Things I hate about Halo 4 +why it might fail

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Some of these in this post are some reasons why I think Halo 4 will fail and some things I don’t like about the game
Well here are my reasons -

FIRST – Chiefs new armor. I heard this from some person on EGMNOW that I was chatting with about Halo 4. Apparently Cortana finds an armor upgrade data thing (I don’t remember what he said exactly) and uploads it into his suit and the Nano-bots somehow changes his suit. Okay… Honestly that’s just stupid in my opinion because if this is true, since they’re stuck on the forward unto Dawn then why didn’t they give Master Chief the armor upgrade in Halo 3? It makes almost no sense. The only way I could see Cortana getting the armor is by her somehow finding it somewhere else or if the upgrade isn’t complete so they didn’t give it to Chief.

SECOND – Spartan Ops. Already this sounds to me like a rip off of Call of Duty’s Special Ops game mode. Which basically it is because you do, well…… Special Operations missions as Spartans in a squad. But honestly that’s not a big problem because game companies these days love stealing the same ideas from each other. The BIG problem for me is that you have to pay a season pass to play the missions. You get the first season free but really I paid for the game isn’t that enough? Also people like me buy the DLC too! So your making 60 dollars off every game you sell plus additional money off the DLC you make (Which I hope still costs 800 MS points/10 dollars.). I mean it’s pretty cool that they’re coming out with a new Spartan Ops mission every week but really people don’t need to be buying stuff for games all the time. Like Call of Duty Elite (Which honestly doesn’t matter because it affects nothing, it just gives you DLC free for 60 bucks a year I think.), Battlefield 3 and a lot of other EA games online passes, Homefront Multiplayer Pass and before I forget Battlefield 3 Premium now that’s just a joke. There’s most likely more too.

THIRD – The inability of having an Open Beta for all Halo Players. Yes I know it takes time and money for Beta’s to be made but it gives a chance for players to spot major bugs maybe not found on the E3 Beta and it also gives players a chance to kind of try the game out so they know if they like it or not. I mean they already have a beta they just need to make a server for the beta and then people can catch bugs and whatnot for 343i! I’m sure the money spent on the Beta would pay off.

FOURTH – The Multiplayer. I don’t know if I’m getting this right but what I’m hearing is that it’s called “War Games” now. Just a weird name… but huh? It has a story to it? … That’s what I heard “War Games” as they call it now apparently has a somewhat story to it. I heard this from some sites, some people on Xbox, and just some posts.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=70612731&postRepeater1-p=1 Look at D PEAR’s post. If this is true this will just be plain stupid. It’s multiplayer, IT DOESN’T NEED A STORY TO IT! You just play with your friends there doesn’t need to be a story on why the reds fight blues. It’s just a feature to play with friends.

FIFTH - General stuff. The progression system. You can unlock stuff for your character that “empowers” you. Which means the highest ranking people will most likely get the best stuff great… Customizing loadouts. I thought I was playing Halo not COD. What I’m thinking here is that you can customize weapons that you can spawn with. I hope I’m wrong on that one. And finally Power Weapons not on the same timers. That can be nothing but bad because rockets could spawn in 60 seconds or you could be waiting 120 seconds or more. I don’t want to have to wait right at the rockets to know when it spawns.

Those are my concerns and reasons why Halo 4 might fail.

Oh, and this is What I hope to see in the game. Seeing the Arbiter, If I don’t see him since he’s kind of a main character there’s going to be a problem there. Allied Elites, considering if you see Arbiter I would imagine he would be with other Elites. And I hope to see firefight in Halo 4 too.

Well there you go. If you don’t agree with me don’t comment about how stupid this Topic is because there’s plenty of people that agree with some or most of this.

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Everything I read is an opinion and that’s fine and all, but what exact is so bad about Spartan Ops? The name is weak, but free campaign missions? What’s not like love? I mean, I don’t even think you need a season pass of any kind for Halo 4 and I have yet to hear about future seasons of missions costing money.

Oh, and game companies have been using ideas other developers created since the beginning of videogaming. Halo did too when it started out.

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Wow you are very ill informed. I suggest looking at some of the threads that have been stickied at the top of the Halo 4 forums, so that you can get caught up with the new info before posting about things that you are not properly informed about.

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This double post was brought to you by lag.

Enjoy.

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faith of humanity is at an all time low

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> FIRST – Chiefs new armor. .

I thought it was the same armor just different artisticly. Could be wrong.

> SECOND – Spartan Ops.

There is nothing new under the sun. You name me a feature in a game, I’ll name 5 other games that have it. Also, Spartan Ops has (I think) 50 free missions. Quit being so greedy.

> THIRD – The inability of having an Open Beta for all Halo Players.

An open beta would not have worked. People would only play it to play Halo 4 early, not to try to playtest and get it fixed. An open beta does not give a game insta-success (the same goes for a closed beta).

> FOURTH – The Multiplayer.

The multiplayer has a story! *Gasp. This is unacceptable. How dare you try and make multiplayer canonical. This an outrage! It must be contained! Somebody fire the Halo rings before it’s too late!

> FIFTH - General stuff. .

There is a ranking system and a progression system.

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  1. Cortana only updated the firmware, she didn’t change his armor. His new look is the result of artistic liberty. Its the same armor he has always worn.

  2. Spartan Ops looks nothing like Spec. Ops from CoD. I don’t know if your just ignorant to what Spartan Ops is or it could be you have never played CoD, but your clearly wrong.

  3. 343i is having a closed beta and having it play tested, an open beta isn’t needed.

  4. “War Games” takes place on the Infinity 6 months after the Campaign and is supposed to be virtual training for the Spartan IV that you play as.

  5. Halo 4’s loadouts aren’t like CoD and players will have things available to them at the start so they aren’t at a disadvantage. Once again I don’t know if your just ignorant or have never played CoD.
    As for power weapons, they are on set timers they just move around the map and its not the same weapon every time. For example to start rockets will be on map then 120 seconds later a sniper will spawn in a different location. Teams will be told when they spawn on their screen. Also the weapon pools are chosen by map.

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You’re terribly informed.Trust me Halo 4 won’t fail its already ahead of sales against the other big game of the year Black Ops 2,and so far 343 imo has done a lot better then bungie has.

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First-

I have absolutely no problem with a new company making visual modification to improve the aesthetics without explaining it with story. (I don’t think your friend is right, I believe it is classified under “artistic liberties”).

Also, I firmly believe that if you think a visual armour change is a significant problem with the game, I don’t think that you grasp a deep concept of what makes a game good.

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I don’t think that simply because one game steals a great idea from another it should be reprimanded for that action. Theatre being taken from halo and put into call of duty is one of the single greatest advances for that franchise.

Also, getting one season free is a pretty good deal. They’re including a story, diverse (hopefully) missions and fun gameplay free. If you don’t think the second season will be worth it… don’t buy it.

Third- An open beta is useful I think. I don’t see why they haven’t done one. I think it would be helpful to flush out bugs. If they nail it anyway, I don’t have a problem with a closed beta only.

Fourth-If you don’t like the addition of something that gives one continuous fluid storydriven experience… ignore the symbols, decals, text and sound in the menus… POOF, no more story in multiplayer. Its not like they’ve taken anything out of multiplayer to include a story… EXCEPT FOR FREAKIN’ ELITES. RRRRRAAAGGEEE!

Fifth- If 343 Does a good job, nothing will truly make veterans “better” off the start of a game than noobs. If everythings balanced. Veterans will simply have more choices for playing the game longer. Shouldn’t upset too many people. Besides, if you have a problem with this… become a better player.

Customization, if done correctly, won’t make a game worse. It can’t… all it does is add personality to a game. More options, more enhancing your playstyle… etc. You actually get to feel like “you” are in the game, rather than controlling some steel wearing cyborg.

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> SECOND – Spartan Ops. Already this sounds to me like a rip off of Call of Duty’s Special Ops game mode. Which basically it is because you do, well…… Special Operations missions as Spartans in a squad. But honestly that’s not a big problem because game companies these days love stealing the same ideas from each other. The BIG problem for me is that you have to pay a season pass to play the missions. You get the first season free but really I paid for the game isn’t that enough? Also people like me buy the DLC too! So your making 60 dollars off every game you sell plus additional money off the DLC you make (Which I hope still costs 800 MS points/10 dollars.). I mean it’s pretty cool that they’re coming out with a new Spartan Ops mission every week but really people don’t need to be buying stuff for games all the time. Like Call of Duty Elite (Which honestly doesn’t matter because it affects nothing, it just gives you DLC free for 60 bucks a year I think.), Battlefield 3 and a lot of other EA games online passes, Homefront Multiplayer Pass and before I forget Battlefield 3 Premium now that’s just a joke. There’s most likely more too.

Another ill informed child who doesn’t know the difference between one thing and another just because of the name…

MW3 Spec. Ops is a horde survival mode, many games have it. Its nothing new. Spartan Ops on the other hand is a SECOND campaign. Thats right a second campaign, that is bringing 12 hours of gameplay per season. The whole ‘multiplayer story is stupid’ USED to be my opinion, but it makes so much sense. War Games is a training simulator where your Spartan trains to become a better soldier. Spartan Ops is where your Spartan is placed on teams to go on missions in Requiem.

If you still think any of this is a blind copy of CoD or just plain stupid, then I have lost all faith in the community.

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every poll i see like this back fire’s

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You’re argument is not only opinionated and baseless, but very fanboy-ish.

First- His armor looks awesome, but if the canon you stated has any truth to it, then it is quite odd. But this is an opinion that will not ruin the game and does not affect the overall quality of the game. If this might ruin the game for you, then you’re acting childish.

Second- Your information here is inaccurate. In the Gameinformer Cover Story of Halo 4, it stated we are receiving MULTIPLE seasons for Spartan Ops without having to pay for DLC. And if I remember correctly (not 100% sure tbh) they are ALL free (it’s hard to believe they won’t charge us somewhere down the road). If you don’t like the name, tough luck. Spartan Ops is offering us something entirely new and fresh that is RELEVANT to the Halo Universe and will show us important details leading us into Halo 5. 5 BRAND NEW missions a week with a CINEMATIC showcasing the canon. The only thing remotely similar to COD’s Special ops is maybe the title.

Third- I would have liked to have a beta, but I promise you’ll survive without it. A beta doesn’t guarantee anything anyways. It did not make Reach a success or a failure.

Fourth- You dislike a name… big deal. The Multliplayer having a story to it will not make or break the Multiplayer. The Multiplayer GAMEPLAY will determine whether or not Halo 4 is a success.

Fifth- You don’t like the general changes made to Halo 4… have you seen the population of Halo Reach’s Multiplayer lately? There had to be changes because Halo was starting to show its age. Many people were moving on to other games after the terrible execution of Reach.

Changes had to be made, and while I’m not 100% sure that these changes will guarantee that Halo 4 is going to be great, I’m happy to see that 343i wasn’t afraid of updating the Halo experience, which meant upsetting the few to please the many.

It’s already been announced that there will be no dedicated “Firefight Mode.”

Please do your research before you insult the people working hard to bring us Halo 4. If not for that reason, do the research so you don’t embarrass yourself so hard next time.

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If in the possibility the OP decides to go “LOL U MAD I TROLL U!”, I
ll leave this here.

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You need to re-educate yourself on the finer points of Halo 4, OP. Based on how you’re describing what you know, you seem to not have a real sense of what Halo 4 has to offer and are just assuming things

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  1. Cortana upgraded the suit in the 5 year time span she had nothing to do. She upgraded the firmware, which made HUD changes and some slight armor changes. She also had access to some nano-bot technology, doing more subtle changes. The major changes are because of artistic liberties. Its a new developer, you should expect new artistic feels and designs. This wouldn’t make Halo 4 fail, though. Really a subtle change when thinking of the whole game.

  2. The name is a bit weird, yes, but thats it. Its an evolution of firefight. An eposidic campaign after the campaign. Every week you get a CG scene and 5 missions with replayablity and difficulty like campaign. It all follows a continual story that unfolds as the season expands, and it follows you’re Spartan. Nothing like Spec Ops, besides the name. There are 10 weeks of this, 50 missions, and its all free! You don’t do anything else for Spartan Ops besides download the missions, and they are only considering making a season 2 cost.

  3. A beta isn’t any more efficient than a private/internal beta is. Players treat it as a demo, and the community now would only use it to complain. It will take away a lot of polishing time that 343i wants. It won’t hurr the game if they’re doing as much internal testing as they say they are, which I doubt they aren’t.

  4. Its not a game breaker and doesn’t affect anything in gameplay. No problem, ignore the story if you want. Just a little extra story and purpose for those who care.

  5. There are two systems, ranking and progression. We know very little about the unlock system, but there are pre-set loadouts designed for the map for anyone to use whether the object is unlocked or not. It will not feel like CoD. And the Ordinance Dropa encourage map movement, fighting for weapons, ends power weapon camping, and they are predictable times at pre-set randomized locations. Everyone knows ahead of time.

The Arbiter is not a main character in Halo 4 nor is he such a main character that he is required to appear. He is occupied with a rising faction system on Sanghelious, and is busy with his own faction. Halo 4 is about the Chief. The Arbiter was not on the Dawn at the end. The Elites in Halo 4 are a hostile faction, not the Arbiter’s.

Thanks for keeping this your opinions, but it would be good to look and catch up on all information and story before making your opinions.

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Double post…

Oh, and firefight is confirmed out. Spartan Ops will scratch that itch, if you decide to get over the name and do some research.

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You have got the worst opinion to date.

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does the poster even no what he is talking about. Almost everything he said was wrong

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I disagree with OP on every level. Yet more whining instead of constructive criticism.