There is a huge demand for Halo 5

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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Sorry for being Captain Obvious but I just wanted to point this out in case anyone thought otherwise.

This chart shows that Halo 5, as of the first of August, is the third highest pre-ordered game in the U.S. The only two games to beat it are just Black Ops 3 on the PS4 and Xbox One, so really the only game that’s beating Halo 5 in pre-orders is Call of Duty. That says a lot when you see some of the games of 2015 - Metal Gear Solid V, Fallout 4, Star Wars Battlefront, Uncharted 4, The Division.

So despite all of Halo’s recent missteps with Halo 4 and MCC, the series is still going strong and people are putting their money down on it. People want Halo 5, there’s really no way around that fact.

As an extra note, MCC was the third most popular shooter on Xbox One until Metal Gear Solid V and Gears of War came out. It managed to stay within the top 10 most popular Xbox One games even almost a whole year after its disastrous launch.

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Halo 5 will hopefully suppress cod by release. It probably will especially after cods beta. I heard nothing but hard complaints about that game and i for one hated that beta. I know lots of people who canceled their pre order for that game. I for one did.

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Woah, I actually did not expect that, considering the enormous hype for Battlefront and Fallout 4!

Well done so far, 343I and marketing team, I am serious.

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I don’t wanna be a Buzzkiller, but on the 4th august 2012 Halo 4 was the most pre-ordered game with almost double pre-orders than Guardians. Probably the MCC launch discouraged pre-orders. Also remember that Vgchartz isn’t always as accurate as it seems.

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Also I would point out that Black ops 3 for xbox one has the most pre-orders. This means that 1) exclusives playstation deals and early access count nothing and 2) that BO 3 will be an huge competitor in terms of online population with Halo 5 guardians, from the moment that will be released 10 days later Halo 5. Sorry, but this is had to be said

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> I don’t wanna be a Buzzkiller, but on the 4th august 2012 Halo 4 was the most pre-ordered game with almost double pre-orders than Guardians. Probably the MCC launch discouraged pre-orders. Also remember that Vgchartz isn’t always as accurate as it seems.

To be fair, at the time of Halo 4 release there were around 70+ million Xbox 360’s around (minus the RoDboxes) while currently there are 10 million (ish) XBones around. (It’s kinda hard to tell because Microsoft is no longer posting the numbers of units sold but units shipped, which also includes those that are catching dust in some storage room. They’ve been doing this ever since Vista in order to hide botched products.)

Still, there are more people preordering H5G than I would’ve thought. I knew it’d be lower than BlOps3, but I’ve expected it to be overshadowed by Fallout and MGS as well.

Nevertheless, preorders only mark the part of the fanbase that is already sure to buy the game. The undecided portion, those that need yet to be swayed by Day-1-functionality and reviews are still missing.

EDIT: Oh, by the way… It IS overshadowed by Fallout 4 and Metal Gear Solid. It’s just that those games have their preorders split over multiple systems. So my prognosis was correct. I was really scared there fore a second…

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What FPS Halo game hasn’t been in huge demand. The Brand Name still sales well, as usual. This is the main Chief series we’re following too; you make it sound as if this is something new. This doesn’t make Halo 5 look better if that’s what you were going for, because I personally wouldn’t even care if it was lower on list.

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> What FPS Halo game hasn’t been in huge demand. The Brand Name still sales well, as usual. This is the main Chief series we’re following too; you make it sound as if this is something new. This doesn’t make Halo 5 look better if that’s what you were going for, because I personally wouldn’t even care if it was lower on list.

All I ever said was that there is a huge demand for Halo 5 despite the series’ recent mishaps.

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> > EDIT: Oh, by the way… It IS overshadowed by Fallout 4 and Metal Gear Solid. It’s just that those games have their preorders split over multiple systems. So my prognosis was correct. I was really scared there fore a second…

Fallout 4 barely beats it and it’s available on 3 different platforms. MGSV is available on 5 different platforms. Halo 5 is holding its ground on just one platform, if it was available on the PS4 like the rest of it’s competitors on that list then it’s total would be significantly larger.

Just something to keep in mind. Everyone and their dog can play MGSV whereas the only way to play Halo 5 is on Xbox One.

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> > What FPS Halo game hasn’t been in huge demand. The Brand Name still sales well, as usual. This is the main Chief series we’re following too; you make it sound as if this is something new. This doesn’t make Halo 5 look better if that’s what you were going for, because I personally wouldn’t even care if it was lower on list.
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> All I ever said was that there is a huge demand for Halo 5 despite the series’ recent mishaps.

Of course that’s all you said, it’s a Captain obvious sort of thing. It’s doing well on Pre Orders, Jazz hands -.-

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> Sorry for being Captain Obvious but I just wanted to point this out in case anyone thought otherwise.
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> This chart shows that Halo 5, as of the first of August, is the third highest pre-ordered game in the U.S. The only two games to beat it are just Black Ops 3 on the PS4 and Xbox One, so really the only game that’s beating Halo 5 in pre-orders is Call of Duty. That says a lot when you see some of the games of 2015 - Metal Gear Solid V, Fallout 4, Star Wars Battlefront, Uncharted 4, The Division.
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> So despite all of Halo’s recent missteps with Halo 4 and MCC, the series is still going strong and people are putting their money down on it. People want Halo 5, there’s really no way around that fact.
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> As an extra note, MCC was the third most popular shooter on Xbox One until Metal Gear Solid V and Gears of War came out. It managed to stay within the top 10 most popular Xbox One games even almost a whole year after its disastrous launch.

Zoom - If you don’t work for 343 (or some other party of interest), you are a needle in a haystack, my friend.

  1. Yes. Halo’s kind of a big deal.

  2. Of course it’s toward the top of the list in pre-orders…it’s a big name series and it’s release date is almost here…meaning there’s been at least a year when pre-orders were being taken…any game that launches before Oct. 27 will fall off the list before Halo does…if any of those games ranked higher, they don’t once they launch. Did you expect Halo pre-orders to be drastically lower than normal? It’s a BIG series…it takes multiple big time -Yoink- ups to take a beast like Halo down. 343 has 2 under their belt, but it’ll take another one or two to do the trick.

  3. Imagine where a full H2A game (that actually worked) with it’s own full MP suite would be on that list. Halo would be number 1 or 2 without question. Backward compatibility is coming soon…and it’ll cover Halo 3 and Halo 4. BC’s upcoming implementation was not something 343 was unaware of when they chose MCC over full-blown H2A. Why did they choose to make a Halo sams club sampler that was supposedly so much more difficult over just a solid remake of both the campaign AND the multiplayer if they knew half the games were coming to Xbox One sooner than later anyway? Why would they even consider such an obviously stupid decision, Zoom?

  4. Lastly - Awesome thread. Halo is definitely popular.

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> > Sorry for being Captain Obvious but I just wanted to point this out in case anyone thought otherwise.
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> > This chart shows that Halo 5, as of the first of August, is the third highest pre-ordered game in the U.S. The only two games to beat it are just Black Ops 3 on the PS4 and Xbox One, so really the only game that’s beating Halo 5 in pre-orders is Call of Duty. That says a lot when you see some of the games of 2015 - Metal Gear Solid V, Fallout 4, Star Wars Battlefront, Uncharted 4, The Division.
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> > So despite all of Halo’s recent missteps with Halo 4 and MCC, the series is still going strong and people are putting their money down on it. People want Halo 5, there’s really no way around that fact.
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> > As an extra note, MCC was the third most popular shooter on Xbox One until Metal Gear Solid V and Gears of War came out. It managed to stay within the top 10 most popular Xbox One games even almost a whole year after its disastrous launch.
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> Zoom - If you don’t work for 343 (or some other party of interest), you are a needle in a haystack, my friend.
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> 1. Yes. Halo’s kind of a big deal.
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> 2. Of course it’s toward the top of the list in pre-orders…it’s a big name series and it’s release date is almost here…meaning there’s been at least a year when pre-orders were being taken…any game that launches before Oct. 27 will fall off the list before Halo does…if any of those games ranked higher, they don’t once they launch. Did you expect Halo pre-orders to be drastically lower than normal? It’s a BIG series…it takes multiple big time -Yoink- ups to take a beast like Halo down. 343 has 2 under their belt, but it’ll take another one or two to do the trick.
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> 3. Imagine where a full H2A game (that actually worked) with it’s own full MP suite would be on that list. Halo would be number 1 or 2 without question. Backward compatibility is coming soon…and it’ll cover Halo 3 and Halo 4. BC’s upcoming implementation was not something 343 was unaware of when they chose MCC over full-blown H2A. Why did they choose to make a Halo sams club sampler that was supposedly so much more difficult over just a solid remake of both the campaign AND the multiplayer if they knew half the games were coming to Xbox One sooner than later anyway? Why would they even consider such an obviously stupid decision, Zoom?
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> 4. Lastly - Awesome thread. Halo is definitely popular.

I wish I could be working for 343! If I could get paid while making these forums a weird sort of video game diary for myself then I would be extremely happy lol

I’m only going to address #3 right now because it popped out at me right away. How can you really say that for sure? I mean we have H2A and yes, I know, it’s not the same as what you’re saying but it’s the closest that we have to that and it’s not even the most popular playlist in MCC. If I had to guess why they did the collection as opposed to a full multiplayer remake of Halo 2, I would say that they wanted to get all the Halo games in one place and in one big fancy UI. To get people all caught up with the franchise and ready to go for Halo 5. They knew that Halo 5 was going to be a big change for the series and they wanted to give people all of the old Halo games with their Campaigns and Multiplayers intact so that they always could have a familiar place to call home if you didn’t like where Halo 5 was going.

Basically, 343 was making it so you had no excuse to not buy an Xbox One if you were a Halo fan. Obviously things didn’t go as planned at launch but MCC still serves as the definitive Halo game to own whether you’re a long time fan or brand new to the series. They still managed to completely remaster the Halo 2 campaign and a few of the multiplayer maps. Halo: CE online and Halo 2 multiplayer were completely revived with this collection.

Development of this collection must have started a long time ago and who knows if backwards compatibility was even on the table back when this game was being made? I’m not claiming that to be a fact but there are a lot of things to consider. 4 games with Multiplayer and Campaigns intact was an obvious choice over focusing solely on Halo 2. All we would have gotten was extra H2A maps. I don’t know about you but I’d rather have all 4 games remastered in 1080p/60fps in the same menu and for the price of one game instead of 1 remastered game with all the maps that people would rather play in Classic mode anyway.

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Zoom, you have to be lying. I’ve read all over the forums and YouTube that Halo is dying, so it must be. I mean, people wouldn’t just say that if it wasn’t true. Obviously they have something to back it up, they’re just hesitant to post it because they don’t want to burst everyone’s bubble with their mind-shattering evidence of Halo’s demise.

Sarcastic post is sarcastic.

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> Sorry for being Captain Obvious but I just wanted to point this out in case anyone thought otherwise.
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> This chart shows that Halo 5, as of the first of August, is the third highest pre-ordered game in the U.S. The only two games to beat it are just Black Ops 3 on the PS4 and Xbox One, so really the only game that’s beating Halo 5 in pre-orders is Call of Duty. That says a lot when you see some of the games of 2015 - Metal Gear Solid V, Fallout 4, Star Wars Battlefront, Uncharted 4, The Division.
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> So despite all of Halo’s recent missteps with Halo 4 and MCC, the series is still going strong and people are putting their money down on it. People want Halo 5, there’s really no way around that fact.
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> As an extra note, MCC was the third most popular shooter on Xbox One until Metal Gear Solid V and Gears of War came out. It managed to stay within the top 10 most popular Xbox One games even almost a whole year after its disastrous launch.

Pre-orders don’t mean the same as play-time. Wait till the game releases to see if the population stays strong. Halo 4 started ok when it launched but then it plummeted not long after. I’m not surprised by CoD but I do hate it.

It might have to do with the free maps they were talking about, the recent H5 intro trailer but things like removing split-screen, the pretty bad beta might put a lot of people off.

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> Zoom, you have to be lying. I’ve read all over the forums and YouTube that Halo is dying, so it must be. I mean, people wouldn’t just say that if it wasn’t true. Obviously they have something to back it up, they’re just hesitant to post it because they don’t want to burst everyone’s bubble with their mind-shattering evidence of Halo’s demise.
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Lmao

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> > Sorry for being Captain Obvious but I just wanted to point this out in case anyone thought otherwise.
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> > This chart shows that Halo 5, as of the first of August, is the third highest pre-ordered game in the U.S. The only two games to beat it are just Black Ops 3 on the PS4 and Xbox One, so really the only game that’s beating Halo 5 in pre-orders is Call of Duty. That says a lot when you see some of the games of 2015 - Metal Gear Solid V, Fallout 4, Star Wars Battlefront, Uncharted 4, The Division.
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> > So despite all of Halo’s recent missteps with Halo 4 and MCC, the series is still going strong and people are putting their money down on it. People want Halo 5, there’s really no way around that fact.
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> > As an extra note, MCC was the third most popular shooter on Xbox One until Metal Gear Solid V and Gears of War came out. It managed to stay within the top 10 most popular Xbox One games even almost a whole year after its disastrous launch.
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> Pre-orders don’t mean the same as play-time. Wait till the game releases to see if the population stays strong. Halo 4 started ok when it launched but then it plummeted not long after. I’m not surprised by CoD but I do hate it.
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> It might have to do with the free maps they were talking about, the recent H5 intro trailer but things like removing split-screen, the pretty bad beta might put a lot of people off.

You’re still going off about the beta being bad? Remember in that thread a few weeks ago where reaction was generally positive?

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> Fallout 4 barely beats it and it’s available on 3 different platforms. MGSV is available on 5 different platforms. Halo 5 is holding its ground on just one platform, if it was available on the PS4 like the rest of it’s competitors on that list then it’s total would be significantly larger.

Or maybe Halo 5’s fanbase would be equally as fractured.
Hypothetical assumption is hypothetical.

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> Just something to keep in mind. Everyone and their dog can play MGSV whereas the only way to play Halo 5 is on Xbox One.

Just something to keep in mind: From the perspective of that chart, H5G is available to preorder for almost two years. Fallout 4 is available for preorder ever since E3, which is three months. Let’s just give it some more weeks at this growth…

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> Halo 5 will hopefully suppress cod by release. It probably will especially after cods beta. I heard nothing but hard complaints about that game and i for one hated that beta. I know lots of people who canceled their pre order for that game. I for one did.

I wish. All my friends are saying it’s awesome and seem more excited about it than Halo 5. These are the friends I play MCC with. I didn’t even play the beta and told all my friends that my xbox won’t touch a CoD.

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> > Fallout 4 barely beats it and it’s available on 3 different platforms. MGSV is available on 5 different platforms. Halo 5 is holding its ground on just one platform, if it was available on the PS4 like the rest of it’s competitors on that list then it’s total would be significantly larger.
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> > Just something to keep in mind. Everyone and their dog can play MGSV whereas the only way to play Halo 5 is on Xbox One.
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> Just something to keep in mind: From the perspective of that chart, H5G is available to preorder for almost two years. Fallout 4 is available for preorder ever since E3, which is three months. Let’s just give it some more weeks at this growth…

We are comparing games that are available on 3 platforms or more to a game that’s only available on one. There’s no doubt that Halo 5 would sell more copies if it was available on PS4.

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> I wish I could be working for 343! If I could get paid while making these forums a weird sort of video game diary for myself then I would be extremely happy lol
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> I’m only going to address #3 right now because it popped out at me right away. How can you really say that for sure? I mean we have H2A and yes, I know, it’s not the same as what you’re saying but it’s the closest that we have to that and it’s not even the most popular playlist in MCC. If I had to guess why they did the collection as opposed to a full multiplayer remake of Halo 2, I would say that they wanted to get all the Halo games in one place and in one big fancy UI. To get people all caught up with the franchise and ready to go for Halo 5. They knew that Halo 5 was going to be a big change for the series and they wanted to give people all of the old Halo games with their Campaigns and Multiplayers intact so that they always could have a familiar place to call home if you didn’t like where Halo 5 was going.
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> Basically, 343 was making it so you had no excuse to not buy an Xbox One if you were a Halo fan. Obviously things didn’t go as planned at launch but MCC still serves as the definitive Halo game to own whether you’re a long time fan or brand new to the series. They still managed to completely remaster the Halo 2 campaign and a few of the multiplayer maps. Halo: CE online and Halo 2 multiplayer were completely revived with this collection.
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> Development of this collection must have started a long time ago and who knows if backwards compatibility was even on the table back when this game was being made? I’m not claiming that to be a fact but there are a lot of things to consider. 4 games with Multiplayer and Campaigns intact was an obvious choice over focusing solely on Halo 2. All we would have gotten was extra H2A maps. I don’t know about you but I’d rather have all 4 games remastered in 1080p/60fps in the same menu and for the price of one game instead of 1 remastered game with all the maps that people would rather play in Classic mode anyway.

I would rather have a full H2A with both the campaign and the multiplayer running on the original engine.

MCC H2A multiplayer playlist popularity, first of all, is totally unknown (or at least unproven by the sorcerers of 343). You’ve seen a list without numbers, and a deliberate move to leave any/all population counts in the MCC absent from day one. But, assuming that one random list we got from hogwarts was accurate, does H2A’s alleged low rank really surprise you??? There are many Halo 2 fans who dislike to pure hate H2A multiplayer, and for a variety of reasons.

Let’s start with the fact that it’s not running on H2’s engine, and that fact is instantly notice to anyone who was at least a little familiar with the original beforehand. How about 343 doing their usual and deciding to nerf the plasma pistol (just went boink-city all over that pistol), sword (finite energy - yoinks), snipers (unable to hold more than 16 rounds/snipers - yoooinked). The characteristics of those three weapons were specific to H2, and played a significant role in shaping how the game was played.

Next, 343’s just couldn’t refrain from putting those stupid yoinkedy grenade indicators in there. I’ll wrap up with pointing out that the MCC also offers the ability to play a guardian-approved, handicap-parking, original Halo 2. So, for those who don’t like Halo 4 feat. H2 kinda (that’s H2A), they might go visit the original H2 at the hospital (that’s the playlists) where it’s slowly recovering…kinda.

How many playlists is H2A offered in? Lots and lots. Hell, it has 2 of it’s own without even having enough maps to justify its existence (shame on 343 for not putting Forged maps in there bc that’s their -Yoinking!- job and unsurprisingly they chose against even say they might try to do it one day. How many H2A maps are there? Very few. 7 to be exact. There’s more than 4 H2A maps in any of the playlist where it can be found except for it’s primary playlist which managed to get 6 maps technically, 5.5 really though because Remnant and Team Slayer are apparently taboo or 343 just doesn’t care get on this either.

Once H2 fans realize they can’t play any Halo 2 game that both runs on its own engine AND functions properly, which playlist do you think they’ll spend time in (if they didn’t just craigslist the yoinknation out of their console and MCC like three of my friends have now done)? Hint: It’s not going to be H2A. When you realize HCE is an even bigger joke of an imposter to its original (and understand that H4 is generally perceived as coming from a different game franchise altogether), it really is no wonder why H3 reigns supreme in every playlist its featured, and if it weren’t in so many playlists, might even own the top slot over BTB.

Now, are we really going to sit here and say this H4-hybrid slash clone of an excuse of a H2A multiplayer is worthy of its own title? Are we seriously going to act as though the popularity of FrankenHalostein4…butKinda2too Anniversary (celebrating who/what, pretty sure no one knows) offers us any insight on how popular a FULL remake of H2, done with the intent to actually do some good work on MULTIPLAYER too? Really? No, we’re not. We’re all able to think well enough for ourselves to know that which is obvious.

You’re right, Zoom. The MCC was to persuade everyone and their imaginary XBL friend to purchase an Xbox One. Perhaps they actually did want people to get caught up on the story, I’m sure they realized it would only help in this regard, and that’d carry over to Halo 5 hypothetically so yeah you’re prob right there too. None of this bothers me. What bothers me is that BC was coming, there’s no way they didn’t know it (that’s not something done in a year or two…that emulator will require continuous tweaks until the system is the equivalent of an Atari or forgotten altogether). What bothers me is that they used money to make documentaries about a game that was missing half the main event, Halo 2 Anniversary Multiplayer. The other half was accounted for an AWESOME! Excellent job on all work done in house and well done with your choices on whatever was outsourced. You just didn’t do a job with the multiplayer. You just sold us games you didn’t make, poorly or brutally failed to have ported, and tweaked Halo 4 and called it Halo2A…then acted like you did something for us.

How about you fully remake Halo 3, try to do it all the way and do it right, and enjoy the benefits of getting a win under your belt before you try to tell us your ambitiously pumping out fan-service and innovating your income by marketing and selling Halo out to the world from lunch boxes to toy Needlers. Finish a fight before you enter another. Christ…the fact that corporations have fans is hard to believe…the fact that you have defenders for what is so incredibly in everyones faces is worth another “Good Job”. You don’t fool me but damn you’re doing a number on a lot of people. Credit where it’s due. Karma wonder when it’s due.

Hey Zoom - Sorry, that was a tangent…I think you’ll know when I start talking to anyone in general rather than you though. Oh, and I’d ask around bout employment with your boys/girls at 343. They’re expanding the reach of the Halo brand every day it seems. The further they extend, the easier for you to find a way to fall on in.

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Didn’t read many of the post past the OP, but even though Halo 5 is the most pre-ordered game in the U.S. does not mean it is the most anticipated game of the year. It also doesn’t mean those numbers will actually translate into sales. My reason? Halo 5 has been available for pre-order longer then any game that has a release date this year. People were able to place pre-orders on Halo 5 before the Master Chief Collection was released. If I remember correctly the pre-order went up right after E3 2014 ended.

With Halo 5 having far more time to gain those numbers means sure it is going to have a better chance to have larger pre-order numbers then any other title coming this year. Now I’m not saying I’m not excited for the game; I am very much I pre-ordered the Limited Collectors Edition the day it was announced. What I am saying is that Halo 5 might not actually be the most anticipated game of 2015.

As a side note even though there are a large amount of people who are extremely vocal about their dislike for what Halo is turning into does not mean these people are the only ones out there. Most people who are happy with a product won’t go out of their way to say how good said product is, but the ones who are the most dissatisfied with it will shout as loud as they can so others do not experience this.