The TU/Vanilla Team Slayer Voting was done wrong.

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I’d like to commend 343i for letting the community decide which we like better and would like to see as the default for the Team Slayer playlist, but it wasn’t done right.

The way that they had it setup was,

TU Slayer
Reflection

Slayer DMRs
Sword Base

and vice versa of course with sometimes it being TU Slayer DMRs and Slayer.

They should have had it setup like this,

TU Slayer DMRs
Reflection

Slayer DMRs
Reflection

or

TU Slayer
Sword Base

Slayer
Sword Base

…and once you veto both, you get a new map selection and switch between the DMR selection & the slayer selection.

Whenever it was TU Slayer vs Slayer DMRs in the rotation, I found myself choosing the Slayer DMRs gametype, even though I enjoy the title update more.

I noticed this A LOT actually when playing with other people. Everyone always chose the DMR option, even if they liked the other option (TU/Vanilla) better.

Anyone else agree here?

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I’ve addressed this problem before myself and I fully agree. Some people honestly don’t care whether it TU or Vanilla. A good chunk of people will vote based on map preference or gametype preference. I myself would rather not play anything Elite Slayer. We are not going to get an accurate result from the voting.

343, I know it sucks but you should really redo the voting. It must be same map and same gametype (in the sense of DMR vs DMR, normal slayer versus normal slayer, or Elite Slayer versus Elite Slayer). The only difference should be either TU or Vanilla.

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I agree completely. I prefer the TU, but I prefer not playing any Elite Slayer. I also noticed that people were just voting for whichever option was DMR’s.

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bumpskis.

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Nothing you can really do at this point. And 343 is a huge advocate of their TU settings. They weren’t trying to make TU lose, they were simply trying to provide more options to the players.

I personally voted TU no matter what, honestly IMO TU Elite Slayer is better than Vanilla anything.

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Fully agree with OP on this. I think most people voting in the matches are really unaware about the differences between default and Vanilla. Makes you wonder, “why didn’t they think of that?”

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Um, duh. Which are players more likely to pick:

Default DMR starts Sword Base, or TU AR starts on Asylum?

This wasn’t done properly. However TU >> Default still.

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The real problem was bringing this vote up on the first place. Enough better playlists have TU already.

There was no need to do this vote thing.

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If TU wins, why does it matter how voting was conducted?

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Yes, the voting options were uneven as heck. TU Slayer or DMR Slayer? lol

Or my favorite: TU Elite Slayer and Slayer. Oh god…some wouldn’t vote TU because it was dinosaur Slayer. Must be that ZB Needle Rife again, people can’t hang.

IMO, it should have always been like this: TU DMR Slayer and DMR Slayer. TU Elite Slayer and Elite Slayer. TU Slayer and Slayer. This way it’s more even and players won’t have to compromise on voting Vanilla or vice versa.

That way most wouldn’t be forced to vote against TU just simply because it was derp starts. Even if the maps were bad, the bad ones would usually end up on TU gametypes and the tolerable ones with Vanilla. >.<

Still, TU all the way. I am looking forward to improving it (and lets face it, it needs tweaking) unless 343 just decides to leave Reach as is and focus efforts on H4.

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> If TU wins, why does it matter how voting was conducted?

Oh but if Vanilla wins, the voting would matter right?

*smfhi

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Having either both DMRs or Slayer, and also both with the same map would have been such an accurate way, but then the one above has an advantage…

Anyway, I don’t care as long as one of them wins.

Go TU!

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> Nothing you can really do at this point. And 343 is a huge advocate of their TU settings. They weren’t trying to make TU lose, they were simply trying to provide more options to the players.
>
> I personally voted TU no matter what, honestly IMO TU Elite Slayer is better than Vanilla anything.

you have to admit though, this voting crap does seem rigged.

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Yeah, I’ve got to admit that. Also, something really upsetting that I’ve noticed. I play with a mic, right? Well almost NOBODY that I’ve played with knew what TU meant, so I had to spend most of the game explaining what TU actually was. This is very distressing. Because most of the time TU slayer doesn’t get picked, the people in the game say “well, it’s because I don’t know what TU is, and I know that normal Slayer is cool so I chose Slayer.” I actually started polling people with mics on whether or not they knew what TU was, and 78% of players didn’t even know what TU slayer was! That means that people may not even know what’s good for them! I honestly think that 343 should set up a poll ON THE FORUMS where people vote on whether we should switch to TU or not. Because, most of the people on the forums read the bulletins, and they know the changes, and frankly they know the game better than other people. I think that allowing the Waypoint users to vote would produce much more desired results, and allow us to enjoy the game better.