Now the Wasp is useless. Seriously, the Wasp wasn’t that powerful to begin with. The machine guns were not the best, and the rockets on it were the best thing with it. To top it off, it has a very small amount of armor and can explode very easily from any weapon. Don’t tell me that everyone can group up, use wasps, and the result would be an unbalanced game. There are plenty of req weapons and vehicles that players can use to destroy the Wasps, and again, you can pretty much use every weapon to destroy a wasp. Also, Do Not assume that I’m talking about all Wasp variants. I can understand making the ONI Wasp and Hannibal Wasp one level higher. I am only talking about the normal Wasp variant. The Wasp also wasn’t really an OP vehicle, it was just an average one. It wasn’t the best, but it can be useful in certain situations. I felt like the Wasp being at level 3 was perfect, but now since some guy thought it was OP, it is even worse than before. But, I’m not here to just state a problem that I think is wrong. I want to hear from you. Do you think I’m wrong? Do you agree? If you do think I’m wrong please explain with evidence.
I agree, and I don’t agree.
I finally got a wasp out of a req pack the other day, I hopped into a Warzone match, got taken it out by a rail gun within seconds.
It’s just sucky how many counters there are to the Wasp. But ultimately I see why it’s been moved to Req level 4.
The opposing team that’s generally dominating the battle, if they’ve got req level 3 already, and the other team is still working on getting to 2 and 3, there’s not a lot of hope to counter it. They’ve got pistols and AR’s.
With it being req level 4, both teams should have enough time to either get a req good enough to counter the wasp, or spawn a wasp.
But that’s the great thing about Warzone, it’s a crazy unbalanced mess. It’s great. Sometimes frustrating, but great.
Match a 12 man team who know how to play warzone and use wasps then when you’re stuck in your base with 2 kills and 20 deaths tell me the wasp isn’t op at level 3
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> I agree, and I don’t agree.
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> I finally got a wasp out of a req pack the other day, I hopped into a Warzone match, got taken it out by a rail gun within seconds.
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> It’s just sucky how many counters there are to the Wasp. But ultimately I see why it’s been moved to Req level 4.
>
> The opposing team that’s generally dominating the battle, if they’ve got req level 3 already, and the other team is still working on getting to 2 and 3, there’s not a lot of hope to counter it. They’ve got pistols and AR’s.
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> With it being req level 4, both teams should have enough time to either get a req good enough to counter the wasp, or spawn a wasp.
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> But that’s the great thing about Warzone, it’s a crazy unbalanced mess. It’s great. Sometimes frustrating, but great.
Indeed. Warzone is unpredictable. However, isn’t it really easy to get to level 3? It shouldn’t be a problem if the opposing team is using Wasps, because the “not opposing” team could use Wasps too.
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> Match a 12 man team who know how to play warzone and use wasps then when you’re stuck in your base with 2 kills and 20 deaths tell me the wasp isn’t op at level 3
Are you telling me that the player with 2 kills and 20 deaths could not use ANYTHING to survive? Not even a wasp?
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> > I agree, and I don’t agree.
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> > I finally got a wasp out of a req pack the other day, I hopped into a Warzone match, got taken it out by a rail gun within seconds.
> >
> > It’s just sucky how many counters there are to the Wasp. But ultimately I see why it’s been moved to Req level 4.
> >
> > The opposing team that’s generally dominating the battle, if they’ve got req level 3 already, and the other team is still working on getting to 2 and 3, there’s not a lot of hope to counter it. They’ve got pistols and AR’s.
> >
> > With it being req level 4, both teams should have enough time to either get a req good enough to counter the wasp, or spawn a wasp.
> >
> > But that’s the great thing about Warzone, it’s a crazy unbalanced mess. It’s great. Sometimes frustrating, but great.
>
> Indeed. Warzone is unpredictable. However, isn’t it really easy to get to level 3? It shouldn’t be a problem if the opposing team is using Wasps, because the “not opposing” team could use Wasps too.
My best advice is to capture bases and play defense in the beginning rounds. That’s where most of your Req level energy is going to come from. At least from what I’ve noticed with how I play. Before you know it, you’ll be flying a wasp and slamming bullets into the skulls of enemy Spartans.
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> > > I agree, and I don’t agree.
> > >
> > > I finally got a wasp out of a req pack the other day, I hopped into a Warzone match, got taken it out by a rail gun within seconds.
> > >
> > > It’s just sucky how many counters there are to the Wasp. But ultimately I see why it’s been moved to Req level 4.
> > >
> > > The opposing team that’s generally dominating the battle, if they’ve got req level 3 already, and the other team is still working on getting to 2 and 3, there’s not a lot of hope to counter it. They’ve got pistols and AR’s.
> > >
> > > With it being req level 4, both teams should have enough time to either get a req good enough to counter the wasp, or spawn a wasp.
> > >
> > > But that’s the great thing about Warzone, it’s a crazy unbalanced mess. It’s great. Sometimes frustrating, but great.
> >
> > Indeed. Warzone is unpredictable. However, isn’t it really easy to get to level 3? It shouldn’t be a problem if the opposing team is using Wasps, because the “not opposing” team could use Wasps too.
>
> My best advice is to capture bases and play defense in the beginning rounds. That’s where most of your Req level energy is going to come from. At least from what I’ve noticed with how I play. Before you know it, you’ll be flying a wasp and slamming bullets into the skulls of enemy Spartans.
Thanks for the advice! 
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> > Match a 12 man team who know how to play warzone and use wasps then when you’re stuck in your base with 2 kills and 20 deaths tell me the wasp isn’t op at level 3
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> Are you telling me that the player with 2 kills and 20 deaths could not use ANYTHING to survive? Not even a wasp?
I’d like to see them try. Most of the time you’d be stuck at level 2, the recent update changed plasma pistol to level 2 so you could emp them but good luck killing them after that. Warlords was literally just whoever could get wasps first and keep them up, got boring really quickly.
One more thing. Some people might bring up the fact that a bad player could not win against another team, in which that team uses Wasps. Be logical. If I was dying to a team that used Wasps, I would use a low req weapon or vehicle to defeat the opposing Wasps.
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> Now the Wasp is useless. Seriously, the Wasp wasn’t that powerful to begin with. The machine guns were not the best, and the rockets on it were the best thing with it. To top it off, it has a very small amount of armor and can explode very easily from any weapon. Don’t tell me that everyone can group up, use wasps, and the result would be an unbalanced game. There are plenty of req weapons and vehicles that players can use to destroy the Wasps, and again, you can pretty much use every weapon to destroy a wasp. Also, Do Not assume that I’m talking about all Wasp variants. I can understand making the ONI Wasp and Hannibal Wasp one level higher. I am only talking about the normal Wasp variant. The Wasp also wasn’t really an OP vehicle, it was just an average one. It wasn’t the best, but it can be useful in certain situations. I felt like the Wasp being at level 3 was perfect, but now since some guy thought it was OP, it is even worse than before. But, I’m not here to just state a problem that I think is wrong. I want to hear from you. Do you think I’m wrong? Do you agree? If you do think I’m wrong please explain with evidence.
Its a horrifically dangerous vehicle.
People do group up. I am more likely to drop my REQ cards if I see us all doing that. Safety in numbers.
At level 3? No you really couldn’t. Warthog and ghosts are very exposed. Grenade launcher is too inaccurate. Plasma pistol has short range and is high risk.
It has shields. You zip back into cover and can keep the thing in the fight. Just keep picking people off one at a time. 3 or 4 of them doing that can easily pin an enemy team.
I agree the req level wasn’t the problem it was the drop rate its so easy to counter a wasp.
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> > > Match a 12 man team who know how to play warzone and use wasps then when you’re stuck in your base with 2 kills and 20 deaths tell me the wasp isn’t op at level 3
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> > Are you telling me that the player with 2 kills and 20 deaths could not use ANYTHING to survive? Not even a wasp?
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> I’d like to see them try. Most of the time you’d be stuck at level 2, the recent update changed plasma pistol to level 2 so you could emp them but good luck killing them after that. Warlords was literally just whoever could get wasps first and keep them up, got boring really quickly.
I never played Warlords, so I have no experience with it; but why would it be difficult to kill a player in a Wasp, right after you use an EMP shot? Couldn’t you just repeatedly EMP the Wasp until you got close enough to hijack it?
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> > > > Match a 12 man team who know how to play warzone and use wasps then when you’re stuck in your base with 2 kills and 20 deaths tell me the wasp isn’t op at level 3
> > >
> > > Are you telling me that the player with 2 kills and 20 deaths could not use ANYTHING to survive? Not even a wasp?
> >
> > I’d like to see them try. Most of the time you’d be stuck at level 2, the recent update changed plasma pistol to level 2 so you could emp them but good luck killing them after that. Warlords was literally just whoever could get wasps first and keep them up, got boring really quickly.
>
> I never played Warlords, so I have no experience with it; but why would it be difficult to kill a player in a Wasp, right after you use an EMP shot? Couldn’t you just repeatedly EMP the Wasp until you got close enough to hijack it?
Try that when you’re getting shot by 4 other wasps
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> > Now the Wasp is useless. Seriously, the Wasp wasn’t that powerful to begin with. The machine guns were not the best, and the rockets on it were the best thing with it. To top it off, it has a very small amount of armor and can explode very easily from any weapon. Don’t tell me that everyone can group up, use wasps, and the result would be an unbalanced game. There are plenty of req weapons and vehicles that players can use to destroy the Wasps, and again, you can pretty much use every weapon to destroy a wasp. Also, Do Not assume that I’m talking about all Wasp variants. I can understand making the ONI Wasp and Hannibal Wasp one level higher. I am only talking about the normal Wasp variant. The Wasp also wasn’t really an OP vehicle, it was just an average one. It wasn’t the best, but it can be useful in certain situations. I felt like the Wasp being at level 3 was perfect, but now since some guy thought it was OP, it is even worse than before. But, I’m not here to just state a problem that I think is wrong. I want to hear from you. Do you think I’m wrong? Do you agree? If you do think I’m wrong please explain with evidence.
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> Its a horrifically dangerous vehicle.
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> People do group up.
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> At level 3? No you really couldn’t. Warthog and ghosts are very exposed. Grenade launcher is too inaccurate. Plasma pistol has short range and is high risk.
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> It has shields. You zip back into cover and can keep the thing in the fight. Just keep picking people off one at a time. 3 or 4 of them doing that can easily pin an enemy team.
The Wasp is also exposed. It’s up high in the sky where anyone can shoot it. A full Warthog wouldn’t be able to destroy a normal wasp? (It couldn’t if the gunner has bad aim.) Also, the Warthog is faster than the Wasp.
The only reason the wasp got moved up was because it can’t be stopped in groups. The solution was to either move it up a req level or limit it to 2 on a team at one time
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> > > > Match a 12 man team who know how to play warzone and use wasps then when you’re stuck in your base with 2 kills and 20 deaths tell me the wasp isn’t op at level 3
> > >
> > > Are you telling me that the player with 2 kills and 20 deaths could not use ANYTHING to survive? Not even a wasp?
> >
> > I’d like to see them try. Most of the time you’d be stuck at level 2, the recent update changed plasma pistol to level 2 so you could emp them but good luck killing them after that. Warlords was literally just whoever could get wasps first and keep them up, got boring really quickly.
>
> I never played Warlords, so I have no experience with it; but why would it be difficult to kill a player in a Wasp, right after you use an EMP shot? Couldn’t you just repeatedly EMP the Wasp until you got close enough to hijack it?
Because this assumes you’re fighting only one enemy. OR that the Wasps lands in a position to be hijacked. Or if the EMP hits them to begin with. Or if you live long enough to fire it in the first place because it can shoot back.
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> The Wasp is also exposed. It’s up high in the sky where anyone can shoot it. A full Warthog wouldn’t be able to destroy a normal wasp? (It couldn’t if the gunner has bad aim.) Also, the Warthog is faster than the Wasp.
The fact that it’s high up in the sky means it has the maneuverability to avoid shots, and has many more places to take cover. Also, as a person on the ground, you have to aim up to hit it, meaning you have to take your attention away from ground troops.
A Warthog requires two people to use effectively. On top of which, the Wasps gun can kill the gunner, making it near useless. Also, has much more maneuverability and cover than a Warthog does.
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> > > > Match a 12 man team who know how to play warzone and use wasps then when you’re stuck in your base with 2 kills and 20 deaths tell me the wasp isn’t op at level 3
> > >
> > > Are you telling me that the player with 2 kills and 20 deaths could not use ANYTHING to survive? Not even a wasp?
> >
> > I’d like to see them try. Most of the time you’d be stuck at level 2, the recent update changed plasma pistol to level 2 so you could emp them but good luck killing them after that. Warlords was literally just whoever could get wasps first and keep them up, got boring really quickly.
>
> I never played Warlords, so I have no experience with it; but why would it be difficult to kill a player in a Wasp, right after you use an EMP shot? Couldn’t you just repeatedly EMP the Wasp until you got close enough to hijack it?
How do? What about the other 3-4 wasps in the air? I’m sure they’ll just let you walk right up to the stunned wasp /s They didn’t raise the req due to one wasp being an issue, they did it because if a team spams out multiples it becomes hard to fight vs.
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> Now the Wasp is useless. Seriously, the Wasp wasn’t that powerful to begin with. The machine guns were not the best, and the rockets on it were the best thing with it. To top it off, it has a very small amount of armor and can explode very easily from any weapon. Don’t tell me that everyone can group up, use wasps, and the result would be an unbalanced game. There are plenty of req weapons and vehicles that players can use to destroy the Wasps, and again, you can pretty much use every weapon to destroy a wasp. Also, Do Not assume that I’m talking about all Wasp variants. I can understand making the ONI Wasp and Hannibal Wasp one level higher. I am only talking about the normal Wasp variant. The Wasp also wasn’t really an OP vehicle, it was just an average one. It wasn’t the best, but it can be useful in certain situations. I felt like the Wasp being at level 3 was perfect, but now since some guy thought it was OP, it is even worse than before. But, I’m not here to just state a problem that I think is wrong. I want to hear from you. Do you think I’m wrong? Do you agree? If you do think I’m wrong please explain with evidence.
I think it was a little OP at 3, but that was because there was not enough to counter it other than another Wasp. At level 4 there is way to much that can take it down with one shot so now it is completely useless unless you are in a Swarm which is what they wanted to get away from. I think that with the REQ levels the way they are right now there is really no right place for the Wasp. We need to either have more levels or less weapons and vehicles, not enough variance right now to keep things balanced.