Okay so I’m not e sports mode and not -Yoink!-, been playing halo going 20 years now. But is it just me when I say 343i wants us to lose? Like I get challenges for a weapon I get matches without that spawn, I get 4 headshots in a row, have an easy game. Get a 4 headshot sniper challenge I get garbage teams with no sniper. I swear if a data miner looked for a system, that changes things due to challenges to make them harder. They would find it. It can’t be just by chance I do all my challenges am getting good lobbies having fun. Then get an ultimate challenge for Fiesta killing sprees, and proceed to be given the worst teams and loadouts possible like a plasma pistol and magnum. And yes I know how to noob combo. But when they have snipers and rockets etc, and the plasma doesn’t home in as good as before. Wtf can I do
You replied to a 7 months old post, but the funny thing is, this is still a problem. Everyone knows the challenge system is bad but 343 hasn’t done almost anything to change it except removing the worst challenges
Kinda sad that a post from 7 months can be used to describe a current infinite issue
like having challenges that require you to win. like really, set me up to loose 9/10 games.
Ngl i totally forget it was 7 months old even funnier is the comment got flagged because its true
It’s just like Bungie is handling the destiny. The beta was designed to keep players playing, not engaged in the content, especially since their barely is any content in this beta. Hints why the challenges have been poor designed.
So going off your title, you would be 100% correct.
I don’t see why your comment got flagged… they must be trying to wipe this under the rug or something.
I would prefer no challenges over what we have. At least that way the match making wouldn’t stack the odds against us.
It really feels like it’s designed to be annoying enough that we buy challenge swaps but instead people just stop playing
Disappointing that this still hasn’t been addressed. We’ve received no update on the state of the “progression system” that they are working on.
Well hell, it’s been almost a year now. Anyone tried datamining this stuff? I don’t know how that works lol
You wouldn’t need to data mine it.
Just spreadsheet your own experience. You can then either show an observed pattern… or even look for actual correlations.
I suspect everyone who had ever tried though were just embarrassed when they found it’s all just random.
When Fiesta first came out there were heaps of claims that you wouldn’t spawn with challenge weapons. Plenty of people huffed and puffed they would prove it.
Spoiler alert. They couldn’t.
It’s all observer bias.
And it’s amazing how deep down the rabbit hole people will go. There are even players who think desync is 343 manipulating players ranks.
I mean, seriously…
I did this and it took 100 spawns before I spawned with the weapon I needed for my challenge. That is 200 weapon possibilities that it failed to give me the weapon that I needed. If it was random, I should get any weapon approximately once every 11 spawns.
If all we need to do is keep track of our own experience, then I proved this game is rigged.
Lol I’m pretty sure fiesta spawn weapons change on the success of one’s team and how a player is doing.
Maths isn’t my strong suit - so I apologise if I have the logic here wrong…
There are 22 weapons? That’s 22 x 21 = 462 combinations.
Only 42 of those combinations have the weapons you are challenged to. So that’s about 42 / 462 = 9% chance of spawning with the weapon you want. Or more importantly, a 91% chance of not spawning with it.
A game averages at 13 spawns? So that’s about a 0.9 to the power of 13 = a bit under 1 in 3 chance of not spawning with your weapon during that game.
The chance of not getting your weapon in over 100 spawns though? That’s 0.9 to the power of 100 = 1 in close to 13,780 cases.
That’s impressive.
But you could still have just been unlucky?
Just very unlucky.
And the last one I did (Cindershot) - I got 0, 2, and 1 in three consecutive games.
Which disproves your experience!
I am hoping you didn’t stop your data collection with a sample size of one.
So what was your trend over time?
I just used the Share button and recorded video, replayed counted the number of times I got weapons to show the sword and rocket are given to the player less than the enemy team. Did this over the course of like 50 matches. Do the number of times given a sword or rocket launcher vs. the number of times died by them. It was very unbalanced. people say git gud or that i can’t play which is waaaay off. Been playing Halo since day 1. The main thing that should tell people this is rigged is the fact that everything is online. Customs games were said to be available offline. They were until season 2 since then they have not been. So no lan matches. No split screen co-op. The main features that made the game fun and popular were taken out. Keep 'em online they’ll mostly buy some cosmetics is the logic they must have been using.