Theory: Enemies in Halo 4 (spoiler)

I’m sure there’s probably more of these threads elsewhere, but they’re buried in a sea of other threads and I can’t find them…

Anyway, I have recently been reading some of the Halo books (don’t want to be specific if you haven’t read them) and I have strong reason to believe:

That we will be landing on an Ancient Forerunner Shield World constructed at least a thousand years before the Halo rings were constructed, ordered by the original Didact who believed the Halo rings were against what the Mantle stood for.

What these Shield Worlds can contain may be Warrior Class Forerunners stationed there by order of Didact, or a range of species collected by the Librarian (Didact’s Wife), a Lifeworker who opposed the rings use and kept the species there to protect them from the firing of the Halo rings.

I’m leaning towards the Warrior Class Forerunners (although said extinct) as the Shield World’s coordinates were hidden from the Master Builder at the time from the original Didact. If these Worlds were inhabited, their occupants would have never been informed to leave these worlds and be subject to the Halo array firing. Forerunner were once an enemy of humans.

I’m still reading the other books… but it seems almost too fitting for this not to be true.

Even though I agree, but im still leaning more towards Precursors (we are screwed) But, then again who knows…im only guessing precursor after reading Cryptum and Primordorium. (i know i spelt that wrong)

You could be right, but there’s no telling who else has been sucked into this planet/shield world. Maybe there’s Covenant and UNSC both stranded on the planet, and they don’t know the war is over. I’d love to see some make shift UNSC camps around thier crashed ships.

I hope we fight Precursors though.

I’m still confused about the Precursor/flood situation?

After Primordium, is the Timeless one really the last Precursor, isn’t it a gravemind? Or am I wrong?

> I’m still confused about the Precursor/flood situation?
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> After Primordium, is the Timeless one really the last Precursor, isn’t it a gravemind? Or am I wrong?

okay if i remember correctly, the guy (forgot his name…havnt slept yet so yea) claimed to be a precursor but really infact was a gravemind…i dont remember if the timeless one is gravemind or precursor though

The timeless one was a super gravemind and said that it was the last of its kind not tthe precursors, some fled the galaxy rebuilding their empire.

> I’m still confused about the Precursor/flood situation?
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> After Primordium, is the Timeless one really the last Precursor, isn’t it a gravemind? Or am I wrong?

The Precursors were a collection of variious highly evolved races–like the Covenant, but less religious and infinitely more advanced–who saw the Flood as the only way to peace, so became the first Graveminds. There is evidence to suggest a Precursor civil war erupted over the creators of the Forerunners (some of whom escaped), so we could have allies. This is told by the line

Didact: “so are you the last Precursor?”

Primordial: “The last of this kind.”

Making the Primordial the last of his race, but not the last Precursor.

And: Primordial: “Those who created you were hunted down–some escaped”

Implying the civil war.

Effectively, the Precursors who wish to “test” humanity in Halo 4 (“In a thousand centuries humanity will be tested again”) are the Flood, specifically the Graveminds.

What im hoping for is Master Chief is sent to some planet that still has the oringinal Halo: CE battle going on. The Marines vs. The Elites and covenant. The Arbiter would have to come to tell the Elites and MC would help the Spartans. Then the Presercuers ( I KNOW i spelled it wrong) show up and its Cov and Humans bvs. them.

> What im hoping for is Master Chief is sent to some planet that still has the oringinal Halo: CE battle going on. The Marines vs. The Elites and covenant. The Arbiter would have to come to tell the Elites and MC would help the Spartans. Then the Presercuers ( I KNOW i spelled it wrong) show up and its Cov and Humans bvs. them.

No.

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> The Precursors were a collection of variious highly evolved races–like the Covenant, but less religious and infinitely more advanced–who saw the Flood as the only way to peace, so became the first Graveminds. There is evidence to suggest a Precursor civil war erupted over the creators of the Forerunners (some of whom escaped), so we could have allies. This is told by the line
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> Didact: “so are you the last Precursor?”
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> Primordial: “The last of this kind.”
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> Making the Primordial the last of his race, but not the last Precursor.
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> And: Primordial: “Those who created you were hunted down–some escaped”
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> Implying the civil war.
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> Effectively, the Precursors who wish to “test” humanity in Halo 4 (“In a thousand centuries humanity will be tested again”) are the Flood, specifically the Graveminds.
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Thank you. Cleared that one up. Although I hope we don’t fight floodfor the whole campaign. Dull O;clock.

The Precursors could make entire races, I doubt it’ll be just the Flood. That said, new Flood forms would be cool, like the flying Flood from Legends.

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> > The Precursors were a collection of variious highly evolved races–like the Covenant, but less religious and infinitely more advanced–who saw the Flood as the only way to peace, so became the first Graveminds. There is evidence to suggest a Precursor civil war erupted over the creators of the Forerunners (some of whom escaped), so we could have allies. This is told by the line
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> > Primordial: “The last of this kind.”
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> > Making the Primordial the last of his race, but not the last Precursor.
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> > And: Primordial: “Those who created you were hunted down–some escaped”
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> > Implying the civil war.
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> > Effectively, the Precursors who wish to “test” humanity in Halo 4 (“In a thousand centuries humanity will be tested again”) are the Flood, specifically the Graveminds.
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> Thank you. Cleared that one up. Although I hope we don’t fight floodfor the whole campaign. Dull O;clock.

Well the Flood is the perfect organism (why the Precursors liked them so much). They can evolve and change to better fit themselves into the role of main enemy.

That said, the Precursors created and destroyed races all the time, like it was a hobby or something, so the possibilities are endless.

> > > > I’m still confused about the Precursor/flood situation?
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> > > The Precursors were a collection of variious highly evolved races–like the Covenant, but less religious and infinitely more advanced–who saw the Flood as the only way to peace, so became the first Graveminds. There is evidence to suggest a Precursor civil war erupted over the creators of the Forerunners (some of whom escaped), so we could have allies. This is told by the line
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> > > Didact: “so are you the last Precursor?”
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> > > Primordial: “The last of this kind.”
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> > > Making the Primordial the last of his race, but not the last Precursor.
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> > > And: Primordial: “Those who created you were hunted down–some escaped”
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> > > Implying the civil war.
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> > > Effectively, the Precursors who wish to “test” humanity in Halo 4 (“In a thousand centuries humanity will be tested again”) are the Flood, specifically the Graveminds.
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> > Thank you. Cleared that one up. Although I hope we don’t fight floodfor the whole campaign. Dull O;clock.
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> Well the Flood is the perfect organism (why the Precursors liked them so much). They can evolve and change to better fit themselves into the role of main enemy.
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> That said, the Precursors created and destroyed races all the time, like it was a hobby or something, so the possibilities are endless.

They remind me of the Reapers from Mass Effect in some areas.

from what i heard the timeless one is the precursor prisoner and then that precursor then became the gravemind.

Lol, unfortunately, as I’m only partially way through Primordium, I can’t read half of your responses.

The thing that leads me to believe (so far) that we’re not battling Precursors is because we were told we would face an ancient enemy. From what I have found out already, we have never been at war with Precursors… They far exceeded our original time in the galaxy and we were left behind in their image alongside Forerunners.

As we battled with Forerunners in the Human / Forerunner war, these are our ancient enemies that we have been told about. Paired with the Shield Worlds that were stationed during the times of the Forerunner / Human war by Didact, the forerunner tasks with annihilation of the human race, it seems like it would be a perfect scenario for ill-informed warrior class forerunners to be present on the shield worlds awaiting further orders…

Well that’d be a perfect way to include Coive races! If the Forerunners put Elites and all the other covie races they easily could have multiplyed and conqueroed one another hence forming an allience. Would be a good way to include them! But I guess we’ll just have to wait and see!

> Well that’d be a perfect way to include Coive races! If the Forerunners put Elites and all the other covie races they easily could have multiplyed and conqueroed one another hence forming an allience. Would be a good way to include them! But I guess we’ll just have to wait and see!

I’m so convinced we’ll see Covenant on the World we’re heading to… we may see them in later games (if the first game is all about that world…) but it doesn’t seem like it could fit in with the story if Covenant were present on an ‘active’ Forerunner world.

They don’t really seem like an ‘Ancient enemy’ either, when they’ve only just become our allies (to an extent)

I just want to find out the truth about what we are fighting! I’m tired of all the speculation lol!

I’m giving 343i props for keeping such a tight lid on Halo 4.

This may explain it all, now we TRULY know who we are figting in the new trilogy

Next great battle

Forerunners aren’t Extinct And The forerunners are far too large and advanced to fight.