This has been a iong time coming

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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First of all I want to say I actually enjoy the game and want to play, but 343’s incompetence is seriously turning me away.

Firstly, the number of grenades of each map. What the hell were you thinking? WHY are there grenades around every single corner? Surely in such a competitive game grenades should be a luxury. Why can’t you lower the grenade count and have people start with 1 so they actually have to use it wisely? Instead people just run to grenade spawns and then have 4 or 6 to just lob at people. Its infuriating.

Secondly, the servers. I’m in Australia and ever since you decided to turn region lock off I have been getting absolutely annihilated by Americans. It is simply impossible to take it seriously when Americans have a clear advantage. I have to put a whole pistol clip into them yet it feels all they need to do 4 - 5 shots. 1v1s I would have won before I’m now losing. Also getting shot from around corners has become a massive issue. I am not in their line of sight, I should not be able to be head shotted. There have been times when no one is around and I mysteriously die, times when people aren’t even looking at me yet they kill me. Did you not think of all this before you decided to turn it off or were you just desperate to cover up the dwindling population?

Thirdly, the aiming. How did you manage to screw this up? Why couldn’t you just keep it the same as every other game in the franchise? Its so inconsistent. This isn’t a keyboard and mouse set up, controllers don’t have that kind of precision . So why did you turn down aim assist and increase bullet mag? Why not turn down bullet mag and increase aim assist so I’m not getting shot around corners and the reticle doesn’t fly across the screen when trying to keep target. After 300 hours and messing with the settings I still cannot find a suitable setting. Its garbage, and I am convinced its outright broken.

Fourthly, the maps themselves. Corridors, corners everywhere. And their so small, couple that with a radar that has terrible range and only sometimes works its just a guessing game on where the enemy might be. Not only that but I’ll often spawn right next to a firefight or with two enemies coming around the corner or right next to an exploding grenade. What the hell?

Fifthly, Firefight. I was actually disgusted to see that drivel passed of as Firefight. I was so excited, FF was my favorite mode from ODST and Reach. I don’t care if its “Warzone Firefight” you’re using the Firefight name so make it like FF. As it stands its just Warzone without the enemy team. No strategy involved, no fight against increasingly difficult odds, no pool of lives, just run in with your awesome super duper REQS and mow down enemies. It’d be fine if you didn’t use FFs name, still a terrible and lazy game mode but whatever. This is one of the modes people have been asking for since its removal in Halo 4, why can’t we have it back as it was? Honestly 343, why can’t we have proper Firefight back?

Lastly, not a problem with the game but player stupidity. Today has been a horrendous day on Halo. I’ve lost about %80 percent of matches and rage quit one. From people dropping out to games starting 3 - 4 to an idiot betraying me with a rocket while I was assassinating an enemy to another moron who stood in the corner with the flag while ours was at base for near 40 seconds while the enemy team swooped in, got their flag back and took ours [that was the match I rage quit]

It might seem like I hate the game but I don’t. I very much enjoy it but after the wretched “Firefight” and turning off of Region lock all these problems have just pushed me away.
P.S change the rocket launcher back to the SPNKR please. There was no reason to change it and the new design is generic.

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You obviously don’t play a lot, the Spnkr is in the game.

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You missed the point.
The new design sucks, its generic and there was no reason for it to be changed. The SPNKR is a legendary I rarely see and have used once.

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> You missed the point.
> The new design sucks, its generic and there was no reason for it to be changed. The SPNKR is a legendary I rarely see and have used once.

No… it’s only a rare, as opposed to the uncommon new rocket launcher. I see SPNKRs all the time.

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> First of all I want to say I actually enjoy the game and want to play, but 343’s incompetence is seriously turning me away.
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> Firstly, the number of grenades of each map. What the hell were you thinking? WHY are there grenades around every single corner? Surely in such a competitive game grenades should be a luxury. Why can’t you lower the grenade count and have people start with 1 so they actually have to use it wisely? Instead people just run to grenade spawns and then have 4 or 6 to just lob at people. Its infuriating.
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> Secondly, the servers. I’m in Australia and ever since you decided to turn region lock off I have been getting absolutely annihilated by Americans. It is simply impossible to take it seriously when Americans have a clear advantage. I have to put a whole pistol clip into them yet it feels all they need to do 4 - 5 shots. 1v1s I would have won before I’m now losing. Also getting shot from around corners has become a massive issue. I am not in their line of sight, I should not be able to be head shotted. There have been times when no one is around and I mysteriously die, times when people aren’t even looking at me yet they kill me. Did you not think of all this before you decided to turn it off or were you just desperate to cover up the dwindling population?
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> Thirdly, the aiming. How did you manage to screw this up? Why couldn’t you just keep it the same as every other game in the franchise? Its so inconsistent. This isn’t a keyboard and mouse set up, controllers don’t have that kind of precision . So why did you turn down aim assist and increase bullet mag? Why not turn down bullet mag and increase aim assist so I’m not getting shot around corners and the reticle doesn’t fly across the screen when trying to keep target. After 300 hours and messing with the settings I still cannot find a suitable setting. Its garbage, and I am convinced its outright broken.
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> Fourthly, the maps themselves. Corridors, corners everywhere. And their so small, couple that with a radar that has terrible range and only sometimes works its just a guessing game on where the enemy might be. Not only that but I’ll often spawn right next to a firefight or with two enemies coming around the corner or right next to an exploding grenade. What the hell?
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> Fifthly, Firefight. I was actually disgusted to see that drivel passed of as Firefight. I was so excited, FF was my favorite mode from ODST and Reach. I don’t care if its “Warzone Firefight” you’re using the Firefight name so make it like FF. As it stands its just Warzone without the enemy team. No strategy involved, no fight against increasingly difficult odds, no pool of lives, just run in with your awesome super duper REQS and mow down enemies. It’d be fine if you didn’t use FFs name, still a terrible and lazy game mode but whatever. This is one of the modes people have been asking for since its removal in Halo 4, why can’t we have it back as it was? Honestly 343, why can’t we have proper Firefight back?
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> Lastly, not a problem with the game but player stupidity. Today has been a horrendous day on Halo. I’ve lost about %80 percent of matches and rage quit one. From people dropping out to games starting 3 - 4 to an idiot betraying me with a rocket while I was assassinating an enemy to another moron who stood in the corner with the flag while ours was at base for near 40 seconds while the enemy team swooped in, got their flag back and took ours [that was the match I rage quit]
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> It might seem like I hate the game but I don’t. I very much enjoy it but after the wretched “Firefight” and turning off of Region lock all these problems have just pushed me away.
> P.S change the rocket launcher back to the SPNKR please. There was no reason to change it and the new design is generic.

  1. H5 is actually generous when it comes to grenades if you ask me, cuz I remember being able to carry 10+ in h2.

  2. I’ll agree the servers aren’t the best for foreign players, I can’t say off experience for myself cuz…well I’m right where the servers are :slight_smile:

  3. I think the games aiming sucked when it first came out but it’s fixed for me since they’ve given me options to fix it, I agree though that they shouldn’t have been an issue from the start.

  4. Hasn’t this always been halo? You spawn off of team mates and it’s always been a corridor game unless you did btb.

  5. It’s still firefight, and one that people wanted from the get go. Your firefight is just different, and I’ll give props to 343 on at least trying to mix it up rather than copy what’s already been done this time.

  6. Agreed, but team mates in random games have always been an issue.

personally I don’t mind the weapon looks changing as they still play the same, and since I’m not to big on cosmetic items or looks, I’m not vs nor for them changing the looks.

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I’m in the US and the getting hit around corners and literally unloading half an smg clip in someone, then have them turn around and kill you is happening here also. Screen freezes for a couple of seconds… your dead. Not to mention you throw a melee and you always get beat to the punch. I guess those 3000+ posts to have it tuned off got what they asked for.

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> 1. H5 is actually generous when it comes to grenades if you ask me, cuz I remember being able to carry 10+ in h2.
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> 5. It’s still firefight, and one that people wanted from the get go. Your firefight is just different, and I’ll give props to 343 on at least trying to mix it up rather than copy what’s already been done this time.
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> personally I don’t mind the weapon looks changing as they still play the same, and since I’m not to big on cosmetic items or looks, I’m not vs nor for them changing the looks.

  1. I didn’t grow up with Halo 2 or 3’s MP because I never had internet growing up. I still believe the number of grenades is an issue as it allows people to just mindllessly spam and not bother to think.

  2. Its not Firefight though. When people were asking for Firefight I assumed they were asking for, you know Firefight not Warzone with just the bots. Like I said, if it wasn’t called Firefight it’d be fine.

I get some people might not be bothered by it, its just to replace a unique and easily recognizable design like the SPNKR and change it to something generic and boring was just pointless

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> I’m in the US and the getting hit around corners and literally unloading half an smg clip in someone, then have them turn around and kill you is happening here also. Screen freezes for a couple of seconds… your dead. Not to mention you throw a melee and you always get beat to the punch. I guess those 3000+ posts to have it tuned off got what they asked for.

Really does suck that its happening all over. I’d rather they turned it back on and wait a couple minutes to find a game then put up with this.

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> > 1. H5 is actually generous when it comes to grenades if you ask me, cuz I remember being able to carry 10+ in h2.
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> > 5. It’s still firefight, and one that people wanted from the get go. Your firefight is just different, and I’ll give props to 343 on at least trying to mix it up rather than copy what’s already been done this time.
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> > personally I don’t mind the weapon looks changing as they still play the same, and since I’m not to big on cosmetic items or looks, I’m not vs nor for them changing the looks.
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> 1. I didn’t grow up with Halo 2 or 3’s MP because I never had internet growing up. I still believe the number of grenades is an issue as it allows people to just mindllessly spam and not bother to think.
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> 2. Its not Firefight though. When people were asking for Firefight I assumed they were asking for, you know Firefight not Warzone with just the bots. Like I said, if it wasn’t called Firefight it’d be fine.
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> I get some people might not be bothered by it, its just to replace a unique and easily recognizable design like the SPNKR and change it to something generic and boring was just pointless

  1. I’ll agree halo 5s sandbox as a whole is cluttered with weapons and grenades.

  2. I could link you a mega thread that proves people wanted a warzone firefight. Not everyone wanted it, but a lot did. Firefight to me is just fighting waves of enemies, so by my definition this warzone firefight is still firefight.

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This is first game I’ve ever played online so I don’t know what FF was in other Halo’s. I had a blast playing Warzon FF… I didn’t have to worry about other player taking my weapons as soon as I spawned them. You could actually pull out the big toys and play with them. It was total mayhem against the AI.

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> > > 1. H5 is actually generous when it comes to grenades if you ask me, cuz I remember being able to carry 10+ in h2.
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> > > 5. It’s still firefight, and one that people wanted from the get go. Your firefight is just different, and I’ll give props to 343 on at least trying to mix it up rather than copy what’s already been done this time.
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> > > personally I don’t mind the weapon looks changing as they still play the same, and since I’m not to big on cosmetic items or looks, I’m not vs nor for them changing the looks.
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> > 1. I didn’t grow up with Halo 2 or 3’s MP because I never had internet growing up. I still believe the number of grenades is an issue as it allows people to just mindllessly spam and not bother to think.
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> > 2. Its not Firefight though. When people were asking for Firefight I assumed they were asking for, you know Firefight not Warzone with just the bots. Like I said, if it wasn’t called Firefight it’d be fine.
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> > I get some people might not be bothered by it, its just to replace a unique and easily recognizable design like the SPNKR and change it to something generic and boring was just pointless
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> 1. I’ll agree halo 5s sandbox as a whole is cluttered with weapons and grenades.
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> 2. I could link you a mega thread that proves people wanted a warzone firefight. Not everyone wanted it, but a lot did. Firefight to me is just fighting waves of enemies, so by my definition this warzone firefight is still firefight.

To be fair, most people would suggest a game type that they thought would fit the theme of the game. Since Halo 5 is centered around warzone, it would only be reasonable for people to suggest a game mode that somehow ties into the warzone theme. It is more likely that people will suggest features/game modes that have a better chance of actually being implemented than not. For example, many people complain about the req system, yet we still see people asking for more req items rather than that same item available outside the req system. I saw someone talk about how there should be phaeton variant reqs. Had there been no req system, they most likely would have suggested variants that have nothing to do with a microtransaction system. Same thing is happening with warzone firefight. People are only suggesting what is in line with what is most probable to be implemented, which is warzone firefight, rather than just firefight.

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I can agree on the region lock being an issue. Since it was lifted my games have been glitchy and full of lag. I’m in the U.S. and never had this issue until recently. Anyone else been having issues like this?
I also agree on being shot around corners sucks but I could care less about what the weapons look or sound like.
FF for me was really fun, but I can see it being a struggle for anyone without the proper loadouts.

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1.Grenade count is way to high
5.Firefight is terrible (the new one) it is only war zone without the enemy team. I was hyped about firefight coming back but now I’m just dissapointed with 343

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  1. I never minded the amount of grenades, but I do wish that hit markers would get removed to reduce grenade spam.

  2. I’ve gotten a lot of laggy games ever since Region Lock was removed, and I’m in America. I say put it back on.

  3. Thankfully, I’ve been doing pretty well on the aim settings that I put on a few months ago.

  4. I never had much problem with most maps myself. Except for the surplus of automatics lying around.

  5. Firefight is indeed disappointing.

  6. I know what you mean with those teammates. Two BTB CTF games in a row I got the teammates who refused to score. No idea why. The second time I just blasted the guy in the face with my shotgun and capped it myself.

PS: I’m one of the very few who actually like the new rocket launcher design.

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> > I’m in the US and the getting hit around corners and literally unloading half an smg clip in someone, then have them turn around and kill you is happening here also. Screen freezes for a couple of seconds… your dead. Not to mention you throw a melee and you always get beat to the punch. I guess those 3000+ posts to have it tuned off got what they asked for.
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> Really does suck that its happening all over. I’d rather they turned it back on and wait a couple minutes to find a game then put up with this.

Ditto on this^

I hate the inconsistency of hit mechanics and then you add lag to it…WTF?

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I edited the title because it’s not a rant when you give your points in a constructive manner.

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miss spnkr …new rocket launcher just looks so generic but it functions the same …even though it looks…so bad not sure what 343i were thinking about that design …

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Yeah I agree with pretty much everything. The weird aiming and magnetism combined with playing on 200 ping American servers makes this game dreadful to play. I can still do OK if I get my try-hard boots on but it is simply a headache to play with the amount of latency induced nonsense you have to endure.

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> I’m in the US and the getting hit around corners and literally unloading half an smg clip in someone, then have them turn around and kill you is happening here also. Screen freezes for a couple of seconds… your dead. Not to mention you throw a melee and you always get beat to the punch. I guess those 3000+ posts to have it tuned off got what they asked for.

U wot.

It has been 213 pages and counting of having region locked turned on, not off, but preferably a regional server selection instead of a strict region lock akin to pretty much any well optimised multiplayer games on XBL (Gears UT, Titanfall, Rocket League).

Why am I even here.

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> > First of all I want to say I actually enjoy the game and want to play, but 343’s incompetence is seriously turning me away.
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> > Firstly, the number of grenades of each map. What the hell were you thinking? WHY are there grenades around every single corner? Surely in such a competitive game grenades should be a luxury. Why can’t you lower the grenade count and have people start with 1 so they actually have to use it wisely? Instead people just run to grenade spawns and then have 4 or 6 to just lob at people. Its infuriating.
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> > Secondly, the servers. I’m in Australia and ever since you decided to turn region lock off I have been getting absolutely annihilated by Americans. It is simply impossible to take it seriously when Americans have a clear advantage. I have to put a whole pistol clip into them yet it feels all they need to do 4 - 5 shots. 1v1s I would have won before I’m now losing. Also getting shot from around corners has become a massive issue. I am not in their line of sight, I should not be able to be head shotted. There have been times when no one is around and I mysteriously die, times when people aren’t even looking at me yet they kill me. Did you not think of all this before you decided to turn it off or were you just desperate to cover up the dwindling population?
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> > Thirdly, the aiming. How did you manage to screw this up? Why couldn’t you just keep it the same as every other game in the franchise? Its so inconsistent. This isn’t a keyboard and mouse set up, controllers don’t have that kind of precision . So why did you turn down aim assist and increase bullet mag? Why not turn down bullet mag and increase aim assist so I’m not getting shot around corners and the reticle doesn’t fly across the screen when trying to keep target. After 300 hours and messing with the settings I still cannot find a suitable setting. Its garbage, and I am convinced its outright broken.
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> > Fourthly, the maps themselves. Corridors, corners everywhere. And their so small, couple that with a radar that has terrible range and only sometimes works its just a guessing game on where the enemy might be. Not only that but I’ll often spawn right next to a firefight or with two enemies coming around the corner or right next to an exploding grenade. What the hell?
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> > Fifthly, Firefight. I was actually disgusted to see that drivel passed of as Firefight. I was so excited, FF was my favorite mode from ODST and Reach. I don’t care if its “Warzone Firefight” you’re using the Firefight name so make it like FF. As it stands its just Warzone without the enemy team. No strategy involved, no fight against increasingly difficult odds, no pool of lives, just run in with your awesome super duper REQS and mow down enemies. It’d be fine if you didn’t use FFs name, still a terrible and lazy game mode but whatever. This is one of the modes people have been asking for since its removal in Halo 4, why can’t we have it back as it was? Honestly 343, why can’t we have proper Firefight back?
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> > Lastly, not a problem with the game but player stupidity. Today has been a horrendous day on Halo. I’ve lost about %80 percent of matches and rage quit one. From people dropping out to games starting 3 - 4 to an idiot betraying me with a rocket while I was assassinating an enemy to another moron who stood in the corner with the flag while ours was at base for near 40 seconds while the enemy team swooped in, got their flag back and took ours [that was the match I rage quit]
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> > It might seem like I hate the game but I don’t. I very much enjoy it but after the wretched “Firefight” and turning off of Region lock all these problems have just pushed me away.
> > P.S change the rocket launcher back to the SPNKR please. There was no reason to change it and the new design is generic.
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> 1. H5 is actually generous when it comes to grenades if you ask me, cuz I remember being able to carry 10+ in h2.
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> 2. I’ll agree the servers aren’t the best for foreign players, I can’t say off experience for myself cuz…well I’m right where the servers are :slight_smile:
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> 3. I think the games aiming sucked when it first came out but it’s fixed for me since they’ve given me options to fix it, I agree though that they shouldn’t have been an issue from the start.
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> 4. Hasn’t this always been halo? You spawn off of team mates and it’s always been a corridor game unless you did btb.
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> 5. It’s still firefight, and one that people wanted from the get go. Your firefight is just different, and I’ll give props to 343 on at least trying to mix it up rather than copy what’s already been done this time.
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> 6. Agreed, but team mates in random games have always been an issue.
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> personally I don’t mind the weapon looks changing as they still play the same, and since I’m not to big on cosmetic items or looks, I’m not vs nor for them changing the looks.

BTB now with the new maps are all corridors. I’m sorry except for viking

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> Fourthly, the maps themselves. Corridors, corners everywhere. And their so small, couple that with a radar that has terrible range and only sometimes works its just a guessing game on where the enemy might be.

This is a feature not a bug