With the announcement of no forge or Co-Op at launch, y’all have to launch with a lot of MP content to keep people satisfied. I don’t mind the delays for these 2, since you can’t rush a delicious dish, but you’re gonna need to have a lot of dishes to serve to the players before these drop. You cannot launch Infinite in the same state as 5.
the multiplayer will be free, man.
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> the multiplayer will be free, man.
and? Anything can be free, that doesn’t guarantee it’ll have a lot to it. It has to have a lot to it or else it’ll hurt itself.
There will be something like 7 MP maps and 4 BtB maps I don’t have a source and thats pure speculation on my part with no news leaks or facts surrounding it
If they keep moving forward for a 2021 release this is going to be H5 all over again
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> the multiplayer will be free, man.
Free doesn’t excuse criticism and I certainly would have paid for the multiplayer so your point is bizarre. Not every game needs to be milked like Fornite with the same lazy rehashed BR map.
It will launch with a minimal amount of content. Which is fine. For one, it’s free. And two, in h5 they trickled out content and looking back it was a great move. It gave us something to constantly be looking forward to. Enjoy the ride, play what’s available and be excited for what’s upcoming.
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> It will launch with a minimal amount of content. Which is fine.
Its not fine, for a lot of different reasons the health of the franchise and the long term population of the game being two very large ones
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> It will launch with a minimal amount of content. Which is fine. For one, it’s free. And two, in h5 they trickled out content and looking back it was a great move. It gave us something to constantly be looking forward to. Enjoy the ride, play what’s available and be excited for what’s upcoming.
Just no. Making it free is not a good excuse for lack of content. Many of us paid for Xbox Live before F2P became free to play on Xbox and that only happened recently so in a way it was never going to be free on consoles and many of us were willing to pay for the multiplayer and are tolerating this annoying ‘live service’ model despite the fact that live service games tend to have predatory systems in place. I still remember Halo 5’s lack of content at launch and I still remember how annoyed that 343i added loot box’s and still had no AAA BTB maps and how it had the worst forge in the series. Halo 5 made it hard for me to trust 343i and I really hope 343i make changes that respect the fans with Infinite and I’m deeply concerned that history will repeat itself.
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> It will launch with a minimal amount of content. Which is fine. For one, it’s free. And two, in h5 they trickled out content and looking back it was a great move. It gave us something to constantly be looking forward to. Enjoy the ride, play what’s available and be excited for what’s upcoming.
No, Halo 5s idea of “free content” was a straight up lie. The games updates were simply finishing the game, so of course they better be free. Trickling out the finishing pieces to a game is rediculous, especially if it was planned to be that way.
Halo 5 didn’t even have infection until more then 7 months after launch…
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> the multiplayer will be free, man.
Much constructive comment.
OP has a point, and the MP being free kinda makes this more important. I’ve already seen fans questioning the TBA price tag because of this, and now with core features missing, it’s going to be quite a turbulent launch.
343 need to make sure that what they do have working in the game, it needs to be perfect, and a lot of it.
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> > It will launch with a minimal amount of content. Which is fine. For one, it’s free. And two, in h5 they trickled out content and looking back it was a great move. It gave us something to constantly be looking forward to. Enjoy the ride, play what’s available and be excited for what’s upcoming.
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> Just no. Making it free is not a good excuse for lack of content. Many of us paid for Xbox Live before F2P became free to play on Xbox and that only happened recently so in a way it was never going to be free on consoles and many of us were willing to pay for the multiplayer and are tolerating this annoying ‘live service’ model despite the fact that live service games tend to have predatory systems in place. I still remember Halo 5’s lack of content at launch and I still remember how annoyed that 343i added loot box’s and still had no AAA BTB maps and how it had the worst forge in the series. Halo 5 made it hard for me to trust 343i and I really hope 343i make changes that respect the fans with Infinite and I’m deeply concerned that history will repeat itself.
Halo 5 had the best forge in the series. I understand your frustrations with the delays but at least be honest. Halo 5’s forge took forge to a whole new level. It was worked and made with forgers needs and wants.
I’m saying launching with minimal content is okay, because it’s not. However, for people new to halo, forge will be a brand new experience. The only people who will hurt is the halo community.
Ya’ll expect too much from this company.
No co-op campaign and forge just kinda kills the vibe for me. What else isn’t finished? What other bombs will they drop in the next few months? Why not just…delay.
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> The only people who will hurt is the halo community.
As usual, for an extensive list of reasons and not just this one. Family Friendly, Featureless, being compared to Fortnite… Halo is taking a lot of big Fs once again, it’s embarrassing to be a fan of this franchise and to have ever attempted to provide feedback to 343.
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Being compared to fortnite, never heard that before and would completely ignore any argument that tries to do so. Featureless, because no co-op and no forge at launch? Maybe, but we don’t know yet for sure. Maybe there will be a large plethora of options when it comes to playlists. Custom games should still be a thing and with all the equipment, maybe it will hold us over until we get custom stuff from forge. I think you are jumping the gun a bit to much. I am disappointed in the delays but I don’t see anything else wrong. The core experience is looking to be the best since halo 3 which is the real reason people may stick to the game.
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I understand your frustrations
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> There will be something like 7 MP maps and 4 BtB maps I don’t have a source and thats pure speculation on my part with no news leaks or facts surrounding it
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> If they keep moving forward for a 2021 release this is going to be H5 all over again
Oh, jeez, I hope there are a few more maps than that at launch.
BTB is supposed to be a big fresh take on the mode, you’d think there would be at least 5 maps for it. I hope that with the delay of Forge, they are able to squeeze the a couple more launch maps out in time.
I think 9 4v4 and 5 BTB maps would be a good starting point. I can’t see them offering more that 2 free new maps per season, and with Forge delayed until mid-2022, they need to make sure fans don’t get burnt out on a small number of maps.
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> No co-op campaign and forge just kinda kills the vibe for me. What else isn’t finished? What other bombs will they drop in the next few months? Why not just…delay.
I do feel a little the same.
I watched a YouTuber (can’t recall which) who praised them for coming out early and being upfront. But in the back of my head I thought, maybe it’s because they want to spread out the bad news leading up to launch.
I think the execs are pushing for the 21 release, as they don’t want to delay the game again and have Halo become the new Cyberpunk. It’s likely that 343 will have to come out and delay more content as we get closer, as they get a clearer picture of what won’t be ready before launch. They would likely be smaller things like; campaign scoring and theatre, a niche game mode here or there, etc.
But there’s always the possibility that we get no more bad news. That would be nice, haha.
Completely agree. Forge is LITERALLY what keeps Halo alive after a certain amount of time.
So if they only launch the game with around 10 maps (let’s say 4 BTB and 6 for any arena style game modes) then multiplayer will die after about 3 months.
I agree with OP. If they’re going to basically only have solo campaign and MP on day one (no forge, customs, co-op, or firefight), they need to kill the MP aspect, ironically enough being free. They should just delay campaign. Forge can wait.
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if the multiplayer was bare bones basic gametypes and like 6 maps.