The UNSC is currently into the fourth generation of the Spartan Program. The Spartan-IV Program is different from past iterations, as its members are the best soldiers from the other branches invited to join of their free will. People are wondering when the UNSC will develop the Spartan-V Program. However, there probably won’t be a Spartan-V Program. They’ve finally made a Spartan Program that’s quite efficient that won’t really need to be re-iterated. Could it be possible they do it down the line, absolutely, though I think the UNSC has finally found their needle in the haystack.
Spartan-V, if I had to guess, would be a further refinement of S-IV, and therefor wouldn’t receive its own title.
UNLESS the UNSC unlocks Forerunner gene-tech, in which case there would probably be a S-V program.
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> Spartan-V, if I had to guess, would be a further refinement of S-IV, and therefor wouldn’t receive its own title.
> UNLESS the UNSC unlocks Forerunner gene-tech, in which case there would probably be a S-V program.
I agree that would be the only way Vs would be a thing.
Indeed. It seems like the 4s are just about perfect as far as logistics and technology is concerned. I think any further would be pointless. I do agree with the above, though. It’d be interesting to see UNSC or the Covenant species unlock the Forerunner gene manipulation technology. Chaos would ensue, I feel!
No disrespect, but isn’t it a bit short sighted to imagine they won’t achieve any greater tech than they currently have? Forerunner enhancements of some kind are the obvious next step, but there’s a whole universe out there. If they want the story to continue to evolve, the tech is the easiest route to that.
There’s also the fact that Cortana (or whatever fragment found itself into the Domain and was ‘fixed’) has just placed the entire galaxy under lockdown through Imperial Peace. So yeah, be hard pressed for them to do anything while that is still happening.
Unless they were to completely end this version of Spartan-IVs, I don’t really see how an S-V project would come about, or be different enough to warrant being classed as a new generation.
More likely they would just make changes within the S-IV program - change out the augmentation protocols, switch out equipment over time etc etc. Think like updating or adding expansions to a game instead of just releasing a new one.
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> No disrespect, but isn’t it a bit short sighted to imagine they won’t achieve any greater tech than they currently have? Forerunner enhancements of some kind are the obvious next step, but there’s a whole universe out there. If they want the story to continue to evolve, the tech is the easiest route to that.
And then the community rages about how the new tecnology does not look exactly the same as the old tech, like a bunch of nostalgic old man
I assume that Spartan-IV is the last augmentation of this caliber – because it seems like the next step with what’s being done here is to apply these augmentations to the species as a whole. The next project would not be called “Spartan,” because it wouldn’t be about making warriors. It would be about making the UEG’s citizens healthier and hardier.
That said, Spartan-V would exist after that. Because the next step once you’ve elevated an entire species’s biological profile is to say “what if we made some of our soldiers extra-EXTRA super?” So the Spartan-V program would probably have a lot in common with the Spartan-II program, in that regard. Highly experimental, pushing beyond the known limits.
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> I assume that Spartan-IV is the last augmentation of this caliber – because it seems like the next step with what’s being done here is to apply these augmentations to the species as a whole. The next project would not be called “Spartan,” because it wouldn’t be about making warriors. It would be about making the UEG’s citizens healthier and hardier.
Yeah I think the next step is following the forerunner example of giving every member of the species a super suit that they just live in. It would take a long time to jump from only Spartan IV’s to billions of humans but it could be gradual. The only problem is that humans may then become lazy slobs or out of shape, relying on the armour to do the work, since we don’t mutate like the forerunners did and so something would need to fix this problem or people wouldn’t use the “easy suits” 100% of the time / all humans would become useless without their suits over generations.
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> I assume that Spartan-IV is the last augmentation of this caliber – because it seems like the next step with what’s being done here is to apply these augmentations to the species as a whole. The next project would not be called “Spartan,” because it wouldn’t be about making warriors. It would be about making the UEG’s citizens healthier and hardier.
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> That said, Spartan-V would exist after that. Because the next step once you’ve elevated an entire species’s biological profile is to say “what if we made some of our soldiers extra-EXTRA super?” So the Spartan-V program would probably have a lot in common with the Spartan-II program, in that regard. Highly experimental, pushing beyond the known limits.
Respectfully disagree there mate. No way the state rolls out cutting edge military grade physical enhancements to civilians en masse. There will definitely be some drip down of tech into healthcare, but as you point out, the state will always want to maintain the edge. Not to mention the marginal cost considerations of tech adoption - by the time something is cheap enough for mass rollout, it’s no longer the cutting edge.
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> Yeah I think the next step is following the forerunner example of giving every member of the species a super suit that they just live in. It would take a long time to jump from only Spartan IV’s to billions of humans but it could be gradual. The only problem is that humans may then become lazy slobs or out of shape, relying on the armour to do the work, since we don’t mutate like the forerunners did and so something would need to fix this problem or people wouldn’t use the “easy suits” 100% of the time / all humans would become useless without their suits over generations.
First of all, the Forerunners almost certainly didn’t mutate the way they did by nature – that was probably an augmentation they created for themselves.
Second, I don’t think the hypothetical general public augmentation would be the same as S5, and obviously I don’t think it would include power armour. The focus would be physical wellness and mental acuity. Super strength wouldn’t even be a guarantee – though you could argue that it could improve lifespans to have the ability to, say, lift a burning car off of someone in distress.
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> Respectfully disagree there mate. No way the state rolls out cutting edge military grade physical enhancements to civilians en masse. There will definitely be some drip down of tech into healthcare, but as you point out, the state will always want to maintain the edge. Not to mention the marginal cost considerations of tech adoption - by the time something is cheap enough for mass rollout, it’s no longer the cutting edge.
I’m not convinced that a lot of the S5 process would be considered cutting edge after a decade or two – and that’s the timeframe I’m looking at, here. S2 was 2510s, S3 was 2530s, S4 was 2550s. Stands to reason the next program wouldn’t be until 2570s, maybe later. In that time, these augmentations should become trivial to apply to the masses. And as said, I don’t necessarily believe (or disbelieve) that the augmentations would include physical strength and speed – but it seems like everything else would be of huge benefit to the species at large.
What if they go another direction and make something diferent, like a group with sub titles “spartan bla bla”. Also, i agree if the unsc gets upgraded teck or new methods, a V variation could arise.
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> No disrespect, but isn’t it a bit short sighted to imagine they won’t achieve any greater tech than they currently have? Forerunner enhancements of some kind are the obvious next step, but there’s a whole universe out there. If they want the story to continue to evolve, the tech is the easiest route to that.
There’s also the ancient Humanity Tech found by ONI so I have to agree that not having a Spartan V program would be short minded. Nice thought though and nice topic starter.
I honestly feel that any improvements in terms of augmentation, technology or what have you would probably end up filtering down into the general population, not a new Spartan program. We’ve already seen things like gel layers popularized by MJOLNIR used by miners on Meridian. While I don’t see civilian grade armor happening anytime soon, perhaps smaller augmentions can become as common as a flu shot.
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> No disrespect, but isn’t it a bit short sighted to imagine they won’t achieve any greater tech than they currently have? Forerunner enhancements of some kind are the obvious next step, but there’s a whole universe out there. If they want the story to continue to evolve, the tech is the easiest route to that.
That’s what I was thinking. I agree.
For another Spartan program to be created, something sizable would need to occur for that to happen. Each program currently operating has rather noticeable differences. There isn’t going to be a new program because armor might be upgraded at some point; it’ll just be implemented on the current Spartans. The Spartan programs aren’t tied to whatever MJOLNIR generation is being made.
Unless we’re talking Forerunner-esque mutations, I don’t see a reason for another program.
Yep, there’ll always be trickle down, and commercialisation of lower grade products. But regardless what the programme is called, or how it requires soldiers to integrate with tech, there will always be a progressive military-grade that the general populace doesn’t get access to.
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> > Spartan-V, if I had to guess, would be a further refinement of S-IV, and therefor wouldn’t receive its own title.
> > UNLESS the UNSC unlocks Forerunner gene-tech, in which case there would probably be a S-V program.
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> I agree that would be the only way Vs would be a thing.
I could see S-V as a branch like the early branches were top secret with recruitment from the S-II - S-IV programs.
As to the gene tech IDK where they are going there I feel like they had plans to do more with the didact and librarian then it was just dropped. We could see more of that picked up… But I’m not 100% sure what the point would be. Isn’t the composer destroyed? I guess it would not be in cortana’s possession but still… Broken right?