betas for consoles r like big advertisements,
all the complainers r just mad because they dont gt to play the game early.
no that im happy about it but lets see what they do with all the extra time and resource they wwould have put into a beta
I agree with you guys. I think we will be better off without one. It will make the overall game better,mould you rather have a small multiplayer beta for 2 weeks, with blown up servers, and a slightly messed up halo 4 with an early 2013 release date
Or no beta and an awesome Halo 4 with an earlier release date. It’s clear what we want, people are just greedy
Its a nice idea…
But the Halo: Reach beta is was distorted Halo Reach.
Too many people jumped on the ‘band wagon’ and decided to give Bungie ill feedback.
People who’d never even played a Halo game before were mindless posting about balance issues. I personally remembering arguing with a few on the Bungie forums.
It would be even worse for Halo 4 because everyone does not want 343i to “stuff” it up.
To the OP…
You’re Teacher is right… But not in contrast to what 343 is trying to achieve
Unfortunately the majority of the beta ‘testers’ for Halo are mindless when it comes to the whole communities needs.
Clearly I dont think the Teacher knows alot about 343 >_>;;;
Frankie did say they were throughly testing the game and there was no need for a beta. Don’t worry guys I’m sure they are going over every inch of the game.
Its always better to let the community go over your game. Just saying.
lol at op and first comment 
Sure I want a beta. Why? The same reason as everyone else: I want to play the game early. I could act like you guys and say that “it will help out the game because we will get a playthrough to work out the kinks” but you and I both know that that isn’t true. Console betas are demos, nothing more
I guess I’m late to the “Let’s all believe 343i is all powerful and incapable of error” party. Your teacher is probably right. But knowing games companies today, betas are no longer betas, in the sense that they are now demos. They are not used to test the game nor to get feedback. If people feel that x is over powered it will not be fixed in the final version, nor will a, b, c or d, but they might just fix that small texture clipping issue rather than any game play flaws. My guess is that they’re not having a beta because they think that A: We’ll all hate it, B: It’ll decrease hype or C: Both.
Welcome to the games industry. I like to call it my own personal hell.
LoLz, I know how you feel OP. XD
> Sure I want a beta. Why? The same reason as everyone else: I want to play the game early. I could act like you guys and say that “it will help out the game because we will get a playthrough to work out the kinks” but you and I both know that that isn’t true. Console betas are demos, nothing more
To the uninformed.
> I agree with you guys. I think we will be better off without one. It will make the overall game better,would you rather have a small multiplayer beta for 2 weeks, with blown up servers, and a slightly messed up halo 4 with an early 2013 release date
> Or no beta and an awesome Halo 4 with an earlier release date. It’s clear what we want, people are just greedy
I am against the beta aswell.
Every game published goes a “beta stage” in production, that’s what your teacher was talking about, not a public beta.
Your teacher had a point.
But it only applies to some games. Games, say, like Halo which have been in dev. for 3 years don’t really need a beta for bugs necessarily, but to get a gauge on what the community thinks.
Make a beta? Are you insane?
Making a beta would just be another reason for you spoiled guys to -Yoink- and complain about!
Cool story bro.
Haha yeah it sucks, but honestly the only reason I see this as the case is because there are no 360 exclusives coming out before Halo 4 that would need the beta packed in to increase sales.
> Frankie did say they were throughly testing the game and there was no need for a beta. Don’t worry guys I’m sure they are going over every inch of the game.
Around 200 pairs of eyes cannot find as many bugs as a 1 million pairs of eyes. The community has been known to be more thorough than the devs when it comes to finding stuff in games.
If anything, I wouldn’t mind if the game got pushed back for a Beta. Having a Halo game released 2 years after the previous game’s release feels rushed.
But if he thinks the guys got it, then I’ll give the game a shot. However, there is NOTHING wrong with having a beta, and absolutely nothing wrong with a few months of delay if it means that stuff isn’t going to bug out on us when we play the game.
Your teacher is right, hence all games have closed betas (and alphas) that mere mortal users never even hear about, or think about.
IF 343i and MS were 100% sure that Halo 4 would be a success, they would have a “beta” aka MP demo. A public beta is, at best, a way to test servers but these days is just a cheap way to get a lot of attention and attract a lot of (new) players to the game.
However, if you fear that the game, or some aspects of it, might scare away people or just create a “bad mood”, or if you know the game is sub-par, there won’t be a beta since hype will make people buy the game, and even if they abandon it later you still got your money at release. Simple as that…
Having a beta or MP demo wouldn’t take much time, they could use an old MP code they’ve used for their own closed beta, very common these days, just to let people try the 343i blended Halo experience. But, as some say people would complain over old issues already solved, not to mention every self-proclaimed expert that would spam the forum in threads on how to save Halo 4 (even more then they do right now).
However, a beta/MP demo (the true name) would be a test of faith from 343i/MS, a proof that they believe that Halo 4 will be a great game that everyone (or many at least) will love and want to play for 2-3 years so we’ll all happily buy the 720 at release ^^
So, we can think what ever we want about it and justify it by any means, or just accept that 343i/MS do not think that letting us, the public and the consumers, try Halo 4 pre release would make us buy the game or get the hype even higher.
Long story short: The big guys think, for what ever reasons, that letting us try Halo 4 before release would make us less likely to buy the game.
Their reasons for this are their own, we can only speculate… -
When there is a beta all of the little kids complain. Weapons that take skill will no longer require skill after a ‘nerf’, because of the complaints. Having no beta will keep you pumped for the full game and there will be no problems caused by the complaints that people have.