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I knew worf was from star trek (big TNG fan) but have never heard the phrase the ‘worf effect’.
Makes complete sense in this context though, thanks for the replies.
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I personally LOVED how they absolutely destroyed the thought that spartans are unkillable beasts and they are still just men and they can still die.
I hated how spartans bassically never die in the older games as it was SO unrealistic and i am never a fan of an undefeatable beast of a man where he is facing an enemy that is VASTLY more OP than him…. It made no sense.
The spartan program made humans on equal terms with a Sangheili and brutes but by no means made them invincible. The spartan killers are the best of the best and were taught by Escharum himself, it makes sense that they would be able to overpower a spartan and kill them, especially Jega, the spartans probably didn’t even know what happened.
But anyways, i really ebjoyed the fact that they killed of spartans. Made em seem more human, more vulnerable. Made chief even better because he overcame what others could not. I also loved that first scene in Infinite…. SOOOOO goood.
Atriox is literally the BEST of the BEST of the BEST of th jirlhanea race….
No one could beat him one on one, he is intelligent and very strong. Probably 1500 pounds if oure muscle.
And i love how 343 has started to destory the trope of spartans being OP as heck and never dying because they are still man, them dying is realistic.
Chief is not made stronger than a brute with his armor my dide, those punches are probably weaker than what areiox has expierenced. You heavily underestimate the strength of jirlhanea. Ateiox waa literally holding half a ton of weight (chief) on an outstretched arm……
Try holding a milk jug like that for 10 seconda and not have your arm wobble.
who’s william 043?
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I HATED That cutscene… it was so bad. All the covenant were literally just bumbling around like they were drunk and on drugs….
At one point vale should have been sliced clean in half but ofc, the leite is drunk or somethign and misses.
The most unrealistic scene i have ever seen
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You are clever for using that name for this.
Intelligence doesn’t make you invisible.
If he was so smart he would have realised Cortana could have destroyed the ring he was standing on. So he’d be dead if he didn’t have a McGuffin and I wonder how many Banished ships and soldiers died in that explosion.
He took on 2 hunters hand to hand and won…
What i meant was he chose when to recea himself and have you ever been in combat? It is EXTREMELY hectic and when a battle is so fast it is over in 4 minutes….
Really? Atriox would have killed any UNSC members who would have seen him before they could have warned anyone else via radio…. And there was a ton of stuff around chief so I don’t really understand what you mean by saying he was invisible
Oh. My. Gosh. I hate that.
Yeah no
It was reiterated many times in the books to and in multiple cutscenes that spartans going hand to hand with Elites and brutes even Spartan 3s results in a blood soaked battlefield from the covies being ripped apart.
The lore was established and they just used a trope to build up the big bad which was moronic especially because being hit by a spartan with ZERO effect is JUST as unrealistic as the spartans being immortal
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Too bad…
I do not quite care if you like it or not. This is about established lore
You can be an Atriox cheerleader if you like. Power to you. It still makes no sense
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And every time you see a dead spartan, how many banished bodies are there? How much blood?
And again, the spaetan killers are rhe best of the best…
Spartans are not unkillable
that’s awesome, is that from a book?
Used SPARINGLY it is OK…
This was not SPARINGLY
The first time it had an effect. Then every time we saw another body or heard a recoding about them almost without fail it was a spartan getting decimated turning them into a joke
Laconius station made SENSE to eliminate do many spartans…and that had impact but everything past the first spartan body? Yeah no…
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Yes it was . you can read it in the wiki too
He was basically the most lethal hand to hand spartan
Why can’t the aliens be OP for once compared to a spartan? Why do spartans always have to OP and never die?
Both combats are essentially decided because he gets the drop on Red Team and Chief. This allows him to fight them in close quarters with his gravity mace. Any Brute Chieftain can win in those circumstances. When we get the boss battle we aren’t going to fight like that. We’ll be running around shooting the bullet sponge until I take the other side of his face. So it’s not intelligence that’s the deciding factor it’s the situation in which poorly armed Spartans get in close combat with a Brute Chieftain.
However that makes no sense because he’s a ten foot tall fur clad walking tank with glowing red armour and a crackling energy mace. The ground should be shaking, he’d stink of wet fur and you would notice a dangerous combatant like that. Plus, Red Team had an AI with them who should have warned them about things like that. Yes there’s hectic, but Red Teams was not hectic and the Chiefs only fighting two Grunts and a Jackal.
To round back to Isabel. These AI can perceive time by the millisecond. They should be able to call out enemies like a Brute Chieftain standing perfectly still in a dimly lit corridor. Yes, Chief did not have Cortana although Bassus also got the drop on him somehow when he had the weapon.
It’s done for narrative reasons. Sets up the villain as a threat. Thematically has Chief and Cortana defeated by this Brute because they’re both apart and stronger together etc etc.
I mean I think Arbiter and Shipmaster would kill Atriox pretty handily. Two opponents who actually have active camo and aren’t carrying knives like Red Team.
The thing is, if it was a spartan instead of ateiox i doubt y’all would be making it an issue
And yes, arby and chief ir arby and rtas could slap just about anyone