The other weapons are plain bad for anything at range. There is a reason most the other games had it as a starting weapon.
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> The other weapons are plain bad for anything at range. There is a reason most the other games had it as a starting weapon.
The AR beats out the BR at range most of the time in this game, that’s the issue. Old BR meta caused the sandbox to be ignored. If they keep the AR start, and nerf the AR, so that you’re encouraged to scavenge for weapons that’d be perfect. Because right now its the opposite, there’s an AR meta, but in some ways its worse since the AR meta is way less skillful considering you can just spray rather than worry about landing your shots with an H2/H3 BR.
Sidekick and AR need slight tuning down, but absolutely no to BR starts. Good god no, you type of people got 343 to ruin Halo Reach’s playlists, cause that game was also not designed for such ridiculous starting range and power.
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> Sidekick and AR need slight tuning down, but absolutely no to BR starts. Good god no, you type of people got 343 to ruin Halo Reach’s playlists, cause that game was also not designed for such ridiculous starting range and power.
Thats why bloom existed but then they nerfed it and made the dmr op its even worse in mcc with m/kb now.
I kinda feel the sidekick needs a slower rate of fire but increase the dmg to compensate
BR starts is the only thing that can save this game in its current state.
BR starts are a must. This is fine for social, but beyond that, we should have a BR Slayer social playlist and Ranked should 100% be BR starts. It’s the equivalent of Precision/Auto in MCC, please make it happen 343. I fear for it’s inclusion based on no flighting. It also would make sense why the BR is a 1.5 second TTK and on the slower side, it would be the perfect not too OP BR for a starting weapon.
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> The other weapons are plain bad for anything at range. There is a reason most the other games had it as a starting weapon.
100% agree, this game would be way better with BR starts but I can’t see 343 doing it, I hope the HCS playlist has BR starts because atm its just AR spam and with the radar you just had to crouch around constantly. People that don’t want BR starts get away with so much bad play beacuse they cant be punished at range. People saying that its ok because there is BRs on the map are also wrong due to the fact that there is only 2 on most maps, and when a good player gets the BR, off spawn you cant do anything but just not fight them at range. Why would you ever want an arena FPS game where you dont want to take fights and the games become longer and slower and a total campfest. Boggles my mind, I’m all up for BR starts or buff the sidekick.
BR starts go for it!
AR needs to be tuned some, but BR starts are a bad idea IMO.
I agree, for ranked. Social is fine. BR starts actually add a skill gap. Doesn’t take skill to search the map for better weapons, just wastes time.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. Ar is the perfect weapon for the start in any social game, if you want starter BR who create a specific game mode for it.
The AR needs to be tuned down a bit. Specifically it’s range. I think it’s red redicle range could be reduced, with damage falloff after that. I wouldn’t want to directly nerf it’s damage since this is the best AR we’ve gotten, but it’s currently a bit too good at longer ranges.
But I’ll say no to BT starts the game has always been at its best without them. You get to see far more weapons in the sandbox being used and it isn’t just a cross-map weapon fest. AR starts have always been the best imo.
I personally think the BR start would be a good mode/playlist. IMO it feels nice that the guns on the rack like the BR and Commando have more meaning with the AR start.
I disagree. AR and Sidekick start are much better. They just need to buff the TTK from BR so it can be reliable when picked up.
BR starts are imperative for ranked. It’s probably the most searched playlist on MCC and AR starts always got vetoed back in Halo 3. This is the best version of the AR we have ever seen damage wise but a bit too OP from range.
The BR is a bit of a beast weapon though currently.
It’s way better than the AR and Sidekick and starting with the BR would instantly make the AR and Sidekick worthless in the sandbox.
If we’re gonna have a rifle start then I vote for the Commando. It’s useful at range but much harder to use than the BR. Commando and Sidekick starts could be fun!
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> The BR is a bit of a beast weapon though currently.
> It’s way better than the AR and Sidekick and starting with the BR would instantly make the AR and Sidekick worthless in the sandbox.
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> If we’re gonna have a rifle start then I vote for the Commando. It’s useful at range but much harder to use than the BR. Commando and Sidekick starts could be fun!
They already are worthless. What’s the point in scavenging for weapons? All it does is take time away from combat.
Absolutely not. Precision starts only ended up compounded an issue that Halo games have had for a while now since 2 and thats how most of the sandbox was left ignored due to just how good precision meta was. Why switch out the br you start with in say Halo 3 or the dmr in Reach when chances are that it’s better than most of the weapons you can scavenge around the map? While I say the Infinite AR is a little stronger than I would like it to be, this could also simply be the case that most people keep using it because it’s one of the most consistent weapons you can get shots with how bad the aiming is right now. Even then, the AR meta in Infinite didn’t feel quite as overshadowing to the rest of the sandbox as br/dmr starts did in previous games since the rest of the weapons are actually pretty good as well. I will always hold to the view that precision starts was a bad trend in Halo and it’s only because the community is so use to having it that people actually want it as oppose to it being something that’s actually good for the game.
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> > The BR is a bit of a beast weapon though currently.
> > It’s way better than the AR and Sidekick and starting with the BR would instantly make the AR and Sidekick worthless in the sandbox.
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> > If we’re gonna have a rifle start then I vote for the Commando. It’s useful at range but much harder to use than the BR. Commando and Sidekick starts could be fun!
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> They already are worthless. What’s the point in scavenging for weapons? All it does is take time away from combat.
I see your point but Halo is an arena shooter and a core part of arena shooter gameplay is scavenging the map for more powerful weapons…
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> > > The BR is a bit of a beast weapon though currently.
> > > It’s way better than the AR and Sidekick and starting with the BR would instantly make the AR and Sidekick worthless in the sandbox.
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> > > If we’re gonna have a rifle start then I vote for the Commando. It’s useful at range but much harder to use than the BR. Commando and Sidekick starts could be fun!
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> > They already are worthless. What’s the point in scavenging for weapons? All it does is take time away from combat.
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> I see your point but Halo is an arena shooter and a core part of arena shooter gameplay is scavenging the map for more powerful weapons…
I agree to some extent, but for ranked it needs to be BR starts. Adds way more skill gap where as compared to the AR which is completely nonexistent.