Yeah, I’ve noticed the bait tag is usually just a way of saying “I saw that you posted something, and I don’t like you.” Often because you disagreed with them months ago.
Now, your post is a little baity from the tone you set here:
Telling someone to try harder on a video game forum is the best way to pick a fight. Which I’m sure you know.
Look, if someone is saying a perfectly attainable goal isn’t possible, then they simply are not putting the work in and that’s a fact.
But yes you are right about the bait reaction. It is oh so rarely used in good faith.
your comment right there about ‘just try harder’ comes off as baity because it’s literally worthless. People can try for hours and not succeed because as hard as they try, they’re not using the right techniques or don’t have the right settings.
Also, yeah, after switching to controller, most if not all of these are disgustingly obtainable. The AR doesn’t need a nerf, and we don’t need separate controller and keyboard lobbies. We need to nerf aim assist. This is a disease.
Someone’s halfway across the map and i can whip my pistol out and just drill them, not even aiming. barely looking at where my reticle is on their body. We don’t need a shotgun to counter the sword because the BR already counters the sword, as long as you’re using controller. Why is there aim assist on a precision weapon when you’re hip-firing it? Why is there aim assist that acts on a person when you’re using a rocket launcher?
For the record, I take back every negative thing i said about the bulldog. It’s a GREAT weapon! IF, you’re using the disgustingly high aim assist that comes with controller. This is nuts.
I made no judgements on the factuality of your statement. I’m simply offering an opinion on how what you said could be easily interpreted as combative, regardless of your intent. The OP was genuinely asking for advice on a specific drill, and you come in with “try harder” then list your scores for every. single. drill. You don’t strike me as a person that is naive in this area of communication. It comes across as some superiority complex.
Trying to get back on track: Posting some videos would be helpful to showcase the techniques you use to get those tricky 3-star drills. The OP literally asked for help and if anyone had video to show how to aim the Ravager.
Two main principles that helped me a lot.
Never empty a full mag, always reload with at least one in the chamber. The extra seconds of firing you get add up. (Except rockets)
Getting the “quick reaction” on a ton of the bots ended up being the way I passed a lot of the harder drills. It can add up to a ton.
Some were unnecessarily difficult for sure.
Not all weapons benefit from tactical reloads, like you said. I think the mangler doesn’t, I’m pretty sure the hydra doesn’t, aaand there’s a few more but i can’t remember them.
Too bad they don’t have hammer and sword drills.
I can probably 3 star on KB/M too. Let’s see… I don’t play KB/M but the principles should generally be the same.
Okay, 3 star, 27,890 on KB/M for Bulldog 3.
It’s not so bad but yeah there’s like no aim assist at all, whew. KB/M could certainly use some because boy howdy that really is unfair to KB/M players, I feel so, so bad for them.
I mean I don’t like Sodium Bath so. shrug I don’t see the need to hide that fact. But it is outright ignorant to say most of them are basically impossible. Yeah, I did post 3 star scores for every one - and I even did some IN that post that I hadn’t before just to prove a point. You would not be wrong to call me spiteful and petty.
Sometimes I am not nice. I will say thought that this forum brings out my nastier side. I’m not like this usually, lol.
But when I see such horribly erroneous things, well.
EDIT: OH! I see the issue! You thought my post was directed to the OP! No, no, the OP is fine and learning, they’re doing great! I like the OP.
It’s the other one I’m griping with lmao.
The Mangler does actually, it’s weird. The Disruptor doesn’t, which is sort of odd to me but I get it.
It has honestly literally always worked like this. AA is actually really strong on Halo: CE.
EDIT: I should clarify, my scores were not directed at you, but another poster. You are trying harder and doing well. Good job.
I worked at it and got 3 stars in every weapon, I know what you mean about the difficulty curve. For me the absolute hardest was the hydra, you have to be FLAWLESS with every shot to get 3 stars on the last round. One miss and it’s over. You can’t even afford to use the lock on, you have to free fire it because each shot does more damage. The real problem is the slow reload.
Ravager wasn’t bad, they pumped the damage so it’s a two shot kill now, if you get headshots with the second burst.
@CanineHippo6923 I will make a video tonight about how to optimally use the Ravager if I get a chance, I’m pretty good with it now. I have some montages where I feature it
Every weapon does, to some degree.
Even vehicles and turrets.
You can also get a one shot headshot on a no shield opponent with an overcharged plasma pistol.
If it doesn’t curve AROUND the target anyway. Check out THAT behavior in the firing range on a moving target. Stuff is WACK.
Yup! You have to treat it like a high powered rifle you have to lead, stuff is wild. But it teaches you REALLY good aim with it.
I think the hydra and the plasma pistol were the only ones I had to try multiple times to 3 star. Most of the weapons are easy if you know generally how they work and have a steady aim.
Needler was a little tricky on tier 3 until I learned the smart scope actually improves its RRR and tracking and turns it into a god tier murder machine.
Here’s the thing - if a weapon has zoom, it increases RRR. Full stop, period.
But yes, the Needler is actually quite powerful - one of my highest scores is with it.
Of course the score I’m most proud of is the BR at 30k. That’s pure skill - but not perfect by any means. I feel like perfect would be somewhere around 36k.
So, I had no idea what RRR was, so i had to go look it up.
Red Reticle Range. sigh
I think i now how i’m supposed to do the dang plasma pistol drill now…
Is this why I feel like I always get craped on with the needler, but whenever I use it the needles usually just flutter off like butterflies?
I don’t use smart link, or whatever it’s called now, on weapons without scopes. Bad move?
I know but I didn’t realize for a while that the smart scope actually increases the RRR and isn’t just a visual zoom. Even if it doesn’t look like it’s scoping in with many weapons it’s adding value. I was taking it for granted before that.
Heck, I even use it for stuff like the AR and sentinel beam now. It helps with the red reticle range but also slows down and focuses your aim speed. It’s kind of OP and turns a lot of closeish range weapons into solid mid range weapons
The pulse carbine, needler, and plasma pistol are all especially benefitted by it.
Pulse carbine smart scoped in ranked is the new noob combo
Well crap. I thought there was major backlash with how H5 had bonuses from using smarty link and they walked back on that with infinite. Maybe I dreamed it.
They kind of snuck it in under our noses. I mean, most people definitely don’t know about it working that way and there aren’t many if any YouTube videos on the topic that I’ve seen.
It’s kind of well known about in high level and pro play, though. It was a lot bigger deal before the drop combo got GA’d
Alright, zooming in let me INSTANTLY jump from 8k average to 13k with the plasma pistol. Kinda irritating. But, now I know. Gonna have to put these tips in the thread i made earlier about drill techniques.
Aye yeah nah it’s just straight up an improvement across the board. Now, sometimes there’s a right and wrong time to do it - you can use the BR across a map pretty handily without a scope. But at some point you need to use it. I’ll put it this way - if you don’t have RRR, use the scope to get it back. Now PC users like me never have it, but it IS present in weapon drills… Soooooo… We can at least get a feel for WHERE it disappears and adjust accordingly.
Sentinel Beam is INSANE. Headshot multiplier too.
And that’s why the AR is busted.
Dunno’ about that. It still has abysmal tracking + travel time.
Oh no see, they outright LIED TO US in Halo 5. They said it provided NO advantage. Aozolai, more than anyone else, proved otherwise to the broader playerbase.
Definitley true. Though the drop combo was, frankly, never THAT much better than just switching tbh. What really got GA’d was using the mangler basically at all with the BR.
Nobody does that at high Elo because everyone knows how horribly cheap it is. Fun fact - it’s the Mangler 2 shot + BR finisher, that made the Mangler a must have (and since it respawned, whoever had all the manglers WON outright), not the melee combo that was so popular in social play.
Mhm. It’s like that
Don’t forget - pretty much every weapon gets a headshot bonus. You want 3 Stars in Plasma pistol? Go for the head with standard shots after an overcharge.
Yes really.
sorry, just now saw this.
Okay, couple things. First thing is,
And I don’t want you to take this as an attack, because it’s not,
I didn’t assume you were being hostile toward me, I was saying your comment was rude, and you’re justifying it by saying you don’t like saltbath. You don’t have to like everyone, but a comment that just starts a flame war is the definition of bait. More importantly, these forums pop up on google a lot. The person you’re responding to is never the only person who’s going to see it. People trying to improve their technique who see ‘git gud’ as the only advice become more frustrated with their own inability because they don’t know how to get good. It’s okay not to like someone, but for the sake of those who come later, please try to be constructive. First impressions matter, and you never know when your comment is going to determine whether someone you’d like will find the forums and stay, or leave.
Second thing. I didn’t have too much trouble with the bulldog- i got 26k with mouse and keyboard; haven’t gone back with controller assist yet. But finishing the sidekick with a score of 21k? Made my hand feel like i was wearing a metal gauntlet fresh out the oven, full of lemon juice and razorblades. Mouse is not adviseable for ‘hold to zoom.’ Middle finger will fall off your hand. Or come close enough.
third, I’m getting… mixed data… on whether smartlink / zoom affects weapons in halo infinite beyond just affecting zoom. If it’s affecting rrr, and it IS because I tested it- then it’s not JUST increasing the range you can see- the hidden mechanical effect of increasing RRR has not been explained. I can’t find documentation online talking about this. When i try to find it on google, it just gives me halo 5 crap. When i try to find it on youtube, it’s talking about either halo 5, or it’s videos talking about smart link in halo infinite based on the leaked gameplay in 2021. I can’t find ANYTHING on this. Even halopedia says it has no additional effects beyond increasing your zoom, which is incorrect. Where the heck is the weapon trivia?!
fourth, I observed a weird behavior; SHOULD be reproducible in plasma pistol drill 3. When the target is close to you, the shooter, and he’s strafing left and right, if you’re holding a charged shot, your red reticle turns white while he’s behind the wall. Note, he’s not ducking. The wall is belt high. But the red reticle still disappears while you’re aimed at him, even zoomed in. I think this behavior MIGHT have something to do with people’s aim assist ‘randomly’ turning off mid gunfight. Needs more testing.