I assume so. But have they made as much money as they could have made if the company’s top brass were even half competent? I very much doubt it.
Can someone tell me what CM”s are what drama is going down with it?
Community Managers (e.g. Sketch/postums/unyshek)
The general drama is that their responses to feedback since launch have been a mix of radio silence, non-answers, PR spin, gaslighting, and their own versions of excuses and blaming the community akin to DICE’s “you guys have brutal expectations”.
The most recent specific drama was that Halo wars 2 and halo 5 were unplayable for almost two days and one of the CMs blamed current events on the other side of the world for why they weren’t doing their jobs.
Very little of the general drama is likely the fault of the CMs themselves… The real problem is a pay grade or two above their level with the decision makers at 343
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While it’s true that upper management should hold them accountable, I don’t think it should excuse their actions. Speaking of Postums recent drama specifically, his job is a PR role, he should at the very least consider what he’s saying before posting anything publicly. It’s common sense and ingrained in his profession. I’m quite surprised he has a job still.
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My guess is that they only post things they either directly or indirectly already know upper management approves of. Rather or not you judge the CMs good at their job, they aren’t the problem. Top management is.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the truth is that basically nobody is working on Halo right now at 343 and they’re all in a safe space room watching CNN because news is scary.
Not to mention the game itself is still messing up for people, so their whole patch didn’t work. Good job 343.
Probably worrying about their kid’s future or something, iunno.
“I’m worried about the future” is not a valid reason to fail to do your job.
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It’s just such a ridiculous notion to have something happening at the other side of the world unrelated to his job making him feel like it’s a valid justification for not doing his job. God, imagine if people back in 2003 be like “I can’t imagine my child living in a world with war and stuff going on” meanwhile tons of troops are dying in the middle east.
It’s one thing if you have immediate family and friends stuck over there, it’s another if you are just “contemplating your future”
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Just look at his latest tweets. He lives in a delusional bubble…
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Microsoft policy of using contract employees and 343’s upper management and dev teams all need a restructure.
Between Halo 5 and now Infinite it’s almost time for Microsoft to just find a new studio to handle the Halo games. But we’ll see how the future of this game plays out.
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Thank you and it Does feel like the fault of halo infinite are on a whole Nother level of control and not really under 343 as if somebody else is pulling the strings and thete pulling the wrong ones
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Oof.
Sadly, you are more right than you know.
༼ づ ಠ_ಠ ༽づ Summon Collision
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Being that guy again, but if you can’t even get the pre-order bonuses right, then how do we expect the rest of it to be functional?
Somewhat related, the only comment on the CM drama is that they refer us to go to support after shifting blame around. Yes, these issues need to go to Halo Support. However, most of us have given up on support because it feels like nothing is done. Could we please have a better automated response other than “Your issue was received!” when it is a consistent issue? I don’t expect ETA’s, but at least add these issues to your list of known issues and notify us that it is added to the list! Don’t go to twitter or reddit, or here in the forums to say it. Use the support site you made specifically for that! Acknowledge these issues in the known issues so it at least looks like you’ve seen it instead of the automated “Just trust us” message. We’ll use the site if you all use it too! Instead they go to other sites, then are shocked when people notify them on there when it looks like they are more active there!
They promised transparency, and I understand having to go back from that considering the state of the game and the toxicity from the community. But they have systems in place so they can at least mitigate the reactions on both sides, but they won’t use them! We’ll use them again as soon as they do too!
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the thing with infinite is that is has potential to be the best. i mean, i’l agree happily that it is a fun game…
but the ballancing, lack of maps, modes, weapons, the major server issue, etc… the issues outweigh the good of this game for me. and it feels honestly more corporate than… halo… it is an improvement over 5 in terms of a halo game. but for every step forth… 343 takes two or even more back… a shame really…
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Just to try and give some hope, every ticket I have submitted from MCC to Infinite regarding bugs, glitches and even cheaters/hackers have been handled. Not saying a few punched tickets makes up for everything that is going on by any means but at least it feels like someone somewhere at 343i is on that ball.
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Until their 18 month contract expires and they are let go.
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And this being the exact reason why I think 343I is having trouble with Infinite, who knows how many contract workers they have. Hell who knows how many people left the company after the management shakeup that happened. It’s like all 343I is paying attention to is the profits being made from the store and not at all to the game itself, and no the mid season update doesnt count. The fact that we don’t even have a roadmap yet is as troubling as it is worrying. I think honestly they’ve just given up at this point and whatever happens to Infinite, happens to Infinite. I hope I’m wrong about that.
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For me Halo Infinite is a great game. I enjoyed the campaign. when it comes to multiplayer yeah we need more ranked playlist like double ranked FFA ranked team sniper for those who enjoy sniping and a variety of map for both BTB and other normal modes. When it comes to customization happy with the coating thing its dope. Not forgetting forge for those who love forging
My issues has been with the Zeta Sky coatings. Microsoft seriously dropped the ball on them, but 343 looks like they haven’t done anything and it isn’t in the list of known issues. All the responses are the automated non-answers. All I ask is for someone, somewhere, acknowledge that, yes, this has actually been seen and they add it to the checklist.
The support for MCC was great, I even got a few custom responses. I didn’t expect much from Infinite, but by now they have had plenty of chances to do something.
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yea 343 really did screw over the playerbase.
When I heard it was going live service, followed by how coatings we’re replacing custom color choice, I knew the game was going to be rough.
And than when it launched I started to say how things were going to play out.
I said the following:
-343 took 50 of the 60 default colors from H5 and
paywalled them. Basically taking away and giving back less
- they further locked those colors to indivudaly cores, weapons, and Vehicles. So they could fill out their content with reselling us the same coating seperately example scarlet wake, scarlet skies, scarlet empress are all the same default color red. It’s one of the free default reds from H5.
-They internally locked cross core away from players so they could resell us armor we liked on the reach armor core for the new armor core.
As far as customization content 343 was inteding on just recycling stuff over and over.
These are the things I said that early on caught flak for saying and now people are starting to realize 343 really did take more away in the name of live service. So they could resell us things we usually earned.
I mean how many times are they going to sell us the color gray.
But this is 343’s MO… They tend to go silent when crap hits the fan… They are the Avatar of gaming devs… When we needed them the most they are nowhere to be found lol.
And the only next event is that tactical.ops which is just more drip fed content. After that we get Fiesta with Tenrai attached to the name. They could have at least made the effort to make it a very unique gamemode.
In the campaign we have like three different types of energy swords. They could have made it a fiesta but with just the swords and grapple shot.
Spaw with a different sword.
Honestly I kinda wonder if they are holding back content. But honestly this silence is only going to make expectations larger… Like if season 2 doesnt blow players away well… They may as well cancel season 3…
Be ause I doubt if they fumble season 2 no one’s going to be giving a crap what they say about season 3. Except forge but I don’t have my hopes up for that either.
They have been the Poster Child for under delivering
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