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Infinite launched with Bot Bootcamp, Quickplay, Big Team, Ranked Solo Kbm, Ranked Solo Controller and Ranked Crossplay - 6 playlists with event playlists prepared for the two events in season 1.

Halo 3 launched with 4 ranked playlists and 4 social playlists, so only 8. Hardly a giant leap.

Halo Infinite has bots too which is a big bonus to something lacking to Halo 3. I mean we can compare all day but to act like there is a gigantic gap in content is false.

Halo 3 also had multiple map issues for players getting out of them. People seriously acting like it was this perfect game.

Halo 2 had all the gun glitches and superbounces. Not to mention lag switchers and people being kicked offline in ranked games. Are any of you remembering any of this?

I’m not saying Infinite is the better game. I’m saying y’all got some selective memories on the state of Halo 3 at launch (and even at death).

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Saying Infinite has more content than Halo 3 did is laughable.

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Depends how you quantify it but yeah it does have more content in most ways.

Look how much stuff Infinite launched without that every other Halo game had at launch including 3. Halo 3 also had career progession at launch which infinite is sorely missing.

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Like what?

Meh. I did like H3, got to 5 star general. Did give you something to grind when you felt a little unmotivated to play.

I actually preferred the playlists ranks they implemented later down the line.

I actually don’t buy that.

I reckon they are being worked into the ground but are being asked to make the impossible work. If you can’t get Co-Op or mission select or put an XP progression in then something is very wrong under the hood.

They had six years to develop this. Everything they’re trying to get out the door are either legacy features or very modest content like two additional maps a season and two armour sets.

I certainly hope mid year they will announce this new mode and campaign DLC. Because the core multiplayer is not doing it right now.

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Looking back at it again, I think halo 3 had 7 new multiplayer maps by summer of 2008, within 10 months of release. By 10 months of halo infinite we will have 2. That is a quite stark difference considering we also don’t have forge to keep ourselves occupied.

They released the heroic map pack, legendary map pack and cold storage all within 10 months of release, 6 of which were in c6 months.

One of these games was a ‘live service’. Which one do you think that is?

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Two words: Economic inflation.

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isn’t inflation per definition economic?

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This is the problem - with one hand they’re saying “We prioritize the health and well-being of our teams” while everything else screams death march/black company which is categorically the opposite of prioritizing the health and well-being of employees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_march_(project_management)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_company_(Japanese_term)

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Not if you’ve seen that infamous bowling alley GIF.

You only realized that right now?

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I’d hoped they would turn things around and not have quite as disastrous a launch. But we’re in a much worse place with this season 3 delay. It is getting to Battlefield 2042 levels now.

It matters to me because this all directly impacts whether they can or what sort of campaign dlc they can do. They won’t do campaign expansion for a game that’s not earning them money and if they can’t make content to sell then they won’t be able to do that.

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If this is the case then it all makes sense. Any actual acknowledgement of the task being impossible to fix will be the death nail for this game and 343 as a whole. I don’t see how they come back from this with the 500 million dollar development budget.

Let me list a few things that halo 3 had that infinite does not have yet

Co-op campaign

Playable elites

The ability to mix and match colors

Customizable emblems

The flood

Forge

Infection

Race

Vip

The arbiter

Party up

Proximity chat

The ability to talk to the enemy team in game

The ability to talk while in the matchmaking lobby with other players that aren’t in your group

A actual progress system outside of a battle pass and challenge system

You saying that the only thing halo 3 has over infinite is the co-op is OBJECTIVELY false

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“Halo 2 had all the gun glitches”

Button combos were kept implemented into the game as a technique if they were unintended they would’ve been patched out in the pc port and subsequently mcc but only super jumps were

Also getting out of the maps in 3 didn’t prevent you from dying to someone who’s inside the map unlike 2

They weren’t in Halo 3 anywhere near launch.

Good riddance.

The rest is customisation and campaign wants.

Customisation in Halo Infinite is far more detailed than Halo 3 albeit Halo 3 had much more “free” options. For 60 bucks you can get a similar level/better customisation than you did in Halo 3.

The absence of Flood or Arbiter makes no sense. It’s a story decision, not a lack of content. Anyway Arbiter was a big part of Halo 2 but no more than an afterthought in Halo 3.

WRONG i played infection and race with my little bro before i had xbox live you’re lying now heck i didn’t have my own xbox live account until odst and even than i played online halo 2 matches on my older cousin’s account when he let me

Nope button combos were unintended but kept due to popular demand. Super jumps were removed because they could completely ruin and seriously elongate games which was off putting for players.

Doesn’t mean it wasn’t broken and HLG was very popular lots of players abused it in Team Doubles. I found it hilarious but Halo 3 was shipped with so many issues. Broken equipment, poorly designed levels (shield doors) and exploitable map design. Not to mention registration issues, host booting, lag switching, and hackers. It’s amazing how people forget that when claiming that Bungie or any other company would do a better job with Infinite. Plenty of them probably would and plenty wouldn’t.

I’m not saying Infinite is the better game, I love Halo 3. But the comparison makes me laugh because they’re closer in issues and content than others seem to think.

We were discussing Halo 3 launch playlists.

Ah yes the lack of flood makes no sense when we are on the ring thats important to people who are fans of the flood and with 343 bringing back the flood while also confirming cortana being infected with the logic plague only for nothing with the flood to hapoen and AGAIN introduce a new faction of enemies

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