We’ve had enough time to play now since the last update to have a fair assessment of the wasp.
I personaly like the new element a weaker level 3 req flying vehicle adds to warzone. At level 3 it’s a game changer, and a very handy low req vehicle and something we haven’t had in warzone yet. Very fragile, but when used correctly can be a pain in the rear for the other team.
A falcon would have been cool. Still could be, but IMO a powerful flying vehicle like a falcon wasn’t needed as much as vehicle like the wasp. Falcon would have likely been a level 6 or 7 req anyway. Something we already have plenty of.
Immediately after last update there was a bit of an outcry from a few members of the community here that were upset that 343 introduced a unsc flying vehicle that wasn’t the falcon. At this point I like the addition of the wasp. It is a win for 343.
I wouldnt mind still seeing a falcon. Especially in the blandest halo 5 playlist BTB (this is still nowhere near the level of previous halos). But I don’t think we should hate on the wasp because it’s not a falcon. It was a good add.
I agree with your assessment of the wasp. I wouldn’t go as far as to say it is better than …, but I see your point.
What’s this? Someone not complaining about about the wasp and how it is apparently just a terrible version of the falcon? How dare you state you honest opinion about something.
But seriously I like the wasp and it’s my new favourite air vehicle to use.
The only problem I have with it is how weak it’s armour and shields are and the fact it doesn’t have any kind of boost to get out of tight spots.
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> What’s this? Someone not complaining about about the wasp and how it is apparently just a terrible version of the falcon? How dare you state you honest opinion about something.
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> But seriously I like the wasp and it’s my new favourite air vehicle to use.
> The only problem I have with it is how weak it’s armour and shields are and the fact it doesn’t have any kind of boost to get out of tight spots.
That’s actually what I like about it. It won’t take very much team shot after the shields are dropped so you have to play a very calculated game with it. Req one after level 5 though it won’t last long at all.
Its a great early game flying vehicle. Mid to late game, It’ll be destroyed almost immediately after spawning it.
I get it now. Once the higher reqs like scorpions,mantises, banshees, and phaetons come out it won’t stand a chance unless other variant will be added.
I see the wasp as more of an infantry harassment air vehicle.
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> What’s this? Someone not complaining about about the wasp and how it is apparently just a terrible version of the falcon? How dare you state you honest opinion about something.
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> But seriously I like the wasp and it’s my new favourite air vehicle to use.
> The only problem I have with it is how weak it’s armour and shields are and the fact it doesn’t have any kind of boost to get out of tight spots.
You know some people honestly do hate the wasp and do think its a weaker falcon or hornet. I like the wasp and all be in all honesty, it’s just a nerfed hornet.
I think the Falcon would have been a much better choice simply because there is no aerial vehicles like it available in the game. We already have two one man piloted aerial vehicles, but no aerial vehicle that carries multiple passengers/gunners.
We have plenty of one man aerial vehicles, we have no passenger/gunner aerial vehicles. Simple as that.
i just got a running riot with the wasp lol.
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> > What’s this? Someone not complaining about about the wasp and how it is apparently just a terrible version of the falcon? How dare you state you honest opinion about something.
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> > But seriously I like the wasp and it’s my new favourite air vehicle to use.
> > The only problem I have with it is how weak it’s armour and shields are and the fact it doesn’t have any kind of boost to get out of tight spots.
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> You know some people honestly do hate the wasp and do think its a weaker falcon or hornet. I like the wasp and all be in all honesty, it’s just a nerfed hornet.
Yeah. I can back that assesment. It is very much a nerfed hornet. A falcon would devastate a wasp, like nothing. But I’m not trying to debate which Is better, more which is the better add. The niche that a wasp fills makes it a great addition.
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> I get it now. Once the higher reqs like scorpions,mantises, banshees, and phaetons come out it won’t stand a chance unless other variant will be added.
> I see the wasp as more of an infantry harassment air vehicle.
Sometimes that’s my favorite thing about the Wasp. It’s kinda fun to just fly around and piss off your enemies.
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> > > What’s this? Someone not complaining about about the wasp and how it is apparently just a terrible version of the falcon? How dare you state you honest opinion about something.
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> > > But seriously I like the wasp and it’s my new favourite air vehicle to use.
> > > The only problem I have with it is how weak it’s armour and shields are and the fact it doesn’t have any kind of boost to get out of tight spots.
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> > You know some people honestly do hate the wasp and do think its a weaker falcon or hornet. I like the wasp and all be in all honesty, it’s just a nerfed hornet.
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> Yeah. I can back that assesment. It is very much a nerfed hornet. A falcon would devastate a wasp, like nothing. But I’m not trying to debate which Is better, more which is the better add. The niche that a wasp fills makes it a great addition.
Yeah I can agree with that.
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> I think the Falcon would have been a much better choice simply because there is no aerial vehicles like it available in the game. We already have two one man piloted aerial vehicles, but no aerial vehicle that carries multiple passengers/gunners.
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> We have plenty of one man aerial vehicles, we have no passenger/gunner aerial vehicles. Simple as that.
I can understand that. I would still like to have seen a falcon. I just think the wasp was a fantastic addition.
Speaking of of multiple passenger vehicles, one that I am still surprised wasn’t added was the old style scout hog ( can’t remember what it was called at the moment) the one that carried 4 players. That would be a great way to move groups around the map to push bases, bosses etc.
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> > I think the Falcon would have been a much better choice simply because there is no aerial vehicles like it available in the game. We already have two one man piloted aerial vehicles, but no aerial vehicle that carries multiple passengers/gunners.
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> > We have plenty of one man aerial vehicles, we have no passenger/gunner aerial vehicles. Simple as that.
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> I can understand that. I would still like to have seen a falcon. I just think the wasp was a fantastic addition.
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> Speaking of of multiple passenger vehicles on that I am still surprised wasn’t added was the old style scout hog ( can’t remember what it was called at the moment) the one that carried 4 players. That would be a great way to move groups around the map to push bases, bosses etc.
That would be the M831 Troop Transport Warthog.
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> We’ve had enough time to play now since the last update to have a fair assessment of the wasp.
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> I personaly like the new element a weaker level 3 req flying vehicle adds to warzone. At level 3 it’s a game changer, and a very handy low req vehicle and something we haven’t had in warzone yet. Very fragile, but when used correctly can be a pain in the rear for the other team.
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> A falcon would have been cool. Still could be, but IMO a powerful flying vehicle like a falcon wasn’t needed as much as vehicle like the wasp. Falcon would have likely been a level 6 or 7 req anyway. Something we already have plenty of.
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> Immediately after last update there was a bit of an outcry from a few members of the community here that were upset that 343 introduced a unsc flying vehicle that wasn’t the falcon. At this point I like the addition of the wasp. It is a win for 343.
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> I wouldnt mind still seeing a falcon. Especially in the blandest halo 5 playlist BTB (this is still nowhere near the level of previous halos). But I don’t think we should hate on the wasp because it’s not a falcon. It was a good add.
It’s not the fact the falcon was not introduced that is annoying people. It’s the fact that we have yet again another single player vehicle. Players wanted a cooperative vehicle to be added in to the game, it didn’t even need turrets, just ad side seats like the hornet had. The wasp would be perfect if it had 2 handle bars for 2 additional players to grab onto, but it doesn’t. It’s just another vehicle which puts up a middle finger to cooperative play.
Completely agree OP. Here is some ways/evidence it could fit(Falcon) I also like the wasp, but I like cooperative play a lot more. Currently the 9 warthog certs I have JUST fills the amount of hogs I require to get my team a leg up at the start of the match. I think for the wasp to really stand out it needs variants, but that is for another thread. In my opinion, the falcon could be a great addition for fireteams that wouldn’t promote farming. The thread I have put in has more better examples of ideas by the community for a falcon.
Personally love the wasp, hate how I never seem to have any of them left. I think it was a very smart addition to the game as like OP said, we already have 4 banshees and two phaetons. I wish the game had more air vehicles in it and the wasp was a very good choice to add. I am very excited for maybe two variants that will probably come out with the upcoming content drop, I’d always like more in the way of air vehicles though. There is a lot of diversity for ground vehicles, however the wasp was definitely a step in the right direction. What I would like to see from a variant is a speed boost ability, as OP stated it is bad for getting out of the way fast. If we could engage afterburners for 4 seconds or so which would increase speed to 1.5x or 2x i think it would be really good.
Maybe if they added hornet for forge and custom games, I’d like it. Maybe even make a hornet as a req variant for the wasp. Something else on the same lines, Grizzly tanks being Scorpion variant? I think that would be awesome. Also, maybe Troop Falcons? No guns, only seats.(Can we have our troophogs back tho?)