I dont know about the rest of you but I think 343 should have kept chiefs armor, well technicaly we can still use it just in multiplayer but I think chief could have kept his armor especially if [SPOILER ALERT] he takes it off in the end. You could say that 343 only wasted what could have been chiefs NEXT armor in halo 5, possibly mark VII instead of a mark VI upgrade!. I say they could have probebly used the exact multiplayer mark vi and cortana could have made “small” upgrades.
why would you fight a war with severely outdated gear?
Master Chief was in the middle of a cyro sleep. Why and how did his armor change? It really didn’t make much sense at all and I could of seen them changing it in Halo 5, when he;s back with the UNSC.
you should all stop caring.
it’s called artistic license. why did the elites, grunts, jackals and all other covies apparently look TOTALLY different now? that should concern you a bit more.
the same happened between halo 2 and 3. yes, it did, his armor changed while 117 was on the forerunner ship.
don’t believe me? look at his hand plates in pictures of halo 2 and 3. they are different, there were forum threads everywhere on bungie.net asking why it changed, and it was ridiculous.
The question’s been brought up before with no clear answer. The only attempt to address the change was given in-game by Cortana the moment you step out of the cryo tube. She says she upgraded your firmware.
To anyone that knows computer technology, there are 3 basic “-wares”: Hardware, Firmware, Software. Hardware is the physical stuff, in this case Chief’s armor, which was Gen1 Mk VI when he went into cryo. Firmware is essentially the hardware’s OS. It’s the programming that’s required for the hardware to function; drivers, if you will. Lastly, software is essentially the add-on stuff, like his HUD, motion-tracker, the smart-link for the riflescopes, etc…
Halsey’s Journal from the Reach Limited edition indicates that Gen1 Mk VII armor, the theoretical pinnacle of Gen1 tech, would have the ability to use nano-technology to update the hardware even in cryo. Again, this is Gen1 Mk VII. So, when Cortana said she updated his firmware, all she really did was tweak with his OS. It shoudnt have changed the armor’s appearance at all, as she did no Hardware upgrades, because Mk VI isnt capable of upgrading while in cryo like Mk VII would be.
Chief obviously is wearing some variant of Gen2 armor for the entire game. In multiplayer you have the option (if you’ve beaten the game on Legendary) to wear that variant, and the corresponding text says clearly that it is Gen2 armor with older Mark VI plating. It’s a plot hole, pure and simple. However, you’re never going to hear 343i explain it. They dont care to try, because it’s honestly such a small and frivolous issue that it’s not worth dealing with.
Macho’s also right: it’s artistic license. The same people that are bugged by this little issue are also bugged by the fact that in the web-series Forward Unto Dawn you meet 2 other SIIs (Kelly-087 and Fred-104) who are clearly wearing Mark V armor a good 25 or so years before it was developed in canon. Why? Because 1) it might confuse the audience as to which one was John-117, and 2) Microsoft and 343i werent going to spend the money to produce 3 sets of Mark IV armor for the movie. So, they just reused 2 sets that were made for Reach’s “Deliver Hope” trailer. It’s a plot-hole in the movie for lore-obsessed fans, but again the developers dont care. It’s such a minor issue to them that it’s not worth trying to get right.
also…practicality
non migrating shoulder pads SUCK in cutscnes
It was artistic license. That’s it. There’s no canonical reason. For all intents and purposes, the armor chief has in Halo 4 is the same armor he had in Halo 3 and Halo 2.
It isn’t really artistic license. Master Chief is using an outdated and frankly worn to -Yoink- piece of technology. The human race has had 4 years of “peace” with the covenant to study theirs and forerunner technology. Look at the Infinity, that is the whole point of the damn ship.
Are you honestly going to say they haven’t made a better suit of armor for their Spartans? Also, once again his armor was practically destroyed.
Plus, he took it off because he has been wearing it for like 5 years. I am sure the guy has to take a massive crap.
> It isn’t really artistic license. Master Chief is using an outdated and frankly worn to Yoink! piece of technology. The human race has had 4 years of “peace” with the covenant to study theirs and forerunner technology. Look at the Infinity, that is the whole point of the damn ship.
>
> Are you honestly going to say they haven’t made a better suit of armor for their Spartans? Also, once again his armor was practically destroyed.
>
> Plus, he took it off because he has been wearing it for like 5 years. I am sure the guy has to take a massive crap.
Regardless of whether or not the UNSC has made better armor, the MC has been in cryo sleep on the FUD for the last 4 years. When would he have possibly changed into this new armor? The armor he’s wearing in Halo 4 is the same armor he was wearing in Halo 3. 343i just chose to make it look cooler.
> why would you fight a war with severely outdated gear?
But it’s the same armor, only changed…for some reason.
You kids make me laugh.
The armor still retains the basic shape and look of the Mark VI; however, it is a “new” set of armor due to the (limited) nanotechnology in his suit. The technology allows nano bots to slowly alter the physical and technological layout of the armor to upgrade it. This is mentioned in one of the Halo books, which honestly everyone should read since most of them are really well done.
Artistic freedom is one thing, I agree they should have it. But I think that it would of been cooler if his armor changed in halo 5, and in halo 4 they just shined his old armor to make it look more tankish and full
Nanobots… yeah Mk VI doesn’t have nanobots. Mk VII does but Mk VI does not, hence why there is no mention of it in the games or the books. Frankie mentions that nanobots did it, but apart from that one brief mention there is no other evidence for this. As far as I’m concerned its artistic license.
At the very least 343 should have kept proper original Mk VI armor in multiplayer. The Mk VI you get for completing Legendary isn’t the same, its very similar but apart from the helmet everything has been changed.
Just add it to the list of missing or disappointing things I guess.
> Master Chief was in the middle of a cyro sleep. Why and how did his armor change? It really didn’t make much sense at all and I could of seen them changing it in Halo 5, when he;s back with the UNSC.
If you played the game, Cortana says she made improvements with her new knowledge from the forerunners.
> Nanobots… yeah Mk VI doesn’t have nanobots. Mk VII does but Mk VI does not, hence why there is no mention of it in the games or the books. Frankie mentions that nanobots did it, but apart from that one brief mention there is no other evidence for this. As far as I’m concerned its artistic license.
>
> At the very least 343 should have kept proper original Mk VI armor in multiplayer. The Mk VI you get for completing Legendary isn’t the same, its very similar but apart from the helmet everything has been changed.
>
> Just add it to the list of missing or disappointing things I guess.
The Mark VI has nanobots. It has limited technology. The Mark VII takes this technology to another level from the data gathered from the Mark VI. It is stated in the book, Halo: Grasslands, I believe.
> > Nanobots… yeah Mk VI doesn’t have nanobots. Mk VII does but Mk VI does not, hence why there is no mention of it in the games or the books. Frankie mentions that nanobots did it, but apart from that one brief mention there is no other evidence for this. As far as I’m concerned its artistic license.
> >
> > At the very least 343 should have kept proper original Mk VI armor in multiplayer. The Mk VI you get for completing Legendary isn’t the same, its very similar but apart from the helmet everything has been changed.
> >
> > Just add it to the list of missing or disappointing things I guess.
>
> The Mark VI has nanobots. It has limited technology. The Mark VII takes this technology to another level from the data gathered from the Mark VI. It is stated in the book, Halo: Grasslands, I believe.
Got any proof that Mk VI has nanobots? Glasslands doesn’t state anything of the sort.
> > Master Chief was in the middle of a cyro sleep. Why and how did his armor change? It really didn’t make much sense at all and I could of seen them changing it in Halo 5, when he;s back with the UNSC.
>
> If you played the game, Cortana says she made improvements with her new knowledge from the forerunners.
All she says is she improved his firmware, (explaining the change in the HUD and the MC’s ability to use AA’s). That doesn’t explain the change in his armor. It’s simply artistic license.
> > Nanobots… yeah Mk VI doesn’t have nanobots. Mk VII does but Mk VI does not, hence why there is no mention of it in the games or the books. Frankie mentions that nanobots did it, but apart from that one brief mention there is no other evidence for this. As far as I’m concerned its artistic license.
> >
> > At the very least 343 should have kept proper original Mk VI armor in multiplayer. The Mk VI you get for completing Legendary isn’t the same, its very similar but apart from the helmet everything has been changed.
> >
> > Just add it to the list of missing or disappointing things I guess.
>
> The Mark VI has nanobots. It has limited technology. The Mark VII takes this technology to another level from the data gathered from the Mark VI. It is stated in the book, Halo: Grasslands, I believe.
Mark VI doesn’t have nanobots.
Sorry for the typo, yes Glasslands. Also, to further talk about the references of the Mark VII in Glasslands, 343i made a reference about this somewhere since they knew fans were upset about the graphical change.
It was said that since it is the 26th century their nano technology would be a lot further advanced than ours. I can’t remember the exact quote, but it was heavily implying that the Mark VI would have had limited nano capabilities which allowed for the graphical update.
Regardless, it boils down to 343i changed it, it is there license now, and they can make whatever they want canon. They could come back tomorrow and say Master Chief loves tacos and ballroom dancing and that would be that.