This fourm has become an absolute joke

This is all this forum has become, a place for any little issue in this game, people complain, all rationality has been lost. 343 is addressing the issues at least trying to amend some mistakes yet people complain.

I remember when waypoint launched in 09, the fourms were not as active as Bungie but it was still a good place to come too, looking at some good topics, now its become a cesspool of stupidity and people complaining about every little issue they can think of they does not conform to their frail egos.

Halo 4 has issues, yes its a good game overall in my eyes (better than Blops 2 for me), but it could have been better. The modes work, so do the weapons, the tools exist for some refinement but its not been left to that. Glitches, sandbox issues, and mainly infinity slayer issues but 343 is changing that. People demanded 343 change this stuff in blood basically. Guess what happens? We get 2 title updates announced the later on bringing sandbox refinement and people still need to -Yoink- and complain. There are going to be more title updates beyond this. But the complaints do not end there… no skill ranking system, no file browser, issues with certain content for the game.

People yell and act like spoiled children here, 343 is addressing them, people still complain about it. Every few days when I come back to check some stuff, I don’t know if I should laugh or cry for these people. Some of these arguments were logical at first, some issues like the DMR, boltshot, exploits yes those were fine but then we get some absolutely nutty ones, someone trying to sue 343 and microsoft for the content not appearing? Is this seriously what the community has become? People complaining about the DLC issue, why would you complain if you are getting it free? Im an LE owner, I’m still going to get the other map packs later on, it was a mistake from Microsoft.

People who got the LE or season pass may be pissed off but guess what:

S*** HAPPENS GET OVER IT. This community has just sunk so low, I mean complaints about design for the maps and sandbox are just opinion but stupid reasons like loadouts not appearing, lag, and more, they are just common simple bugs they fix, even games as old as wow still have bugs popping up every now and then but you don’t see their community getting all torches and pitchforks over it!

People are almost demanding satisfaction for the stupidest reasons, this entire post is not for details over the game but just how stupid this community has become. Your views on the game, alright thats your opinon, we all feel differently about it but when the majority of people see one tiny issue, rather than just wait, simply restarting the console, or just waiting till later, most do the opposite:

RUSH TO THE INTERNET AND COMPLAIN!

Ugh this gives me such a headache and makes me wonder, how in this day and age are people still acting this stupid? Did common sense die the day this game released? Is there no patience left anywhere?

343 is trying to amend for their mistakes but people still complain. We have non-American players having issues with the whole specializations event and those who got the season pass and the recent Crimson map being free. When Team fortress 2 went free to play people felt bad but guess what, THEY GOT OVER IT.

If someone worked for 60 years to become a millionaire then someone around 20 years of age won 100 million, would that 60 year old complain? Maybe but that’s part of life, stuff happens no matter if you like it or not.

For the issues in the game, no amount of complaining will ever fix the game. Only one thing will, TIME AND PATIENCE. No ranking system? Its coming, No file browser? Its coming. No competitive community? Actually it still exists, someone stated this but that community is still alive, it exists because aside from those who complain, the ones that are acting rationally trying to pitch ideas to 343 are doing a service.

If had a bad day and then a seagull craps on you, do you want vengeance and demand retribution on a meaningless trash eating bird? Or do you just let it be a bygone? The bird crapping on you was out of your power.

If you bought a $1000 HDTV and then your friend gets the same for free due to some error are you going to demand he returns it and pays for it or just be happy for him? I bought the LE and I really don’t care about the DLC issue one way or another, go enjoy the maps if you got them for free, I mean other leaks like this occurred on xbox live before and we did not have as big an issue there.

S*** happens, but its no reason to get all fired up and just come here and complain. I enjoy halo 4, I have some issues but I’m not ranting about every little detail. I had a DLC issue but rather than come here and demand 343 or live get on it you know what I did? I just restarted my system, fixed there problem solved.

For those who have issues with the game, only 2 things will fix it: Patience for the stuff to come, its better late then never. if 343 wanted they could have cut and run but least they support the game. The other thing is rationality if there is an issue or something feels off then tell 343, they have 2 topics for this the exploit location topic and how you personally feel about the game and your opinion for some stuff on the game, they look at those. But rather than go there everyone makes giant topics about how much they hate this or that and yell vengeance upon 343 rather than stay clam and use common sense.

For those with any little issue, just have common sense or don’t bother coming here, if you hate the game so much why bother voicing your outrage? Does us all a favor and saves time for those of you who want to see this game rot in hell. I mean I saw topics with people complaining about terminal videos not loading, now we have one with a guy saying he is going to sue them.

Just have common sense about these issues, if its something not appearing then wait a while, look up the status of the issue rather than joining the stupidity mob on a simple issue.

This forum is just becoming terrible, its own version of fox news, people can’t seriously just be patient and look into things before going and joining the rant train?

I see issues with Halo 4 but I’m content with whats there now and whats coming, we still have these coming:
Episodes 6-10 of spartan ops
2 more map packs for those with the season pass
the Competition skill rank
the file browser

and all the more we are still getting exploit fixes weekly and future title updates beyond this simple other one. 343 is only around 200 people, they are limited, their job for now is to support this game till halo 5 comes out. For those pissed off about the DLC issue suck it up, people still cheat on exams and succeed despite the work I put in but I don’t care, that’s life people and things always find ways around the norm. Microsoft made a simple mistake, get over it.

Geez, just take a breath and think before doing something. We have stuff called brains people, I highly recommend using it.

Hey, I’m being rational. I don’t play games without a local only search filter, so I’m not playing Halo 4. It’s just that simple.

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Guess how long I waited to use the File Browser in Halo 3 and Reach when the games first released?

0 DAYS.

Guess how many times I was screwed over by Bungie/Microsoft when Halo 3 / Halo Reach came out?

0 TIMES.

Guess how many bugs I ran into when playing Halo 3 / Halo Reach?

0 BUGS.

Aww poor you. You ever think the forums might reflect the game.

The point of a forum is to hold discussion. With such a terrible game as Halo 4, the only discussion to be had is about what needs fixing. Therefore, the forums are about what needs fixing.

It’s not hard to comprehend.

I agree with your premise. But I would recommend doing away with the flame-magnet posts and just post something relevant and contribution worthy. I’m not hip on the negativity either, but there are quite a few threads discussing game and plot aspects that are pretty interesting.

Once the mud settles, it’ll be all good.

Well everybody from bungie.net came over here so what did you expect?

It’s funny because the game is just that bad that I’d rather be here on this forum arguing pointlessly with strangers than actually play it.

Amen. I agree with you completely, this forum has become the definition of rediculous. Check out my post in the thread, “why so much hate on halo 4” and I give an explaination of the human conditon that might straighten things out for you. People simply hate because they need something to hat on, if you want more detail check out that thread.

TL:DR/ I agree, this forum is a joke, if I was 343i I would delete this firggen forum and start from the ground up. It has become HaloHatePoint. It needs to end, anyone trying to have intelligent conversation about the game on here, is constantly flooded with whiners. That is why I have resorted to other forums. It’s sad to see how pathetic and needy the forum community has become. It’s not 343 thats screwing up, it’s all the twelve year olds that can’t keep their pants on.

> The point of a forum is to hold discussion. With such a terrible game as Halo 4, the only discussion to be had is about what needs fixing. Therefore, the forums are about what needs fixing.
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> It’s not hard to comprehend.

Care to elaborate then?

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How many times did I have to login to view my stats in Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo Reach?

0 TIMES.

Honestly OP; people just want a soap box to get up on and vent their frustrations when they feel that injustice has befallen them. What better place to do that, than on the official forums of said greifer?

Perhaps Waypoint has gotten ‘worse’ because Halo has gotten worse and worse since Halo 3?

I had 0 complaints about H1 and H2
I had 1 complaint regarding the lag in H3

Reach was bad and H4 is abysmal. I stopped counting how many complaints I have about these 2 games.

It’s even more unfortunate that now they’re are a multitude of threads that are complaining about complaining. Ignore all the guff and contribute to positive threads will ya?

I love Halo 4, but this forum section is AMAZING! So much better than the game, or any game for that matter. Watching people complain about paying for what I got for free…pure entertainment! And @FAWR, I saw that post a while ago, agree totally. The game is good, its just not Halo 3 so all the people that think they are true fans (I’ve been playing since CE too guys) think they need to hate on it.
But yes, this forum is more enjoyable than the game. Not because the game is bad, but this is a new level of hilarity!

> > The point of a forum is to hold discussion. With such a terrible game as Halo 4, the only discussion to be had is about what needs fixing. Therefore, the forums are about what needs fixing.
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> > It’s not hard to comprehend.
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> Care to elaborate then?

On what?!?

Read the forums. Play the game. Doing either of those two things should provide you with enough evidence of why this game is broken, doesn’t work, isn’t Halo, isn’t fun, or any other alteration of the idea that the game sucks.

I agree with the OP completely. The problem is not the game. It is the community. Is the game perfect? No. There are no perfect games. But coming onto the forums and spewing vitriolic hate for the developers is not going to help Halo 4 become a more perfect game.

All of us, as users of the Internet, need to fundamentally change the way we view online communication. Just because the Internet is anonymous and impersonal doesn’t mean that logic and manners should be ignored.

Imagine, if you will, that you happened to meet Frank O’Connor walking down the street. Would you flip him off and yell that 343 has ruined Halo? Or would you shake his hand, tell him how much you appreciate the hard work he and his colleagues have put into making Halo 4, then ask him if he is aware of how ridiculously overpowered the DMR and Boltshot are? The latter course of action would be much more likely to get results.

That is the way I view these forums. This is our direct line of communication to the developers, people who have devoted their professional lives to entertaining us. We should all keep that in mind when we come on these forums to give our feedback and suggest updates. A little respect can go a long way.

> This is all this forum has become, a place for any little issue in this game, people complain, all rationality has been lost. 343 is addressing the issues at least trying to amend some mistakes yet people complain.

I’ll just stop you right there. While I agree there are people who aren’t being rational, most of the complaints are completely valid and are there to help 343i improve both their games and their company by understanding that their actions actually do have some form of repercussions. To just brush it off and not complain about it is a horrible message to send because then it looks as though we don’t care what 343i does or the decisions they make.

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