So I know that The 'Vadamee was the Supreme Commander of the Fleet of Particular Justice during the fall of Reach and during the events of Halo Combat Evolved/ The Flood. My question is does anyone know what he was up to during that time? Was he participating in ground engagements? Or did he just stay on his command ship? In Halo 2, Truth suggests that he was “focusing his attention on the flood”, but what else was he doing? Does anyone know? If so what book and or comic do I go to for that info?
He was leading from his ship, but got involved in a power struggle with the Prophet of Stewardship, who had been assigned to the fleet. Neither were willing to relinquish command and Thel got so annoyed at the prophet that he sent a ship to forcefully remove him from command, but the prophet destroyed it. He was then planning to go himself, but the Flood attacked and took priority over the prophet. The prophet fled to the Truth and Reconciliation, where he was likely killed by either the humans or the Flood because Vadam refused to rescue him. Then Installation 04 exploded, and you know it ends.
This was all in Halo: The Flood.
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> He was leading from his ship, but got involved in a power struggle with the Prophet of Stewardship, who had been assigned to the fleet. Neither were willing to relinquish command and Thel got so annoyed at the prophet that he sent a ship to forcefully remove him from command, but the prophet destroyed it. He was then planning to go himself, but the Flood attacked and took priority over the prophet. The prophet fled to the Truth and Reconciliation, where he was likely killed by either the humans or the Flood because Vadam refused to rescue him. Then Installation 04 exploded, and you know it ends.
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> This was all in Halo: The Flood.
Weird… my version of the Flood doesn’t have that section though mine was printed in 2003.
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> > He was leading from his ship, but got involved in a power struggle with the Prophet of Stewardship, who had been assigned to the fleet. Neither were willing to relinquish command and Thel got so annoyed at the prophet that he sent a ship to forcefully remove him from command, but the prophet destroyed it. He was then planning to go himself, but the Flood attacked and took priority over the prophet. The prophet fled to the Truth and Reconciliation, where he was likely killed by either the humans or the Flood because Vadam refused to rescue him. Then Installation 04 exploded, and you know it ends.
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> > This was all in Halo: The Flood.
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> Weird… my version of the Flood doesn’t have that section though mine was printed in 2003.
The 2010 reprint had an adjunct section at the end where it talks about it.
He was born.
Ignore the Flood book, the game is more canon.
The Legendary ending shows him and Johnson in a loving embrace, so he was on the ground at some point.
Ummmm I’m just going to ignore the last two posts…
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> Ignore the Flood book, the game is more canon.
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> The Legendary ending shows him and Johnson in a loving embrace, so he was on the ground at some point.
Not sure if serious. If serious, it’s been stated that Johnson’s final embrace is non-canon.
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> > The Legendary ending shows him and Johnson in a loving embrace, so he was on the ground at some point.
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> Not sure if serious. If serious, it’s been stated that Johnson’s final embrace is non-canon.
I consider it more canon than the poorly written Flood book.
Seriously, why did they write a book about a story we already played?
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> I consider it more canon than the poorly written Flood book.
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> Seriously, why did they write a book about a story we already played?
Good question. It was such a drag.
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> > Not sure if serious. If serious, it’s been stated that Johnson’s final embrace is non-canon.
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> I consider it more canon than the poorly written Flood book.
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> Seriously, why did they write a book about a story we already played?
Huh, in your opinion, what made the Flood poorly written? I’m rereading it now and I’m thoroughly enjoying it.
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> > > > The Legendary ending shows him and Johnson in a loving embrace, so he was on the ground at some point.
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> > I consider it more canon than the poorly written Flood book.
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> > Seriously, why did they write a book about a story we already played?
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> Huh, in your opinion, what made the Flood poorly written? I’m rereading it now and I’m thoroughly enjoying it.
It was padded with unnecessary stuff like the elite and grunt who spend the whole game trying to kill Chief, who we never see in game.
Padding with some ODSTs and a UNSC base, which we never see.
Generically evil ONI guy and generically good ODST chick.
Mind numbing descriptions of battles we’ve fought in the game (the Library chapter made me want to shoot my brains out).
Blowing up the Truth and Reconciliation at the end, even though the plan of the surviving UNSC people to capture it is never mentioned in game.
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> > > > > Ignore the Flood book, the game is more canon.
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> > > > > The Legendary ending shows him and Johnson in a loving embrace, so he was on the ground at some point.
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> > > > Not sure if serious. If serious, it’s been stated that Johnson’s final embrace is non-canon.
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> > > I consider it more canon than the poorly written Flood book.
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> > > Seriously, why did they write a book about a story we already played?
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> > Huh, in your opinion, what made the Flood poorly written? I’m rereading it now and I’m thoroughly enjoying it.
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> It was padded with unnecessary stuff like the elite and grunt who spend the whole game trying to kill Chief, who we never see in game.
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> Padding with some ODSTs and a UNSC base, which we never see.
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> Generically evil ONI guy and generically good ODST chick.
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> Mind numbing descriptions of battles we’ve fought in the game (the Library chapter made me want to shoot my brains out).
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> Blowing up the Truth and Reconciliation at the end, even though the plan of the surviving UNSC people to capture it is never mentioned in game.
The grunt you never see, yes, but the Elite is the black Spec Ops Elite that you kill just as you are boarding the lift to get out of the exploding Pillar of Autumn.
The ODSTs are in the game but they are wearing the Marine armor. Cortana does mention a command base and asks Foe Hammer for some help with a rescue mission.
The “generically evil ONI guy” wasn’t actually ONI at all. He was Major Antonio Silva, commanding officer of the Marines, crewmen and other ODSTs when Keyes wasn’t present. I would also argue that he also wasn’t evil, just blinded by the possibility of glory and ambition for returning to Earth with Covenant tech and Flood specimens to study. Lieutenant Melissa McKay recognized the flood for the horrifying threat that they truly are and made the ultimate sacrifice to save humanity.
It is never mentioned in game yes but in the book it explains that the conversation that sparked this plan was between the two AI’s, Cortana and Wellesley, so it’s entirely likely that you wouldn’t hear that chatter in game. In the game Chief even asks “Did anyone else make it?” which strongly implies that there was a plan for the other human survivors to make it off the ring considering that the purpose of the destruction of Halo was to 1. keep Spark from activating Halo. And 2. It was to ensure that the local Flood infestation and Covenant still in close proximity to the ring would be wiped out.
The book helps to clarify these plot points. (Oh and I actually found the battle descriptions to be enjoyable and feel it is a mini challenge to try and play the campaign the same way that it is described in the book).
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> > > > > > The Legendary ending shows him and Johnson in a loving embrace, so he was on the ground at some point.
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> > > > > Not sure if serious. If serious, it’s been stated that Johnson’s final embrace is non-canon.
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> > > > I consider it more canon than the poorly written Flood book.
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> > > > Seriously, why did they write a book about a story we already played?
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> > > Huh, in your opinion, what made the Flood poorly written? I’m rereading it now and I’m thoroughly enjoying it.
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> > It was padded with unnecessary stuff like the elite and grunt who spend the whole game trying to kill Chief, who we never see in game.
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> > Padding with some ODSTs and a UNSC base, which we never see.
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> > Generically evil ONI guy and generically good ODST chick.
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> > Mind numbing descriptions of battles we’ve fought in the game (the Library chapter made me want to shoot my brains out).
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> > Blowing up the Truth and Reconciliation at the end, even though the plan of the surviving UNSC people to capture it is never mentioned in game.
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> The grunt you never see, yes, but the Elite is the black Spec Ops Elite that you kill just as you are boarding the lift to get out of the exploding Pillar of Autumn.
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> The ODSTs are in the game but they are wearing the Marine armor. Cortana does mention a command base and asks Foe Hammer for some help with a rescue mission.
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> The “generically evil ONI guy” wasn’t actually ONI at all. He was Major Antonio Silva, commanding officer of the Marines, crewmen and other ODSTs when Keyes wasn’t present. I would also argue that he also wasn’t evil, just blinded by the possibility of glory and ambition for returning to Earth with Covenant tech and Flood specimens to study. Lieutenant Melissa McKay recognized the flood for the horrifying threat that they truly are and made the ultimate sacrifice to save humanity.
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> It is never mentioned in game yes but in the book it explains that the conversation that sparked this plan was between the two AI’s, Cortana and Wellesley, so it’s entirely likely that you wouldn’t hear that chatter in game. In the game Chief even asks “Did anyone else make it?” which strongly implies that there was a plan for the other human survivors to make it off the ring considering that the purpose of the destruction of Halo was to 1. keep Spark from activating Halo. And 2. It was to ensure that the local Flood infestation and Covenant still in close proximity to the ring would be wiped out.
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> The book helps to clarify these plot points. (Oh and I actually found the battle descriptions to be enjoyable and feel it is a mini challenge to try and play the campaign the same way that it is described in the book).
Fair point about the Spec Ops Elite. However, it feels like Star Wars EU levels of unnecessary backstory where they take some random background character and make them super important (like Ig-88 in Episode V).
Same with Silva, I was simplifying his motivations. However, you’d think such an important character would have been in the game (like Cortana mentioning Silva’s orders or something).
About the AI, that’s just a cheap retcon of Halo CE to say “they were talking the whole time, Chief just couldn’t hear them”.
Chief asked if anyone else made it because you see pelicans and surviving marines in the game. If there was some major plan to commandeer Truth and Reconciliation, it would have been mentioned in that mission.
I am glad you got a fun challenge of replicating the book battles, I personally hated them.
Overall I think it’s a dull book only written to drain money from the Halo IP, just pumping Combat Evolved with backstory it doesn’t need.