This game NEEDS 8v8

12v12 big team battle is fine and all, but it only works on the huge maps provided, and 4v4 being the only other format leaves a big hole in the middleground - Especially when big 4v4 maps like behemoth and launch site absolutely do not work with how small the teams are. There’s too much playable space in those maps, CTF ends up being entirely predicated on luck, hoping your teammates manage to be in good positions for capturing, or get good spawns when you need to defend. Those two maps would be PERFECT for an 8v8 playlist.

I like 4v4 for close quarters, tightly designed maps like Streets, and big team battle for huge spectacular battles and conflicts, but the middle ground is currently left unfulfilled. I really hope quickplay is split into 4v4 and 8v8 quickplay (with the option to blacklist/whitelist preferred modes) with behemoth and launch site removed from 4v4 and placed in 8v8

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This might sound weird but I feel like the current BTB maps weren’t designed for 12v12 originally.

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I am pretty sure you really gotta make a deal with being level in video settings or 12v12 doesnt even work. everyone wants maxed out settings but i cant get a kill with an entire magazine with the framerate unlocked. just set it to your monitors refresh rate and put minimum to OFF.

are you in the right thread? XD

I don’t think that I follow. Are you saying that the 12v12 maps are too small for good 12v12?

They feel a little too cramped for 12v12, there are less open sightlines, stuff like that.

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I have this feeling that when Dec 8th hits we are going to see way more playlist hit and I bet 8v8 will be in there. There are definitely medium maps where 4v4 feels like I’m running from one end to the other trying to find enemies.

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Ah, I gotcha. At first I thought that the maps were well-suited to 12v12, but I do agree with you about the sightlines, especially on Fragmentation. I think that the other two BTB maps have better lines of sight, but I definitely get what you’re saying.

I was thinking this the other day playing fiesta in launch site, thought the map was to big for 4v4.
Maybe a 6v6 or 8v8, for this type of bigger maps.

The map Behemot is way too big for 4vs4 and its too small for 12vs12.
I would stick with 4vs4 and 12vs12, but remove Behemot or make it smaller.
Showdown and GTF are not working well on Behemot with 4vs4