The games may be profitable for now, but future projects are going to experience a huge financial loss. People will not be willing to spend money for future Halo games, if Infinite as THE spiritual reboot wont be fixed properly.
Same with Battlefield 2042. The game might not be a financial meltdown for now because of the not-refunded preorders, but the next one (if it will be released at all) will (hopefully) not have that many preorders and people will wait, until the quality of the game is confirmed.
And you know, that things are really bad, when @Little_Squash does not want to summon collision
anymore.
The general drama is that their responses to feedback since launch have been a mix of radio silence, non-answers, PR spin, gaslighting, and their own versions of excuses and blaming the community akin to DICE’s “you guys have brutal expectations”.
The most recent specific drama was that Halo wars 2 and halo 5 were unplayable for almost two days and one of the CMs blamed current events on the other side of the world for why they weren’t doing their jobs.
Very little of the general drama is likely the fault of the CMs themselves… The real problem is a pay grade or two above their level with the decision makers at 343
While it’s true that upper management should hold them accountable, I don’t think it should excuse their actions. Speaking of Postums recent drama specifically, his job is a PR role, he should at the very least consider what he’s saying before posting anything publicly. It’s common sense and ingrained in his profession. I’m quite surprised he has a job still.
My guess is that they only post things they either directly or indirectly already know upper management approves of. Rather or not you judge the CMs good at their job, they aren’t the problem. Top management is.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the truth is that basically nobody is working on Halo right now at 343 and they’re all in a safe space room watching CNN because news is scary.
It’s just such a ridiculous notion to have something happening at the other side of the world unrelated to his job making him feel like it’s a valid justification for not doing his job. God, imagine if people back in 2003 be like “I can’t imagine my child living in a world with war and stuff going on” meanwhile tons of troops are dying in the middle east.
It’s one thing if you have immediate family and friends stuck over there, it’s another if you are just “contemplating your future”
Microsoft policy of using contract employees and 343’s upper management and dev teams all need a restructure.
Between Halo 5 and now Infinite it’s almost time for Microsoft to just find a new studio to handle the Halo games. But we’ll see how the future of this game plays out.
Thank you and it Does feel like the fault of halo infinite are on a whole Nother level of control and not really under 343 as if somebody else is pulling the strings and thete pulling the wrong ones
Being that guy again, but if you can’t even get the pre-order bonuses right, then how do we expect the rest of it to be functional?
Somewhat related, the only comment on the CM drama is that they refer us to go to support after shifting blame around. Yes, these issues need to go to Halo Support. However, most of us have given up on support because it feels like nothing is done. Could we please have a better automated response other than “Your issue was received!” when it is a consistent issue? I don’t expect ETA’s, but at least add these issues to your list of known issues and notify us that it is added to the list! Don’t go to twitter or reddit, or here in the forums to say it. Use the support site you made specifically for that! Acknowledge these issues in the known issues so it at least looks like you’ve seen it instead of the automated “Just trust us” message. We’ll use the site if you all use it too! Instead they go to other sites, then are shocked when people notify them on there when it looks like they are more active there!
They promised transparency, and I understand having to go back from that considering the state of the game and the toxicity from the community. But they have systems in place so they can at least mitigate the reactions on both sides, but they won’t use them! We’ll use them again as soon as they do too!
the thing with infinite is that is has potential to be the best. i mean, i’l agree happily that it is a fun game…
but the ballancing, lack of maps, modes, weapons, the major server issue, etc… the issues outweigh the good of this game for me. and it feels honestly more corporate than… halo… it is an improvement over 5 in terms of a halo game. but for every step forth… 343 takes two or even more back… a shame really…
Just to try and give some hope, every ticket I have submitted from MCC to Infinite regarding bugs, glitches and even cheaters/hackers have been handled. Not saying a few punched tickets makes up for everything that is going on by any means but at least it feels like someone somewhere at 343i is on that ball.
And this being the exact reason why I think 343I is having trouble with Infinite, who knows how many contract workers they have. Hell who knows how many people left the company after the management shakeup that happened. It’s like all 343I is paying attention to is the profits being made from the store and not at all to the game itself, and no the mid season update doesnt count. The fact that we don’t even have a roadmap yet is as troubling as it is worrying. I think honestly they’ve just given up at this point and whatever happens to Infinite, happens to Infinite. I hope I’m wrong about that.
For me Halo Infinite is a great game. I enjoyed the campaign. when it comes to multiplayer yeah we need more ranked playlist like double ranked FFA ranked team sniper for those who enjoy sniping and a variety of map for both BTB and other normal modes. When it comes to customization happy with the coating thing its dope. Not forgetting forge for those who love forging
My issues has been with the Zeta Sky coatings. Microsoft seriously dropped the ball on them, but 343 looks like they haven’t done anything and it isn’t in the list of known issues. All the responses are the automated non-answers. All I ask is for someone, somewhere, acknowledge that, yes, this has actually been seen and they add it to the checklist.
The support for MCC was great, I even got a few custom responses. I didn’t expect much from Infinite, but by now they have had plenty of chances to do something.