I’ve played the Beta a fair bit, and I like it; it feels much better than Halo 4, for the most part.
My only question is… where are the vehicles?
So far, we’ve only seen small Team Slayer maps. Personally, I’m all about Rumble Pit and Big Team Battle when it comes to multiplayer. I love big vehicle battles on maps like Blood Gulch, Valhalla, Sandtrap, and so on. I was a big fan of Halo:Reach’s Invasion mode and vehicle-focused Firefight maps like Installation 04 and Beachhead, and I’m wondering… is Halo 5:Guardians going to have vehicles at all?
It seems insane that 343i would even consider omitting vehicles altogether, even if it was just multiplayer. What kind of game would Halo 5 be if there was no Warthog, or no vehicle gameplay at all? Maybe I’m being paranoid, but the lack of vehicle maps in the Beta has me worried that there may be no vehicles in the final game.
There were a lot of problems with vehicles in Halo 4; namely the tissue-paper armor and Plasma Pistol/Plasma Grenade starts, which made getting in Warthog suicidal. I want to see these problems fixed; and taking vehicles out of the equation entirely is NOT the answer, just for the record.
I don’t understand why people can’t read. You’re testing the ARENA gameplay, which is the best way to test the new mechanics and let people know Arena is back.
Meh i think we can do without vehicles for once in halo… i don’t think it would hurt the game at all; with how fast it plays. I’m ready to go back to a arena only fps.
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I really do hope you are kidding me. No vehicle Halo will absolutely destroy the franchise.
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no it won’t 90% of mp maps don’t even use vehicles. I’m not talking about the campaign.
Of course there will be vehicles, the beta is focused around core gameplay a year before launch and 4v4 is the most straightforward thing to test. If they are smart though they will have another ‘Beta’ closer to release that would include vehicles.
To be quite honest, BTB is what I am most concered about. Everything up until now has been tied with the ‘Arena’ qualifier around everything. I fear among other things that loadouts and pods are just going to be hiding in BTB since “Arean is only a small part of the Halo 5 experience”.
My other concern based off what we have seen so far is that 343 will show no restraint in BTB when it comes to spartan abilities. Destroying ghosts with ground pound, flipping warthogs with charge, etc, all with the justification: because were spartans her der… Ye gods I can see terrible things happening to BTB, which is why silence is really unsettling.
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Which is why atleast 40% of maps should use vehicles, they add a large scale coordinated sense of teamwork to the game.
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I have a feeling that the week 3 map Pegasus might have a ghost or mongoose on it, maybe even a banshee? but I agree it would be nice to see how vehicles work in the new sandbox, and I never really liked arena maps anyway
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Doubtful they’ll put 40% levels having vehicles…
go ahead & get you vehicle i’ll be waiting for you with plasma nades/plasma pistol. Vehicles have always been near worthless in halo… this isn’t battlefield where they actually play a big part in the mp.
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Yeah sound pretty Spartan like. Also there have been rumours of 343 extending the Beta an extra week and testing some BTB, but this is just rumour. It would be a nice compensation for MCC not working. Also 343i knows better than to put load outs and personal ordnance drops in this game after the response halo 4 got, and im pretty sure they stated that there would be no load outs or personal ordnance in Halo 5.
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> I have a feeling that the week 3 map Pegasus might have a ghost or mongoose on it, maybe even a banshee? but I agree it would be nice to see how vehicles work in the new sandbox, and I never really liked arena maps anyway
They did say Pegasus would be a forge map, and they are usually pretty big.
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This. Vehicles have been a part of Halo since the very beginning; Playlists like Big Team Battle and Invasion have always helped to add more diversity to matchmaking. If it were nothing but 4v4 Team Slayer, it would get really boring, really fast.
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Correction: Vehicles have been near useless in post-Halo 3 halo. In Halo 1, 2, and 3 multiplayer they were very effective in the right hands, but a combination of changes to the way vehicle health works in halo games Reach onwards, spawning with Plasma Pistols, and decreased vehicle resistance to small arms fire has made them less useful.
40% vehicle maps is a reasonable goal, and if anything that percentage should be higher, maybe 50 or even 60%.
Just look at the Halo 3 map list for reference. Of the 24 maps released for that game (including DLC) 12 had vehicles on them in one form or another. Thats 50%, and it should be the norm.
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You are delusional, the only time vehicles were useless was in Halo 4 at points, and that was only because of plasma nades and pistol starts. Even on Halo 4 you could dominate with vehicles sometimes and even more in previous games. They play massive part, always have and always will.
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No.
BtB is important. As are vehicles.
Warthogs and Ghosts are as iconic as the Pistol and Needler.
