I tried playing it again for the 3rd time since launch and I get mind ****ed thinking of how a halo game can be this bad because:
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Every single game has a quitter and I doubt you even get a punishment that makes you not want to quit games. Infact, you get rewarded by being made to not play this awful game (don’t say play with friends because by saying that proves how bad this game is)
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It’s effortless to spawn camp especially in those grey maps (99% of the maps in reach)
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Armour abilities break the game, especially jetpacks
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Bungie created around 2 maps that are balanced/playable.
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Bungie and probably 343 think that they can get some of CODs playerbase by dumbing the game down and adding bloom + armour abilities when infact, it done the complete opposite and made all the HALO fans ditch the game and the COD fans to go back to COD (hence the 60k players max on at peak times). Look at wolfenstein… it was a complete fail because they added all that perk crap that everyone loves nowadays and guess what? It turned one of the greatest multiplayer franchises into a complete joke.
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Bloom just doesn’t work in a halo game. I know people will say how the previous halo games had bloom and that may be true but if someone stood still in halo 3 and you fired the magnum or BR as fast as you could at their head then you wouldn’t miss a shot unlike in this game.
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The theatre somehow is worse than it was in halo 3 which makes 0 sense and blows my mind.
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The arena is one of the main reasons no one plays reach imo. The 1 - 50 system may have it’s flaws but it was so fun with tons of replayability and you actually felt like you achieved something when you reached a certain rank. Ever since the reach beta people have complained about the arena but nothing was done about it and I pray that 343 have learned from bungie’s success and failiures.
I could add more points but i’ll leave it at that.
> I tried playing it again for the 3rd time since launch and I get mind ****ed thinking of how a halo game can be this bad because:
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> 1. Every single game has a quitter and I doubt you even get a punishment that makes you not want to quit games. Infact, you get rewarded by being made to not play this awful game (don’t say play with friends because by saying that proves how bad this game is)
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> 2. It’s effortless to spawn camp especially in those grey maps (99% of the maps in reach)
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> 3. Armour abilities break the game, especially jetpacks
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> 4. Bungie created around 2 maps that are balanced/playable.
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> 5. Bungie and probably 343 think that they can get some of CODs playerbase by dumbing the game down and adding bloom + armour abilities when infact, it done the complete opposite and made all the HALO fans ditch the game and the COD fans to go back to COD (hence the 60k players max on at peak times). Look at wolfenstein… it was a complete fail because they added all that perk crap that everyone loves nowadays and guess what? It turned one of the greatest multiplayer franchises into a complete joke.
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> 6. Bloom just doesn’t work in a halo game. I know people will say how the previous halo games had bloom and that may be true but if someone stood still in halo 3 and you fired the magnum or BR as fast as you could at their head then you wouldn’t miss a shot unlike in this game.
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> 7. The theatre somehow is worse than it was in halo 3 which makes 0 sense and blows my mind.
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> 8. The arena is one of the main reasons no one plays reach imo. The 1 - 50 system may have it’s flaws but it was so fun with tons of replayability and you actually felt like you achieved something when you reached a certain rank. Ever since the reach beta people have complained about the arena but nothing was done about it and I pray that 343 have learned from bungie’s success and failiures.
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> I could add more points but i’ll leave it at that.
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And what, quitters weren’t a problem in Halo 2 or 3? Shows how much you know.
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Again, are you implying Spawn camping wasn’t a problem in previous Halo titles?
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I will say that Jetpack has some major problems, as do other AAs, but 343 is working to fix them.
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They didn’t add AA and bloom to get more fans, they did it in hopes of increasing competitive play. For Halo to have just released Halo 3.5 would have been a disaster. And about the 60K player: that’s something to be proud of. Few games can even boast more than 20k a year after launch. The only reason COD is so popular is because it caters to the casual crowd, which far outnumbers the competitive community.
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Yes, previous Halo games had bullet spread (of which Bloom is the HUD visualization). And while what you say about the BR and h3 magnum are true, those both had fixed rates of fire. In addition, the BR was a horrible weapon the broke the sandbox. At least Vanilla Halo Reach encourages use of every weapon (much like Halo CE did). That doesn’t mean its perfect, but it’s better.
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Arena was a step in the right direction, as was Halo Reach’s over all ranking system. 1-50 was incredibly broken, encouraged boosting, and spawned its own black market. If that don’t tell you something, I don’t know what will.
Halo Reach isn’t perfect, but with game is. The fact is that Reach has done very well. It outsold any previous Halo title, and until the launch of Gears 3, peaked at 150,000 players while competing with 2 COD titles. What other game can make that claim? Reach has significantly more competition, and more quality competition, than any Halo title prior, and for it to do as well as it has is amazing. I’m sorry you don’t like Reach, but it seems many players do. You don’t like it, don’t play it.
Reach is a step down from the previous Halo’s but its still better then any other game that does not have Halo in its name in my opinion.
If you like Halo, Reach cannot be terrible enough to hate. Simple as that. I don’t care for Reach’s gameplay as much as past Halo’s, but its still Halo and I love it. The title update is fixing a lot of issues anyway, so go rage to somebody who cares, not a forum full of Halo fans…
Well, what else do you expect? It’s reach.
Reach is a good game, it’s just a bad Halo game. It’s basically the Twilight Princess of the Halo series, looked good in previews, everything sounded good but once the game was in our hands, it just didn’t feel at all right.
> Reach is a good game, it’s just a bad Halo game. It’s basically the Twilight Princess of the Halo series, looked good in previews, everything sounded good but once the game was in our hands, it just didn’t feel at all right.
Hey, I liked Twilight Princess.
> > Reach is a good game, it’s just a bad Halo game. It’s basically the Twilight Princess of the Halo series, looked good in previews, everything sounded good but once the game was in our hands, it just didn’t feel at all right.
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> Hey, I liked Twilight Princess.
So do I
>___<
> > > Reach is a good game, it’s just a bad Halo game. It’s basically the Twilight Princess of the Halo series, looked good in previews, everything sounded good but once the game was in our hands, it just didn’t feel at all right.
> >
> > Hey, I liked Twilight Princess.
>
> So do I
> >___<
My favorite animal is a wolf.
My favorite video game character is Link.
So needless to say, I had an Yoink! when I saw the trailer where Link transformed into a wolf.
> > > > Reach is a good game, it’s just a bad Halo game. It’s basically the Twilight Princess of the Halo series, looked good in previews, everything sounded good but once the game was in our hands, it just didn’t feel at all right.
> > >
> > > Hey, I liked Twilight Princess.
> >
> > So do I
> > >___<
>
> My favorite animal is a wolf.
>
> My favorite video game character is Link.
>
> So needless to say, I had an Yoink! when I saw the trailer where Link transformed into a wolf.
Ewwwwwww
> > > > Reach is a good game, it’s just a bad Halo game. It’s basically the Twilight Princess of the Halo series, looked good in previews, everything sounded good but once the game was in our hands, it just didn’t feel at all right.
> > >
> > > Hey, I liked Twilight Princess.
> >
> > So do I
> > >___<
>
> My favorite animal is a wolf.
>
> My favorite video game character is Link.
>
> So needless to say, I had an Yoink! when I saw the trailer where Link transformed into a wolf.
Okayyyyy… moving on.
> > > > > Reach is a good game, it’s just a bad Halo game. It’s basically the Twilight Princess of the Halo series, looked good in previews, everything sounded good but once the game was in our hands, it just didn’t feel at all right.
> > > >
> > > > Hey, I liked Twilight Princess.
> > >
> > > So do I
> > > >___<
> >
> > My favorite animal is a wolf.
> >
> > My favorite video game character is Link.
> >
> > So needless to say, I had an Yoink! when I saw the trailer where Link transformed into a wolf.
>
> Okayyyyy… moving on.
This thread just got derailed.
> > > > > > Reach is a good game, it’s just a bad Halo game. It’s basically the Twilight Princess of the Halo series, looked good in previews, everything sounded good but once the game was in our hands, it just didn’t feel at all right.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey, I liked Twilight Princess.
> > > >
> > > > So do I
> > > > >___<
> > >
> > > My favorite animal is a wolf.
> > >
> > > My favorite video game character is Link.
> > >
> > > So needless to say, I had an Yoink! when I saw the trailer where Link transformed into a wolf.
> >
> > Okayyyyy… moving on.
>
> This thread just got derailed.
good, that means it’s lock time.
In my oppinion there are 2 things in reach’es mp that suck.
- there are way to little real maps in the game. Forge maps flat out suck. Every one of them. They all look the same, they are all broken in some way, and they all have bad spawning(anyone who plays a ton of reach knows this) the game shipped with what 5 or 6 maps and 5 forge “maps”.
- The arena, its really bad compared to halo 2, 3. its obvious it was a failure when halo 3 had half its players playing ranked, but the arena never has more than 1k on anymore(even when there were 100-250k people on it only had 2k in the playlist) i went back and played halo 3 a couple days ago ranked slayer had 3500 on while arena had 850. I still play it but thats only because i want compitition(onyx every season). Atleast its not like gears 3 were there is virtually no differance between ranked and unranked.
Areana has about 10 maps in it right now. i think 5 of them are forge. it sucks so bad. and zealot is half a map, thats designed around its space section but thats out of bounds now. Remind me why it wasnt scraped from arena.
Anyways i feel most your points are very flawed. Still love the game and cant wait for the CEA.
> > > > > > > Reach is a good game, it’s just a bad Halo game. It’s basically the Twilight Princess of the Halo series, looked good in previews, everything sounded good but once the game was in our hands, it just didn’t feel at all right.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey, I liked Twilight Princess.
> > > > >
> > > > > So do I
> > > > > >___<
> > > >
> > > > My favorite animal is a wolf.
> > > >
> > > > My favorite video game character is Link.
> > > >
> > > > So needless to say, I had an Yoink! when I saw the trailer where Link transformed into a wolf.
> > >
> > > Okayyyyy… moving on.
> >
> > This thread just got derailed.
>
> good, that means it’s lock time.
This thread was doomed to be locked long before I got here.
> In my oppinion there are 2 things in reach’es mp that suck.
> 1) there are way to little real maps in the game. Forge maps flat out suck. Every one of them. They all look the same, they are all broken in some way, and they all have bad spawning(anyone who plays a ton of reach knows this) the game shipped with what 5 or 6 maps and 5 forge “maps”.
> 2) The arena, its really bad compared to halo 2, 3. its obvious it was a failure when halo 3 had half its players playing ranked, but the arena never has more than 1k on anymore(even when there were 100-250k people on it only had 2k in the playlist) i went back and played halo 3 a couple days ago ranked slayer had 3500 on while arena had 850. I still play it but thats only because i want compitition(onyx every season). Atleast its not like gears 3 were there is virtually no differance between ranked and unranked.
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> Areana has about 10 maps in it right now. i think 5 of them are forge. it sucks so bad. and zealot is half a map, thats designed around its space section but thats out of bounds now. Remind me why it wasnt scraped from arena.
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> Anyways i feel most your points are very flawed. Still love the game and cant wait for the CEA.
- Not counting the Forge Maps, Reach has 10.
> If you like Halo, Reach cannot be terrible enough to hate. Simple as that. I don’t care for Reach’s gameplay as much as past Halo’s, but its still Halo and I love it. The title update is fixing a lot of issues anyway, so go rage to somebody who cares, not a forum full of Halo fans…
You’re joking right?
As someone mentioned before had they released H3.5 it would have been a disaster… All this title update does IS turn Reach into H3.5.
> This thread was doomed to be locked long before I got here.
This thread was doomed to be locked the second the OP typed in the title.
> > If you like Halo, Reach cannot be terrible enough to hate. Simple as that. I don’t care for Reach’s gameplay as much as past Halo’s, but its still Halo and I love it. The title update is fixing a lot of issues anyway, so go rage to somebody who cares, not a forum full of Halo fans…
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> You’re joking right?
> As someone mentioned before had they released H3.5 it would have been a disaster… All this title update does IS turn Reach into H3.5.
You can still play default Reach.
> I know people will say how the previous halo games had bloom and that may be true but if someone stood still in halo 3 and you fired the magnum or BR as fast as you could at their head then you wouldn’t miss a shot unlike in this game.
Wait, you could actually kill someone with a magnum in Halo 3?