red Alert and many other games have been ripped apart by Ea, but I really couldn’t give a -Yoink- as my life is a lot more important than a digital disc, just an eye opener.

Oh and mods i believe i broke about 3 rules in the post above ^ feel free to suspend my for a day. I wont be back anyhow.

> Wait, wait, wait.
> You claim that you “don’t care about the game” and that you “don’t care about the community”
> So what’s the point of arguing that the game is so wonderful and that those big, mean fans should stop bullying 343 so much? If you really don’t care, then just play the game and enjoy it.
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> In addition, going along with “not everybody thinks alike”, not everybody is content with the game. Adding features and fixing problems will appease discontent folks and shouldn’t bother those who don’t care.

Just for -Yoink- and giggles

> It accomplishes the butthurt of people like you, so I get to see what extent you little kids really go to, to try and defend your opinions on a matter that is so insignificant you might aswell watch paint dry.
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> Just wasting your time really, this forum is filled with crap these days and everybody I used to discuss with has dissapeared.

Wait so you praise the game, even though you see it has issues, just to argue with people who are displeased with it?

That is not only hypocritical but also a waste of time in itself.

> Video Game issues are insignificant kid, you should be lucky to even have Halo still around, many franchises have been ruined, my childhood ones like Red Alert and many other games have been ripped apart by Ea, but I really couldn’t give a Yoink! as my life is a lot more important than a digital disc, just an eye opener.

Do you think maybe that’s because people like you allow people like EA to make those changes?

Video game issues are significant. They are a hobby for many people, and soon there will be no good games left if all these popular trends continue.

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst168474_Is-anyone-even-still-playing-this-game.aspx here is a link to a previous post you made, just a few days ago, saying the opposite. Your a fail troll who should stop posting.

> > It accomplishes the butthurt of people like you, so I get to see what extent you little kids really go to, to try and defend your opinions on a matter that is so insignificant you might aswell watch paint dry.
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> > Just wasting your time really, this forum is filled with crap these days and everybody I used to discuss with has dissapeared.
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> Wait so you praise the game, even though you see it has issues, just to argue with people who are displeased with it?
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> That is not only hypocritical but also a waste of time in itself.

Ahaha you still don’t even get it do you.

I’M WASTING YOUR TIME.